Tensei Oujo to Tensai Reijou no Mahou Kakumei - Ch. 46

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all this arc does is admit and prove that no one in Anis life actual respects her as a person.
the entire argument boils down to:

"we, the people who claim to care and love you genuinely believe you're too incompetent and selfish to do the thing we're been trying to force on you, youre whole life bc youre technically considered disabled in our society and discriminated against bc of it, so instead of helping and supporting you, we're gonna punish you by not even letting you try and get someone competent and not disabled to do it instead."

"also we wont do anything about the ppl who are the actual problem bc putting you in your place is more important. you have no say in this btw lol"

like bro, this conflict is so meaningless. never read plot so filler before.
 
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Yes, and? In their situation better be a couple of "enlightened tyrants" that strive for a better world, while getting rid of stuck-ass nobles, than having to make one of the two sad just to stick with their shitty rules
Surely the nobles who have a seizable control of the country will stay still while the enlighten couple gets rid of them and by no means will throw them into a conflict, also other kingdoms taking the chance to do their own thing
 
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I'm dropping this, everytime I read it feels like my heart is aching
For me fights without options to win, and the result being a loss no matter how you look, is just depressing
 
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all this arc does is admit and prove that no one in Anis life actual respects her as a person.
the entire argument boils down to:

"we, the people who claim to care and love you genuinely believe you're too incompetent and selfish to do the thing we're been trying to force on you, youre whole life bc youre technically considered disabled in our society and discriminated against bc of it, so instead of helping and supporting you, we're gonna punish you by not even letting you try and get someone competent and not disabled to do it instead."

"also we wont do anything about the ppl who are the actual problem bc putting you in your place is more important. you have no say in this btw lol"

like bro, this conflict is so meaningless. never read plot so filler before.
thats why certain sis-con was right
 
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Women fight sure are scary ....

They can perfectly laughing and then goes all rage within sec later

It's not that unusual ...for manga or anime adaption bring extra part that original creator didn't do it ....

Like when you watch anime ver 86 ...most of 86 death was not written ...just somehow they all alrdy dead...but anime production decide to show on how most of them dead
I love the extra dose of emotional damage too, thanks. 86 is fantastic.
 
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I didn't like this arc neither in anime nor here, Anis was treated so bad :c
 
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Well, I'm liking it. And the manga's changes to the fight venue.

"because the two of them - plus Ms. Immortal and their other allies - could personally demolish the entire system of government under which their deeply problematic society operates."

There's a huge difference between being the most powerful people in the country, and being powerful enough to take on the whole country by yourselves. And it seems unlikely that Lumi would join them in such an endeavor.
 
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all this arc does is admit and prove that no one in Anis life actual respects her as a person.
the entire argument boils down to:

"we, the people who claim to care and love you genuinely believe you're too incompetent and selfish to do the thing we're been trying to force on you, youre whole life bc youre technically considered disabled in our society and discriminated against bc of it, so instead of helping and supporting you, we're gonna punish you by not even letting you try and get someone competent and not disabled to do it instead."

"also we wont do anything about the ppl who are the actual problem bc putting you in your place is more important. you have no say in this btw lol"

like bro, this conflict is so meaningless. never read plot so filler before.

there may be some nuance that you've left out for the sake of brevity,
But I think this entirely encapsulates why I have such a problem with this arc, and how it turned out in the anime.

It felt so...pointless, and as you said, effectively cruel to Anis in denying her agency. The fact that the girl she loves, the ONLY ONE who ostensibly should have had her back, wanted to give up her humanity just to "protect" (?????) Anis from the nobility who would've scoffed at her taking the throne, and acting like Anis being mad at her was her being unreasonable??

Real talk - if I were Anis, I would have been so furious at the prospect of the person I cared about most being so dismissive of my wishes, that I'd have given up on the kingship, said "alright, peace then", and just left everyone behind and fucked off to another nation as a nameless refugee or something.
Fuck the king & queen, let Euphie become an immortal, amoral spirit ruler for eternity, to hell with the nobility and everyone else, and just go make magic lamps and horseless carriages for a rival kingdom and profit for the rest of my natural life.

Like.....as you said, literally no one is actually sticking up for her at this point, and are instead coddling her and whilst simultaneously putting her up on a pedestal. And even in the face of certain defeat to Euphie she still somehow gonads-up and stands on principle in the face of inevitability.

Maddening.
 
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there may be some nuance that you've left out for the sake of brevity,
But I think this entirely encapsulates why I have such a problem with this arc, and how it turned out in the anime.

It felt so...pointless, and as you said, effectively cruel to Anis in denying her agency. The fact that the girl she loves, the ONLY ONE who ostensibly should have had her back, wanted to give up her humanity just to "protect" (?????) Anis from the nobility who would've scoffed at her taking the throne, and acting like Anis being mad at her was her being unreasonable??

Real talk - if I were Anis, I would have been so furious at the prospect of the person I cared about most being so dismissive of my wishes, that I'd have given up on the kingship, said "alright, peace then", and just left everyone behind and fucked off to another nation as a nameless refugee or something.
Fuck the king & queen, let Euphie become an immortal, amoral spirit ruler for eternity, to hell with the nobility and everyone else, and just go make magic lamps and horseless carriages for a rival kingdom and profit for the rest of my natural life.

Like.....as you said, literally no one is actually sticking up for her at this point, and are instead coddling her and whilst simultaneously putting her up on a pedestal. And even in the face of certain defeat to Euphie she still somehow gonads-up and stands on principle in the face of inevitability.

Maddening.
Yeah this has been fucking infuriating to read. Im fully in on sunk cost at this point but my god what a contrived waste of my time this has been.
They treat anis as completely incapable of doing anything herself. Like all this time what she was able to accomplish had no merit. Nobody cares about what anis genuinely thinks or wants and they one sidedly push their own beliefs on her from start to finish of this story. From the spoilers i see in this thread it seems one more ass pull is coming to truly seal anis' fate as utterly disregarded on all fronts by all parties.
I think the funniest thing she could do is lose the duel and then immediately kill herself in retaliation.
 
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I think the funniest thing she could do is lose the duel and then immediately kill herself in retaliation.
Who knows, maybe she'd get punted into another world where she can try again with a new family who might not be such sanctimonious shitbags.
I will say that at least Anis would be less petty than me in her situation. I'd try to set it up so Euphie ended up killing me during the duel just to potentially guilt her with that knowledge for the rest of her eternal existence out of spite for all the horseshit being foisted upon Anis all this time.
 
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I don't know how she would get there since she's not in the group, but I FEEL like at any moment Tilly is just going to BAMFP in there like Nightcrawler and yell at them saying, "YOU DAMN IDIOTS! IF YOU TWO JUST MARRY EACH OTHER, YOU BOTH GET WHAT YOU WANT AND NO ONE HAS TO SACRIFICE ANYTHING!" Then que the mass head slap meme, lmao!
 
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Man, some different takes on this.

Maybe I'm influenced by the anime version, but what I remember is Anis literally throwing up at the stress and the noble expectations she needs to marry a man and pop out adequate heirs. You wanna talk about lack of respect? Try all the nobles she'd have to work with as monarch. And we know this is not a particularly strong monarchy, given what the previous generation had to go through. "I'm the queen" doesn't get her far by itself.

Euphie is trying to keep the woman she loves from self-destructing.
 
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Man, some different takes on this.

Maybe I'm influenced by the anime version, but what I remember is Anis literally throwing up at the stress and the noble expectations she needs to marry a man and pop out adequate heirs. You wanna talk about lack of respect? Try all the nobles she'd have to work with as monarch. And we know this is not a particularly strong monarchy, given what the previous generation had to go through. "I'm the queen" doesn't get her far by itself.

Euphie is trying to keep the woman she loves from self-destructing.
You make a good point.
But to do that, Euphie has to give up her humanity via Spirit Contract.

Sure, Anis may find some path to immortality in the interim. But in the extremely likely possibility she doesn't (because, c'mon, like that's just something one does)?

Then Euphie gets to watch the woman she loves more than anything in the world grow old, wither, die, and then forget she ever existed because she'd lose all attachment to the mortal world by virtue of living for forever. And in the meantime Anis gets to exist knowing that's going to happen, while being denied agency over her life and bloodright by the one person who was supposed to absolutely have her back in all of this.

It's like - for someone who's supposed to be a genius, Euphie's really not thinking this through.
 
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You make a good point.
But to do that, Euphie has to give up her humanity via Spirit Contract.

Sure, Anis may find some path to immortality in the interim. But in the extremely likely possibility she doesn't (because, c'mon, like that's just something one does)?

Then Euphie gets to watch the woman she loves more than anything in the world grow old, wither, die, and then forget she ever existed because she'd lose all attachment to the mortal world by virtue of living for forever. And in the meantime Anis gets to exist knowing that's going to happen, while being denied agency over her life and bloodright by the one person who was supposed to absolutely have her back in all of this.

It's like - for someone who's supposed to be a genius, Euphie's really not thinking this through.
This is the entire point of the conflict. Both of them are willing to give up a part of themselves permanently in order to become the king and absolutely don't want to see the other person give up a part of themselves. Anis would give up basically her entire self, she would inflict an ego death upon herself just to be able to do her job as a royal, and Euphie would give up her humanity and eventually all her connections to the world.
Anis would probably have accepted Euphie becoming king instead of her after the talk with Tilly, but she absolutely can't accept Euphie giving up her humanity for that and Euphie can't accept Anis giving up her mind.

Pretty much any other solution I have seen in the comments here wouldn't be acceptable either.
  • They can't get married and rule together, as the society wouldn't accept a ruling couple that has (at least from their perspective) no chance of having an heir.
  • They can not run away from the kingdom because they care about the people of the kingdom.
  • They can't defeat/remove the nobility, because they a) don't have the political power to do that, b) aren't strong enough to defeat the entire nobility on their own and c) starting a revolution/civil war would be a terrible move, they wouldn't want to put the people in danger, the nobility with the ability to use magic can probably defeat the entirety of the kingdom's commoners, so it wouldn't work, and even if they succeeded they would end up defenceless against all neighbouring kingdoms.
  • Anis killing herself/purposefully getting killed by Euphie out of pettieness is not in character, she wouldn't want Euphie to live with the guilt.



I do however wonder why Euphie didn't use her instant win card, that would force Anis to not be eligible for the throne? The king has stated previously that a monster taking the throne would be absolutely unacceptable, so if Euphie revealed to the king that Anis is turning into a dragon and the process likely can't be stopped (the dragons curse(?)), the king would have no choice but to classify Anis as incapable of being king. Maybe Euphie thinks that it would be too cruel to Anis?
 
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Yes, and? In their situation better be a couple of "enlightened tyrants" that strive for a better world, while getting rid of stuck-ass nobles, than having to make one of the two sad just to stick with their shitty rules
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