Daredemo Dakeru Kimi ga Suki - Ch. 91 - I Love Boobs

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I cannot wait to see how this explodes in Gotou's face.

Also what the fuck is going on with him and Akito? Don't just try to change the subject with big tiddies, Takeda!

Wow, 10/10 masterful writing with "do you like boobs?, "I love boobs", "is it enough just to have my boobs". Very thought provoking stuff /s.
Finally, they sent a poet.
 
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so canonically, even if he didnt meet agawa he would still score?
a megabazoonka childhood (older) Friends even
 
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He was doing fine before the rewrite. After that, the story clearly stopped being his priority and now the storyline is being written by his second head, sigh.
He also said he argued and pressed his editor and publication in order to retcon the story. Which means he, at the very least, was following a direction discussed internally at that point. Current direction is all him and we can see where it lead.
 
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Pedophilia... Well, it was bad enough when it was implied that Agawa slept with her friend's dad, but this is even worse because that's his teacher...
 
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Pedophilia... Well, it was bad enough when it was implied that Agawa slept with her friend's dad, but this is even worse because that's his teacher...
The is a special chapter 36 that shows agawa taking it were the sun don't shine with the teacher.
 
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Sorry Agawa I thought you were the weird one, clearly this mfs is on another level
 
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Pedophilia... Well, it was bad enough when it was implied that Agawa slept with her friend's dad, but this is even worse because that's his teacher...
When was it implied that Agawa slept with her friend's dad? I must've missed this.
 
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At this point, I just hope it doesn't end like School day for ours Gotou thg.
 
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I've been complaining about how dumb and lazy this story is for years, but this chapter was truly a new low in terms of writing.

When I see positive comments, I honestly have to wonder which of the following applies:

1. People are being sarcastic
2. People have accepted this for what it is and are just fine with getting anything positive out of it at all
3. There are somehow legitimately people enjoying this

And honestly I can't tell which applies in most cases. I hope not the third, but. Well. Somehow this absolute trash fire is still apparently selling well. So surely those people do exist, even though I can't understand how their brains work.
 
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I've been complaining about how dumb and lazy this story is for years, but this chapter was truly a new low in terms of writing.

When I see positive comments, I honestly have to wonder which of the following applies:

1. People are being sarcastic
2. People have accepted this for what it is and are just fine with getting anything positive out of it at all
3. There are somehow legitimately people enjoying this

And honestly I can't tell which applies in most cases. I hope not the third, but. Well. Somehow this absolute trash fire is still apparently selling well. So surely those people do exist, even though I can't understand how their brains work.
I agree with you on how bad the writing is for the most recent 3 chapters, but I personally disagree that this story is dumb and lazy. Smut is populated with dumb and lazy works, and there's a reason why this manga has managed to outshine and succeed many of them, and not because of a lack of effort on the mangaka's part imo.

I'm #3, in that I genuinely enjoy this manga for what it is. I appreciate how unique this work is compared to other erotic seinen manga out there. I've read a lot of manga in all sorts of genres/demographics over the years (shounen, shoujo, seinen, josei, etc.), and if I wanted a sweet love story I can easily find one. This manga is one of the few eroticas I've read that tries to be both smut and also reflect on the inherent emptiness of transactional sexual relationships in a nuanced manner, and for the most part, I think Takeda Super has succeeded in both these goals.

I wonder what manga you (and others who feel similarly) compare this manga to. I'd really like to find seinen/erotica of a similar/better quality, and would really like some good recommendations to check out.

I appreciate your comment since I think many readers agree with you that this manga is trash. But, I'm also happy to discover a few people on this forum that seem to agree with me - that this manga is something special and worth reading.
 
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I agree with you on how bad the writing is for the most recent 3 chapters, but I personally disagree that this story is dumb and lazy. Smut is populated with dumb and lazy works, and there's a reason why this manga has managed to outshine and succeed many of them, and not because of a lack of effort on the mangaka's part imo.

I'm #3, in that I genuinely enjoy this manga for what it is. I appreciate how unique this work is compared to other erotic seinen manga out there. I've read a lot of manga in all sorts of genres/demographics over the years (shounen, shoujo, seinen, josei, etc.), and if I wanted a sweet love story I can easily find one. This manga is one of the few eroticas I've read that tries to be both smut and also reflect on the inherent emptiness of transactional sexual relationships in a nuanced manner, and for the most part, I think Takeda Super has succeeded in both these goals.

I wonder what manga you (and others who feel similarly) compare this manga to. I'd really like to find seinen/erotica of a similar/better quality, and would really like some good recommendations to check out.

I appreciate your comment since I think many readers agree with you that this manga is trash. But, I'm also happy to discover a few people on this forum that seem to agree with me - that this manga is something special and worth reading.
The honesty and effort you put into that earns a response, even though normally I don't really get involved in discussion for this title.

It's worth pointing out that the way this title started was good enough to earn my interest. There are plenty of bad manga out there but I don't get into them to begin with. The problem with this was is that it started out really good and had the potential to continue being good. It is that unrealized potential that frustrates me as a reader.

Most people will point to the absurd retcons as the reason this became bad. And they have good reason, but that's not really what it is for me.

For me, it's that the premise which was right there in the title was abandoned pretty quickly. This claimed to be, and for a short period was, a story about a guy who liked a girl who freely had sex with other people. That was a massive anomaly in manga: actually accepting a relationship style that was not mononormative, without it being a harem? That is extremely rare and got my attention right away.

Unfortunately, the author did not have the guts to stick with that, even though he had enough to defy his editor for the sake of a (bad) threesome. Quickly, it became a story about the main character wanting to claim his love interest for himself. And his love interest also quickly showed changes in no longer being so comfortable with the way she did things.

It's a lot like when you spot a manga about some guy falling in love with an overweight girl, only for the manga to pivot immediately to her losing weight. Like why do you torpedo the one unique thing going on on the story? (A Bouquet for an Ugly Girl is the one exception I'm aware of for this; all others immediately pivot to weight loss.)

Now, there's a lot left in this story that is..."unique", but not necessarily anything good. Like the way all these random girls suddenly fall for the MC out of nowhere with no reason at all. It's beyond the harem thing; in a harem, the MC is usually an honest, forthright, and positive person. Or at minimum, there's a lack of other options as love interests (e.g., they all live together in a dorm or something). But none of that applies here. The MC is an overall shitty person with little to be attracted to, and yet everyone at this point is just falling all over themselves for him--even though they usually have reasons specifically to dislike him.

Additionally, there's the big issues with the art which have been present for a long time. If you want, go through a chapter in the 50s or whatever and look at just how many times Gotou is drawn with the same stupid gaping OoO face, because the mangaka evidently has such a small quiver of available expressions he can draw. It has been dozens of times in a single chapter. These characters have bad dialogue and extremely limited expressions. There's little nuance to glean from any given panel in any chapter. It is awkward. It is hamfisted. And this is not a new thing.

The writing is just...things happen, with absolutely no reason to expect them to happen. Takeda Super had been relentlessly chasing whatever idea he thinks is titillating that day. There is clearly no long term planning. Characterizations have been replaced entirely. The roles characters play in the story are instantly and unceremoniously changed. Others just seem to act inhumanly, nonsensically.

You want a shocking, smutty manga that actually pulls off everything it is trying to? Maybe check out Sasha-chan. The characters are expressive, amusing, complex, and dynamic. They have growth. And certainly, it isn't all widely palatable--there are many people disgusted by the content, and that's understandable. But the author's effort stands miles above what is going on here. He cares about the characters; he's not just throwing them as sacrifices into one dumb thing after another.

Really the only reason I read this anymore is that it's interesting to see just how hot the dumpster fire burns. But I can tell you I would absolutely never pay for it. I would not want to reward this disdain for the audience.
 
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The honesty and effort you put into that earns a response, even though normally I don't really get involved in discussion for this title.

It's worth pointing out that the way this title started was good enough to earn my interest. There are plenty of bad manga out there but I don't get into them to begin with. The problem with this was is that it started out really good and had the potential to continue being good. It is that unrealized potential that frustrates me as a reader.

Most people will point to the absurd retcons as the reason this became bad. And they have good reason, but that's not really what it is for me.

For me, it's that the premise which was right there in the title was abandoned pretty quickly. This claimed to be, and for a short period was, a story about a guy who liked a girl who freely had sex with other people. That was a massive anomaly in manga: actually accepting a relationship style that was not mononormative, without it being a harem? That is extremely rare and got my attention right away.

Unfortunately, the author did not have the guts to stick with that, even though he had enough to defy his editor for the sake of a (bad) threesome. Quickly, it became a story about the main character wanting to claim his love interest for himself. And his love interest also quickly showed changes in no longer being so comfortable with the way she did things.

It's a lot like when you spot a manga about some guy falling in love with an overweight girl, only for the manga to pivot immediately to her losing weight. Like why do you torpedo the one unique thing going on on the story? (A Bouquet for an Ugly Girl is the one exception I'm aware of for this; all others immediately pivot to weight loss.)

Now, there's a lot left in this story that is..."unique", but not necessarily anything good. Like the way all these random girls suddenly fall for the MC out of nowhere with no reason at all. It's beyond the harem thing; in a harem, the MC is usually an honest, forthright, and positive person. Or at minimum, there's a lack of other options as love interests (e.g., they all live together in a dorm or something). But none of that applies here. The MC is an overall shitty person with little to be attracted to, and yet everyone at this point is just falling all over themselves for him--even though they usually have reasons specifically to dislike him.

Additionally, there's the big issues with the art which have been present for a long time. If you want, go through a chapter in the 50s or whatever and look at just how many times Gotou is drawn with the same stupid gaping OoO face, because the mangaka evidently has such a small quiver of available expressions he can draw. It has been dozens of times in a single chapter. These characters have bad dialogue and extremely limited expressions. There's little nuance to glean from any given panel in any chapter. It is awkward. It is hamfisted. And this is not a new thing.

The writing is just...things happen, with absolutely no reason to expect them to happen. Takeda Super had been relentlessly chasing whatever idea he thinks is titillating that day. There is clearly no long term planning. Characterizations have been replaced entirely. The roles characters play in the story are instantly and unceremoniously changed. Others just seem to act inhumanly, nonsensically.

You want a shocking, smutty manga that actually pulls off everything it is trying to? Maybe check out Sasha-chan. The characters are expressive, amusing, complex, and dynamic. They have growth. And certainly, it isn't all widely palatable--there are many people disgusted by the content, and that's understandable. But the author's effort stands miles above what is going on here. He cares about the characters; he's not just throwing them as sacrifices into one dumb thing after another.

Really the only reason I read this anymore is that it's interesting to see just how hot the dumpster fire burns. But I can tell you I would absolutely never pay for it. I would not want to reward this disdain for the audience.
Fair point about the art style, something that you didn’t even quite elaborate on is just how much Takeda blatantly reuses panels to the point where it’s actually comical. I mean you’d think he’d take a hint over the fact that Shigemi’s sex scene was the best the manga looked in a while and he was taking a full two weeks to draw each one of those chapters.

Besides that, I think you’re way off about how promising the direction the manga was going pre-retcon really was. At best it was just going to be a retread of the original H-manga, not terrible, but still super predictable and pointless. At worst it was boring melodramatic NTRdogshit with a passive and pathetic MC, while also being a pointless and predictable retread of the original H-manga. The fact that the manga still sells well and that we’re all still talking and arguing about it demonstrates in part that throwing that other shit in the trash was likely the best move. Who’s Gotou going to fuck next? How’s that relationship going to blow up in his face? What part is his lingering attachment to Agawa going to play in all this? It’s unpredictable, fascinating, and both intentionally and unintentionally hilarious; and even just plain sexy. It’s a fun manga, in short.


As for a another point of contention from yourself, it’s clear that from your outright dismissal of this manga that you’re not reading it particularly closely, because the suggestion that the heroines we’ve seen have “fallen in love with Gotou for no reason” is just plain wrong. One girl’s his childhood friend that he played baseball with that has a typical crush on him, the one’s drawn to him because he’s a good fuck and is a slut like her half-sister, and another was just curious after hearing about the kind of guy he was. I mean if you’re gonna write an essay about how bad a manga is, at least get simple shit like that right. Hell, it’s not as if Gotou even has a proper harem at this point, because unlike real harem stories where the girls orbit the MC like the sun (whether or not he actually fucks them); Gotou’s now pretty alienated from the four girls he banged prior, hence why the hungry cougar was able to pounce on him so quickly and easily.


Lastly, since you brought it up, I’ve never read Sasha-chan and maybe I should; but judging from these pages I took from a random later chapter alone-
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I kinda doubt that it’s really that much more enjoyable a read in comparison to this. Even if Sasha-chan was a better manga than Daredemo, would the later really be better if it were just a worse drawn version of this?
 
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The honesty and effort you put into that earns a response, even though normally I don't really get involved in discussion for this title.

It's worth pointing out that the way this title started was good enough to earn my interest. There are plenty of bad manga out there but I don't get into them to begin with. The problem with this was is that it started out really good and had the potential to continue being good. It is that unrealized potential that frustrates me as a reader.

Most people will point to the absurd retcons as the reason this became bad. And they have good reason, but that's not really what it is for me.

For me, it's that the premise which was right there in the title was abandoned pretty quickly. This claimed to be, and for a short period was, a story about a guy who liked a girl who freely had sex with other people. That was a massive anomaly in manga: actually accepting a relationship style that was not mononormative, without it being a harem? That is extremely rare and got my attention right away.

Unfortunately, the author did not have the guts to stick with that, even though he had enough to defy his editor for the sake of a (bad) threesome. Quickly, it became a story about the main character wanting to claim his love interest for himself. And his love interest also quickly showed changes in no longer being so comfortable with the way she did things.

It's a lot like when you spot a manga about some guy falling in love with an overweight girl, only for the manga to pivot immediately to her losing weight. Like why do you torpedo the one unique thing going on on the story? (A Bouquet for an Ugly Girl is the one exception I'm aware of for this; all others immediately pivot to weight loss.)

Now, there's a lot left in this story that is..."unique", but not necessarily anything good. Like the way all these random girls suddenly fall for the MC out of nowhere with no reason at all. It's beyond the harem thing; in a harem, the MC is usually an honest, forthright, and positive person. Or at minimum, there's a lack of other options as love interests (e.g., they all live together in a dorm or something). But none of that applies here. The MC is an overall shitty person with little to be attracted to, and yet everyone at this point is just falling all over themselves for him--even though they usually have reasons specifically to dislike him.

Additionally, there's the big issues with the art which have been present for a long time. If you want, go through a chapter in the 50s or whatever and look at just how many times Gotou is drawn with the same stupid gaping OoO face, because the mangaka evidently has such a small quiver of available expressions he can draw. It has been dozens of times in a single chapter. These characters have bad dialogue and extremely limited expressions. There's little nuance to glean from any given panel in any chapter. It is awkward. It is hamfisted. And this is not a new thing.

The writing is just...things happen, with absolutely no reason to expect them to happen. Takeda Super had been relentlessly chasing whatever idea he thinks is titillating that day. There is clearly no long term planning. Characterizations have been replaced entirely. The roles characters play in the story are instantly and unceremoniously changed. Others just seem to act inhumanly, nonsensically.

You want a shocking, smutty manga that actually pulls off everything it is trying to? Maybe check out Sasha-chan. The characters are expressive, amusing, complex, and dynamic. They have growth. And certainly, it isn't all widely palatable--there are many people disgusted by the content, and that's understandable. But the author's effort stands miles above what is going on here. He cares about the characters; he's not just throwing them as sacrifices into one dumb thing after another.

Really the only reason I read this anymore is that it's interesting to see just how hot the dumpster fire burns. But I can tell you I would absolutely never pay for it. I would not want to reward this disdain for the audience.
Thank you for the thoughtful and detailed reply. I also enjoy the countless "wow big boobs good" comments, but the main reason I started participating in these forums was because I wanted thoughtful discussions about manga I'm passionate about.

I'll catch up on Sasha-chan (which I have in my backlog), and will address your points in a full reply later on once I'm done reading it. Though it seems like @Roadwarior2 has beaten me to the punch on a few points lol
 
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When was it implied that Agawa slept with her friend's dad? I must've missed this.
When Gouto's friend showed him photos of Agawa leaving with men from a Love Hotel, a dark-skinned man with a white shirt and black hair is seen, much later we see Agawa's friends talking amongst themselves, and we see the father of the darker-skin girl tending his shop; he's the man in the photo.
 
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When Gouto's friend showed him photos of Agawa leaving with men from a Love Hotel, a dark-skinned man with a white shirt and black hair is seen, much later we see Agawa's friends talking amongst themselves, and we see the father of the darker-skin girl tending his shop; he's the man in the photo.
That's really sharp of you to notice this (Ch.1 page 15, Ch.15 page 15, and both retconned + revised Vol.4 Ch.31 page 7, not online Ch.31).

I'm not 100% convinced it's the exact same character (Nanamori Shoko's dad), but if it is, that's wild cuz Shoko is implied to be Agawa's best friend. I wonder if Shoko's mom is still alive, and if Shoko knows about this.
 
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For me, it's that the premise which was right there in the title was abandoned pretty quickly. This claimed to be, and for a short period was, a story about a guy who liked a girl who freely had sex with other people. That was a massive anomaly in manga: actually accepting a relationship style that was not mononormative, without it being a harem? That is extremely rare and got my attention right away.

Unfortunately, the author did not have the guts to stick with that, even though he had enough to defy his editor for the sake of a (bad) threesome. Quickly, it became a story about the main character wanting to claim his love interest for himself. And his love interest also quickly showed changes in no longer being so comfortable with the way she did things.
I find your take on this manga's premise to be inaccurate. You've stated that the premise is about "a story about a guy who liked a girl who freely had sex with other people", that Gotou started off accepting a non-mononormative relationship style with Agawa, and that this premise is quickly abandoned by the author.

However, from the very first few chapters, Gotou clearly feels conflicted about his desires for a wholesome, exclusive romance with Agawa and her hobby of casual sex, and has never accepted that liking Agawa romantically meant embracing her sleeping around with other people. He only goes along with Agawa's offer to sleep with him because he doesn't see any other way for a shy, insecure and unpopular boy like him to have a chance (romantically or sexually) with a cheerful, popular girl like Agawa. After he sleeps with Agawa for the first time, he feels "defeated by his dick" (Ch.9) and painfully admits to his friend that he'd rather be one of Agawa's many sex friends than risk being rejected by her and becoming distant towards her as a result (highly likely, since Agawa 1. doesn't know him well and 2. is afraid of emotional intimacy, as we find out later).

This insurmountable problem Gotou faces is the premise of the story: how does an average boy stand out from Agawa's many sex friends and become somebody truly special to her, when she is determined to keep things casual and deny all romantic advances that come her way? In his pursuit of Agawa, Gotou has lied to himself over and over again, acting like he's fine that Agawa sleeps with others, trying his best to become a sex god since he thought that's what Agawa might want from him (only to get rejected by Agawa cuz he gave off bad vibes), and even declaring he "loves everyone" in a failed attempt to embrace polyamory (leading to Shigemi destroying those false convictions later on).

The author Takeda Super has been consistent with this premise throughout the story, as Gotou keeps trying to become someone that can win Agawa's heart. His efforts aren't completely in vain though, as we see Agawa become less fulfilled with casual sex over time, and we even see a hint of attachment through Agawa's sadness when Gotou inadvertently "cucks" her in a classroom with Akito and Shiina (Ch.72). Deep down, Agawa too yearns for someone to like her beyond her sexual charms, and we even see this much earlier on during her second time with Gotou (Ch.17). Gotou crosses her boundary of protected sex, and she gets angry and cries because he seems to just treat her as an easy girl for anyone to fuck (she's wrong since Gotou genuinely likes her as a person, making this another tragic misunderstanding).

From early on until the later arcs, Takeda Super has consistently portrayed Agawa as a wholesome girl with a toxic tendency to sexualize herself, even when she subconsciously desires something more intimate. Her lack of understanding about her innermost feelings is a driving force of the story, and these feelings are the opening for Gotou to win over her heart. I find both Gotou and Agawa to be compelling characters, and seeing them change and grow as people (not always positively) has been really enjoyable to read so far.

I think @Roadwarior2 does a good job explaining why Gotou doesn't actually have random women "fall" for him, and I agree that Gotou is now more alone than ever despite sleeping with so many women.

I also agree with Roadwarior2's take that the retcon was likely the best choice moving forward. Once blackmail from an authority figure (the sensei) is involved, it's extremely difficult to write a romcom story where Gotou saves Agawa from this situation. Gotou's strongest weapon is his willingness to be true to his feelings, and while this can encourage Agawa to figure out her own innermost feelings and be true to them (which is very possible as of the current storyline), it's not enough to eliminate the systemic power gap between a blackmailing teacher vs. a student victim. This isn't a big-brained battle shounen like Death Note where Gotou can easily formulate a plan to eliminate the sensei and rescue his damsel in distress. More importantly, it's nearly impossible for Gotou overcome the darkness in Agawa's heart if Agawa cannot stand up for herself against her blackmailing teacher, and instead chooses to go along with his dark deal. Overall, I'm happy Takeda Super recognized the "Bad End" he wrote himself into and decided to rewrite things.

You want a shocking, smutty manga that actually pulls off everything it is trying to? Maybe check out Sasha-chan.
Thanks for the rec! After reading through all 94 current chapters, I found Sasha-chan to be a cozy slice of life/romance with an interesting sexual component - Sasha willingly going through sexual situations (threesome, cucking, etc.) for her own enjoyment and also for her master's art (he's an ero mangaka).

I enjoyed the cute art style (very detailed, Haguhagu is a fantastic artist), but didn't find the overall story to be compelling since it's pretty clear that Sasha and her master are a couple (officially or otherwise), and nothing will stop them from continuing their playful and quirky relationship (unless Sasha decides to completely cuck and abandon him, if she feels this will elevate her master's art even further).

Sasha-chan has its erotic moments, but I found it to be more comparable to a non-erotic slice of life romance like Horimiya than a tragedy-filled romantic drama like Daredemo.

There's so much more I can write about, but I'll stop here for the sake of "brevity" and time lol. Thanks again for your thought-provoking comments, as I enjoyed reading them and comparing them to my own thoughts on this manga which I truly adore.
 
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