Taida na Akujoku Kizoku ni Tensei shita Ore, Scenario wo Bukkowashitara Kikakugai no Maryoku de Saikyou ni Natta - Vol. 2 Ch. 9 - Scout

[Psychronia]

Losing her best friend and then...that.

Carta doesn't deserve this, man.

 

[ziel_demon]

lmao, poor Carta

 

[timcal2136]

Will she NTR Allen and join Weiss’s harem?
Although there are 2 yanderes in the way!

Carta wasn’t in Allen’s harem in the original storyline, she was expelled early

 

[whermit]

Seems like being expelled doesnt sound so bad rn, knowing two psychos will absolutely obliterate ur ass if u make one wrong step

 

[Heavenstar]

How the hell does the point system work? They make it seem like some battles take away more points than others? Some people even end up in the lower double digits, just short of getting expelled. And only 10 people so far have been expelled? I know, the author just wrote it this way to up the stakes, but logically it just doesn't really make sense. You'd think there would be a lot more students dropping out, is everyone just ganging up on the same student until all his points are gone? Is that what's happening? Can you refuse a duel? Can you make a group of friends and just pass the points around so nobody is eve disqualified? Even the story's original MC has gotten some of his classmates expelled.

The WN elaborated it layer on but early on it is a bit wonky. But it depends on how you perform in the various exams. Fights and Written Tests.

In fights winning earns you points and defeat makes you lose them and depending on how badly you lose, you lose more points.

Those getting expelled are the ones getting flattened not just losing and those throwing in the towel in fights. They expect students to be powerful or at least have a "Never Say Die Attitude" if they are weak.

There are duels and they do lead to a loss of points for losses and turning them down is possible but it will be result as being seen as weak by your fellow Students.

And lastly, your points are your own and passing them around is impossible.

 

[Elcief_SSN]

Gahaha getting expelled now is the least of her worries. Poor carta

 

[Chaos47]

The WN elaborated it layer on but early on it is a bit wonky. But it depends on how you perform in the various exams. Fights and Written Tests.

In fights winning earns you points and defeat makes you lose them and depending on how badly you lose, you lose more points.

Those getting expelled are the ones getting flattened not just losing and those throwing in the towel in fights. They expect students to be powerful or at least have a "Never Say Die Attitude" if they are weak.

There are duels and they do lead to a loss of points for losses and turning them down is possible but it will be result as being seen as weak by your fellow Students.

And lastly, your points are your own and passing them around is impossible.

I didn't mean passing points in a literal way. I meant, mock battles which facilitates them keeping their points stable enough to not get expelled.

 

[pushpakg]

Too much harem gets boring let's just hope it stays between 2 yanderes

 

[sdrj77]

Weiss was so deep in his monologue, a meteor could have crashed into the school and he wouldn't have noticed.

 

[Heavenstar]

I didn't mean passing points in a literal way. I meant, mock battles which facilitates them keeping their points stable enough to not get expelled.

They can theoretically do that but there 3 problems.

1.) The school system will force them into situations where they have to factor their own well being over everthing else. These exams happen pretty often and are usually battle royales where they are stuck with people like Weiss who want to get it all.

2.) There are actual rewards if you do well by having a lot of points(Better dorm rooms, Access to better food, Having a chance to meet the Royal Family, Having access to treasures found by A-rank Adventurers). Weiss room later on is basically a five star hotel room where he can have someone get him imported fruits.

3.) As time goes on the all the "Weak" and "Inept" students will be gone and the only ones left will be Bloodythirsty Go Getters like Weiss, Cynthia and Allen which execerbates the first 2 problems. Weiss even notes later on how the Mobs students are eager to bring him down.

The School is a Slytherin student's dream school. A place where Power and Ambition reign supreme.

 

[Chaos47]

They can theoretically do that but there 3 problems.

1.) The school system will force them into situations where they have to factor their own well being over everthing else. These exams happen pretty often and are usually battle royales where they are stuck with people like Weiss who want to get it all.

2.) There are actual rewards if you do well by having a lot of points(Better dorm rooms, Access to better food, Having a chance to meet the Royal Family, Having access to treasures found by A-rank Adventurers). Weiss room later on is basically a five star hotel room where he can have someone get him imported fruits.

3.) As time goes on the all the "Weak" and "Inept" students will be gone and the only ones left will be Bloodythirsty Go Getters like Weiss, Cynthia and Allen which execerbates the first 2 problems. Weiss even notes later on how the Mobs students are eager to bring him down.

The School is a Slytherin student's dream school. A place where Power and Ambition reign supreme.

The only problem is the fact everyone loses points at a different rate. How do you keep an uber powerful character like Weiss or Hero from straight out getting ALL of your points, even if you are in the top ranks? At some point, the weak will be culled right? So what? Will the point system go away when we have our stable cast of super hero characters? Do they not get expelled if they lose to Weiss?

 

[Heavenstar]

The only problem is the fact everyone loses points at a different rate. How do you keep an uber powerful character like Weiss or Hero from straight out getting ALL of your points, even if you are in the top ranks? At some point, the weak will be culled right? So what? Will the point system go away when we have our stable cast of super hero characters? Do they not get expelled if they lose to Weiss?

Nope the points system is a pillar of the school for all 3 years.

As time goes on, expulsions will become less and less common since remaining students, even the mobs can soak in losses from Weiss since they have got plenty points to stay in school.

And you overestimate Weiss or Allen. They arent so strong that they can overrun everyone and its not like the side characters and even the mobs are slouches either they are ALL getting stronger.

You can also gain points from Written Tests and other Extra Curricular Activities.

Let me give you a bit of a spoiler regarding the powerscaling.

Spoiler

There was actually a point in time where the Hero's Childhoos Friend Sheryl was considered to be stronger than Allen and even Weiss due to her learning insane Mana Control and another time Duke due to his Physical Prowess?

Also when Weiss came in 1k students enrolled(This is weirdly the case for isekais with Academies) so there are still a crap ton of students.

When Milk graduated, she graduated alongside 50 others. and the current 2nd and 3rd years all have students way stronger than Weiss and the number of students there is still abundant.

 

[TheOne9387]

Comedy A+ as usual

 

[Chaos47]

And you overestimate Weiss or Allen. They arent so strong that they can overrun everyone and its not like the side characters and even the mobs are slouches either they are ALL getting stronger.

The hell I am. When 70% of the expulsions have been caused by Weiss alone, I don't think there is room for overestimation. We know of at least one person being expelled by Allan. It seems anyone who fights Weiss (who happens to hold the largest pool of points in the class FYI) seems to be guaranteed a massive point loss. The system makes no sense whatsoever, and the author would be dammed if they actually tried to spend some time to flesh it out and explain it in details, because they know is a crap system made to generate false stakes and drama, even if the rules are unclear.

 

[Heavenstar]

When 70% of the expulsions have been caused by Weiss alone, I don't think there is room for overestimation. We know of at least one person being expelled by Allan.

I guess I was speaking from a place where I read the WN and LN and at that point the gap between Weiss and the cast has narrowed considerably.

The system makes no sense whatsoever

I won't argue with you too much here since he basically took the points system from World Trigger and slapped it on here.

the author would be dammed if they actually tried to spend some time to flesh it out and explain it in details,

I agree with you here too but there is a funny reason behind it.

Fun Fact: This is mostly because the author Kikuchi-sensei never anticipated the Web Novel would become popular. He just wanted to write a powertrip isekai where Weiss gets all the girls and destroys everyone(In Fact, this was the first Villain series he ever worked on and the only reason why he did this was because Villain stories were a fad at the time).

It was only when, the story began to trend did he decide to take this story a bit more seriously.

An example and a bit of spoiler, but there is still one more illogical development you will need to go through before reaching that point but if you do, you will reach the point of the story where everything begins to make sense and try to rectify the mistake.

made to generate false stakes and drama, even if the rules are unclear.

Ok this is the part where I totally disagree. Until this point, we never had a grasp of what the stakes are.

It was made clear that Weiss reincarnated in a super agressive battle game full of fights(The Web Novel emphasized that fact) and which includes having a traditional final showdown with the Demon King.

Fighting was the cornerstone of that world but the rules of how it goes and how Weiss will interact with it are not yet mad clear until now.

The moment Weiss decided to enroll into the academy is the moment he decided to experience all those events which means having to be the strongest.

 

[ConvenientUsername]

Don’t think there’s any ntr to happen.
As explained by Weiss, Carta is just one of those plot-death character, an easy way for the scenario writer to justify how her best friend got development/growth.

They try so hard to break her they succeed
It's more yandere

 

[erintesden]

Don’t think there’s any ntr to happen.
As explained by Weiss, Carta is just one of those plot-death character, an easy way for the scenario writer to justify how her best friend got development/growth.

Maybe the guy wasnt referring to Carta but the other girl? Cant remember her name, but the one glaring at Weiss in this or the previous chapter. She seems to be a close friend of Allen and likely one of his love interests in the original story

 

[rluka]

Maybe the guy wasnt referring to Carta but the other girl? Cant remember her name, but the one glaring at Weiss in this or the previous chapter. She seems to be a close friend of Allen and likely one of his love interests in the original story

Aah... that girl.
iirc, one of the WN spoilers in earlier chapter’s comment mentioned interesting thing about her in the original.

 

[Chaos47]

Ok this is the part where I totally disagree. Until this point, we never had a grasp of what the stakes are.

It was made clear that Weiss reincarnated in a super agressive battle game full of fights(The Web Novel emphasized that fact) and which includes having a traditional final showdown with the Demon King.

Fighting was the cornerstone of that world but the rules of how it goes and how Weiss will interact with it are not yet mad clear until now.

The moment Weiss decided to enroll into the academy is the moment he decided to experience all those events which means having to be the strongest.

Oh, I was not referring to stakes for the MC and crew, I meant things like current arc, where third girl is down to lower double digits and now needs MC to come and save her. I gotta admit, she is the only reason why I'm having trouble understanding the point system. How the hell do you get to such a low score without getting expelled lol? In any case, I'm sure the point system will eventually take a back seat and once the main cast is secured, they'll move on to other problems, so it's not really as big a deal as I'm making it out to be, just nit picking. Thanks for the responses though.

 

[gooberthefish]

spare her, girls

why spare when you can spread