Kanojo ni Uwaki Sareteita Ore ga, Koakuma na Kouhai ni Natsukareteimasu - Ch. 31

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honestly, just because she can admit she likes someone doesn't automatically mean she should get Yuuta back. After all, it was her inability to voice her concerns to her boyfriend that started this whole mess.
They should get closure from one another and then go their separate ways. Let Yuuta figure out his relationship with Ayaka, tell Natsuki to screw off every time she enters his field of vision, and then learn how to reciprocate Miyu's attention and affections because - even if she's a "manic pixie girl stalker", she's also weirdly the healthiest one of the bunch for Yuuta as far as a potential relationship goes (not a high bar to clear, but clear it she has).

And Reina will hopefully learn a lesson from all this in being more communicative in the future when she finds someone else.
I don't they think should get back together. It would just be the most interesting outcome. It would be the one with the most work and effort put behind it. Because its ether that or a 4 year slam dunk waiting to happen or a free waifu that literally came out of nowhere at your lowest moment.

No one in this story is healthy. Yuuta is indecisive, insecure, and naive. Ayaka, tries too hard to please other people while not really thinking about how they feel. And Miyu stated this story by cheating on her boyfriend in a way that's way worse than what Reina did. Yes, he cheated first but she wanted to involve a stranger to help get back at him like it was normal. And Reina is just Yuuta but a girl.

I cut out a lot of my original comment but this story can't start off by breaking up with hand holding but have its MC be so dense that he can't tell if he's having an intimate encounter with the opposite sex or not. "Ayaka is just testing me. Sleeping in the same bed with Miyu doesn't mean anything. But god forbid my girlfriend is holding hands with another guy, she's probably fucking him" I get it, he doesn't know what Reina was feeling or thinking, but I do, and she's now telling him. There's no, "hoping that she's leaned a lesson" because she has.

And again, I don't think anyoen should be in a relationship by the end of this story, beasuse this "complex" story is just elementary school nonseense.
 
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As far as I can remember about this manga, I think it was pretty much a misunderstanding due to not being open with each other/lack of communication and due to the guy's complacency resulting to the girl to act and think like a bitch.
The guy doesn't want to distance himself from his best friend when he's already committed, I find it plainly stupid. Should be a no-brainer tbh. Then the girl, wtf, just tell your stupid bf about your fucking insecurities and him being complacent about his situation. Both pathetic. A huge W for both, they just need to stay single forever. I just hope the best girl, Ayaka ❤️ won't end up with her loser best friend.
And to glasses-kun, fuck you. A fucking seducer, acting like he's any better than a fucking cheater.
 
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I mean, if all it took is this one misunderstanding for Reina to stop using her common sense to just ask her boyfriend about it (that she knew want to make her happy from the beginning), and instead went ahead to try and "become a bestfriend with someone I knew have a thing with me" to the point of interlocking finger with him (and who knows what happens behind the scene)..

Yeah it doesn't help your case at all. You just explained how short-sighted and easily influenced you are. It also shows that you cannot be trusted nor trust other. This is just one problem they encounter together as a couple, and she does this extreme thing over a misunderstanding. Who knows what will happen if they have another fight?

And that Reina "best friend" glasses girl can just shut up. Who need enemy when you have friend like her. 🤦‍♂️
 
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Her sense of inferiority actually came more from her friend, Natsuki. That's why I dislike her so much; she said all sorts of things to both of them, but acted like it was their problem to resolve... Like, she would talk trash and then act as if she had done nothing wrong, leaving them to sort it out. Most of what she said in the manga was downplayed. She was the one who had many negative 'thoughts' about Yuuta and Ayaka's relationship, even more than the younger student. But hey... It's still as bad as I remember. I really hate how things get worse whenever we see the beginning of their relationship and how happy she and Yuuta were together. I don't remember in the novel that she interlocked fingers with the guy, which is even worse than just holding hands, as you only do that with your boyfriend and so on, so it's even more symbolic.

Now I need my dose of wholesomeness after this... Thank God chapter 35 of 'My Bias Gets On The Last Train' was released today.
I agree. Natsuki is definitely a problem. She’s extremely judgmental for no reason, and somehow no one’s checking her for it. It honestly makes me wonder—was she jealous of Reina’s relationship with Yuuta? Because why else would you speak so harshly about someone you’ve never even met?

She called him a cheater before ever seeing him in person. And when she finally does meet him, she immediately starts judging his friendship with Ayaka. That’s weird. You barely know me, and you’re already forming opinions about who I spend time with?

That kind of mindset doesn’t just come out of nowhere. It screams D1 hater energy. Just my opinion.
 
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you're not entirely wrong. Yeah, 90% of people would probably lose it if their girlfriend had a male best friend. But here's the thing—if that guy was already part of the picture before you came along, and then you suddenly start feeling uncomfortable about how close they are, isn't that kind of on you for not communicating it from the jump?

That's exactly where Reina dropped the ball. She never expressed how insecure she felt about Yuuta and Ayaka's bond. She expected Yuuta to open up to her, but never gave him the same in return. She wanted emotional honesty but couldn’t offer it herself.

So for you to overlook that dynamic entirely? That’s wild to me.
not gonna type everything up again, but like I said in reality it's not that easy to express these types of insecurities to your so, cause it sounds like you're giving them an ultimatum

this doesn't excuse her doing what she did, and the relationship is already doomed at that point

the mc is an oblivious moron and reina is a dumbass who instead of breaking up chose to do what she did
 
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not gonna type everything up again, but like I said in reality it's not that easy to express these types of insecurities to your so, cause it sounds like you're giving them an ultimatum

this doesn't excuse her doing what she did, and the relationship is already doomed at that point

the mc is an oblivious moron and reina is a dumbass who instead of breaking up chose to do what she did
You don't have to type everything again. You're failing to understand how ridiculous you sound. You're saying it's not easy to talk about insecurities, yet she expected him to open up about his. If she's not willing to come to him when something's bothering her, why would she expect him to do the same? Instead of actually talking to him, she let that jealousy sit and fester until she started seeking emotional validation from someone else.

Trying to throw blame on Yuuta for not knowing she had a problem is ridiculous. He came to her first and asked if texting a female friend would be an issue. She said no. So in his mind, he already got her input. If she had a problem later, it was on her to speak up and correct it. The fault lies with her, not with Yuuta. If you want to say Yuuta could’ve been more observant, fine. But calling him a moron for not noticing a problem she was actively hiding is absurd.
 
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I wouldn't immediately go into calling people incels territory, but it's pretty obvious people here are using the fact that they know the mc wasn't interested in ayaka like that to dismiss the fact that them constantly hanging out is problematic for his relationship

people are talking about communication but if you've ever been in an actual relationship(not marriage or an extremely long term relationship) you'd know it's incredibly difficult to bring this shit up with your so, you're essentially telling them that they have to tone down that friendship which from their perspective there's nothing wrong with

but as we already know ayaka was obviously interested in him, so it's not like the worries are unfounded, but hey, good drama I guess

I've also read the spoilers and if they're right
reina immediately rejects the dude so this is as far as the cheating goes, so I guess that also informs my opinion on it a bit
and that's is the true incels thinking. if you can't ask your GF to tone down their friendship with a man, it's either you know you're exaggerating or you're an incels who are afraid of rejection
 
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ahaha I'm getting called an incel now, by people who've obviously never been in an actual relationship

gl fellas you really, really need it
 
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Instead of having open discussion about her misgivings, she insulted him, gave him the could shoulder, then trialed cheating on him. Now she wants to hit Ctrl+Z on her colossal woman moment as he's moving on.

Fuck right off.
 
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As someone who has experienced what reina went through to some extent i kind of get where she is coming from and understand what might have led to her doing what she did. Doesnt mean shes faultless but I can understand her reasoning. A lot of people seem to forget that while Reina did originally give the okay her talking with natuski also didnt help things either making her doubt and over think things which is common even in real life. Yuuta is also a bit at fault because instead of going to Reina for his troubles he went to Ayaka and Reina didnt know about until she got glimpses of that text on his phone. (Could she have asked about it? Sure but sometimes relationships dont work like that sometimes you get blinded and you dont realize it until after a lot of self reflection)

I think the fact a lot of people are yelling to the heavens that holding someone's hand for what seems like 5 seconds is an act of absolute betrayal is kinda funny though.
 
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I know where this is going, the author is going to set it up so she and her dumbass of a friend are forgiven and the one at fault is going to be MC, who will probably apologize, but in reality, the way this is written is just making her seem ever worse. HE FUCKING ASKED HER IF SHE HAD A PROBLEM WITH HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS FEMALE FRIEND. Also, it's not just "walking side by side with a friend" that you were trying to emulate. You were trying to walk side by side with a male friend while HOLDING HANDS LIKE LOVERS to see what it would feel like. Trust was broken, that is the whole point of this. Her holding hands with another guy is not the problem, the problem is that she thought about seeing another guy in a romantic way while she was still in a relationship.
Also, HER CHILDHOOD FRIEND is nothing like Ayaka. Ayaka made damn sure she never interfered in MC's relationship. She didn't fill his head with doubts, nor did she try to manipulate him into acting in a particular way. Ayaka didn't go out of her way to be a bitch towards Reina and act passive aggressive towards her. Don't even try to compare Natsuki to Ayaka...it doesn't help that Natsuki seems to be jealous as hell of Ayaka, so her motivations as suspicious to begin with.
Remember "In society people consider that a date, therefore, you SHOULD be feeling jealous." Way to manipulate and dictate the way a person should feel, regardless of how much they trust their partner WHO IS NOT HIDING ANYTHING from them.
 
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I looked at the web novel superficially, and damn, people on either sides of the Reina issue are not gonna like the upcoming arc.

There are prior comments here with spoiler tags for anyone curious, just scroll back a bit.

There is 1 spoiler I don't see anyone mention so I will:
Natsuki does not face any real consequences, at least not in the web novel version unless I missed it.
 
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As someone who has experienced what reina went through to some extent i kind of get where she is coming from and understand what might have led to her doing what she did. Doesnt mean shes faultless but I can understand her reasoning. A lot of people seem to forget that while Reina did originally give the okay her talking with natuski also didnt help things either making her doubt and over think things which is common even in real life. Yuuta is also a bit at fault because instead of going to Reina for his troubles he went to Ayaka and Reina didnt know about until she got glimpses of that text on his phone. (Could she have asked about it? Sure but sometimes relationships dont work like that sometimes you get blinded and you dont realize it until after a lot of self reflection)

I think the fact a lot of people are yelling to the heavens that holding someone's hand for what seems like 5 seconds is an act of absolute betrayal is kinda funny though.
What? Why? If you know a person who can help you out with a problem, but the problem itself is not that big a deal (not life threatening I mean), why would you involve and worry those around you?
The betrayal is NOT the hand holding, IT'S HER THOUGHTS. She thought about the handholding as a test, she KNEW that holding hands like lovers was crossing the line, and she still did it to see what it would feel like. Also, MC walks side by side with Ayaka, but they don't show any sings of body contact the way lovers do, so her Reina's point was moot from the very beginning. She should try kissing the guy next to see if she feels anything from it. Next, just let him use the tip, maybe that is not cheating either?
 
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So we've been gaslit for THIRTY chapters over how many months, only for this to be a "I'm jelly and insecure cuz he has a beautiful friend."

I feel like Goose - in a a flat spin headed out to sea - unable to reach for the black and yellow striped handles and for some reason have completely forgotten about the alternate between my legs.

Dang, this is the stupidest plot I've read so far, and I thought I had seen most of them.
 
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I suppose I'm thinking about my future now. I would not want my GF to have a male friend whom she relied on rather than me. That's going to make me very insecure and feel betrayed. Reina was right to feel betrayed, I don't think the author is gaslighting. My larger issue is why Reija started dating her junior. His actions are manipulative. He is not arguing why he would make a good boyfriend, only that he's not as bad as Yuuta. I'm surprised she feel for his underhanded moves even in her troubled state. Perhaps he is the real villian of this story, acting like he knows much more than he actually does in order to manipulate a vulnerable young lady.
Ah, but you see, MC ASKED if she had a problem with it, and she said no. She said that he should value his friends and there was no problem with the way he was acting. I'm sure you would have a problem if your GF had a BFF who was male, but I'm sure you would actually let her know, right? Reina had NO reason to feel betrayed, because MC kept everything out in the open and actually asked for her feedback on how he was acting. As for keeping problems to himself and relying on Ayaka instead? Ever heard of getting the right person to fix a problem? Why bother and worry those around you if you know they can't really help you out with certain things? MC's problem was not that grave that he needed to tell all his loved ones about it, and him thanking Ayaka for her help doesn't mean he thinks Reina or any of his acquaintances are useless or unreliable.
 
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What? Why? If you know a person who can help you out with a problem, but the problem itself is not that big a deal (not life threatening I mean), why would you involve and worry those around you?
The betrayal is NOT the hand holding, IT'S HER THOUGHTS. She thought about the handholding as a test, she KNEW that holding hands like lovers was crossing the line, and she still did it to see what it would feel like. Also, MC walks side by side with Ayaka, but they don't show any sings of body contact the way lovers do, so her Reina's point was moot from the very beginning. She should try kissing the guy next to see if she feels anything from it. Next, just let him use the tip, maybe that is not cheating either?
Throughout the story Ayaka was Yuuta's crutch to solve problems and they were insanely close. I can definitely understand someone who was okay with it at first but then started to catch doubts. Reina should have just bit the bullet and asked what was troubling him but she didn't and that was where she messed up because at some point seeing the message from Ayaka made her overthink and doubt and reach a breaking point. If Yuuta was having troubles he honestly should have gone to his girlfriend first why did he go to Ayaka in the first place? As you said yourself if it's not a big deal why not ask Reina?

Yes her thoughts which came from a place of self doubt and wondering if she can also understand Yuuta in how he sees himself with ayaka. Even at the start she didn't want to go through with it but as the chapter progressed her self doubts began to win and she made a bad decision which seems didn't go much farther than handholding before it ended anyway. Here is the thing reina doesn't see any body contact with Yuuta but we as the readers did. Ayaka was clearly insanely close to him that a lot of people could misunderstand its a point that's been said multiple times throughout the story. So what if they don't show any kind of "lovers" contact? Contact is contact and for some people any kind of contact can be too much considering some people even think handholding is too much.
And throwing a hyperbole of reina moving on to actually cheating instead of having a moment of self doubt is laughable.

And this is coming from someone who experienced both sides of this kind of conflict.
 
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Moral of the story, don’t listen to your friend who only knows your side of the story, neither listen to the dude who wants to get in your pants. I get she was jealous about Ayaka, but she didn’t even know her nor her feelings for mc. She perfectly knew that the dude she « experimented cheating » with has feelings for her. She is in the wrong here. Mc had his fault too, but she is way worse. From mc’s viewpoint, Ayaka was a friend he spend time with. Reina was his gf. The dude she went on a date with confessed to her, she went with him. She cheated, while mc didn’t. End of the story. That Natsuki bitch, instead of throwing sharp shit to mc, should have apologized to Reina for the wrong advices she gave to her.
Thanks for the translation
she's too stuck up to realize that the advices weren't good
 
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Most of the time, keep your couple's problems between yourselves(maybe it's fine to seek advices from very trusted people but don't do it a lot unless there's violence and crime involved) and communicate well between each other
 
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