Mangadex to purge titles for legal reasons

[cybeast21]

It's just funny that people saw fictional loli/shota and instantly think "IT'S REAL CHILDREN BEING HARMED!!! BAN IT!!!"

But not even batting an eye to the level of violence we do in say, GTA, GoW, CoD, Fortnite, CS, etc etc etc. The double standard and hipocrisy is so much you can see it from Pluto.

As being said in previous page(s), there's nothing indicating the number of CSA in JP is distinctively higher than the other country.

"But we shouldn't normalize this-"

Normalize my bullcarp, we already have games like GTA for long time, and yet violence was not normalized.

By this logic, manga like MHA shouldn't exist (underage working, highschooler violence, etc) or Berserk (extreme violence), or movies like Hostel (extreme violence), Braindead, etc.

And the list goes on and on.

Heck, even the tamest manga like Yotsuba shouldn't exist cause what Yanda did? Constantly pranking Yotsuba. Pranking is not a good thing and we shouldn't normalize it!

Read that and realize how dumb you people are.

 

[killugon]

Normies see guro, they don't like it. They walk away.
Normies see bestiality, they don't like it. They walk away.
Uncultured swine Westoids see loli, they screech like banshees, crusading to burn it all in their fake justice
Secretly throbbing with guilty boners they're too spineless to confess.

 

[NARESH4444]

I see your problem,and I raise you the solution.

 

[cybeast21]

All of this and Neko is still on the admin team despite calling us with names.

Isn't that kinda banable offense

 

[seekermoc]

What's happening this time?

People making up nonsense to try and distract from the underlying problem. Probably hoping the absurdity of their arguments will cause sane people to leave and make this thread die out.

 

[NARESH4444]

That only works if all fictional content has the same social impact. It doesn’t.

The debate around violent games was about aggression. This is about sexual content involving minors. Those are treated differently legally and socially for a reason.

And “it’s still on the site” doesn’t really prove anything moderation decisions aren’t the same as moral or legal conclusions.

also stop trying to flip my argument on me lord
and if you guys find this annoying there are many other sites that you can use that is a lot like this one

It does.

Always has.

The amount of impact is purely a case by case basis,but in this post modern era of the world wide web,lies can easily be spread but also just as easily be stomped,the masses online are no mere sheeple.

The debate about violent video games was the same debate raised against the television,which was the same raised against the radio,and for some,the same issue raised about the newspaper.

A new tech that allows people to communicate and share ideas more easily scares the rich n' powerful who use ignorance to control us,and the anti-spread is further propogated by those who ate the onion,in this case,you.

Violent video games don't cause violence.

Crime television series don't cause crime.

Political music lyrics don't cause politics.

Gambling novel protagonists don't cause gambling.

So why would any of these :

Cause people to harm an actual child?

Legally,there's zero problems,socially,only silly fellas such as yourself have a problem whilst trying to get into a hobby to infect it with the same bull crap that MangaDex is now pulling.

Gatekeeping has never been more important now then ever before,2025 reversed the trend,and 2026 revealed the origin of the trend to be none other then Jeffery Esptein,the devil himself.

Here's hopin' you realise the error of your ways.

 

[Askelon]

If it were almost anything else, most ppl would probably agree. The fact that it's a drawing of the worst thing imaginable still doesn't change what it is. The website's decision isn't gonna lead to anything besides the content not being available here.
YOU miss the point.

+1

That IS the point. It's a drawing(so not real, and it is art) of the worst thing imaginable. If you want to stand for artistic freedom and against censorship, you have to spend most of your time defending the most fringe content because that is what will always be under attack first. Censorship always starts like this; The expectation is that people will let it slide because it's not "almost anything else", and then you target the next most fringe piece of content, and people shrug since it's still seen pretty badly and the precedent is set. Then it's the next, and then the next, and eventually it works its way down to things you don't find terrible, but other people will, and by then it's too late.

You have to draw the line at the first step, because otherwise it will never end. It's never the safe inoffensive content that needs defending, and it's always the most questionable that comes under attack first because that's how the foot gets in the door. You can't be for "a little" censorship, you have to be against it all or for it all because even if you don't want that or intend it, that's how it will end up.

What's going to happen if this is allowed to slide is other kinds of socially unacceptable content will come under attack, sooner or later. It might be the super edgy violent material, it might be series that contain nonconsensual intercourse, it might be any number of things. But I guarantee you, it might not be immediate, it might take a while, but it won't end with the loli/shota, it will jump to other topics. And at first they will be things like I mentioned above, but it'll keep going after that.

 

[RogueKitsune]

All of this and Neko is still on the admin team despite calling us with names.

And that will probably not change.

 

[furryadminhypocrite]

Your argument falls apart as soon as we look at the data
Japan has produced and consumed this content for decades and doesn't show elevated CSA rates compared to countries that ban it outright. If the pipeline from fiction to real abuse were as direct as people claim, that should show up somewhere measurable but It doesn't

Now the bigger issue is what you're actually arguing when you say fictional content = CP. Real CP is illegal because a real child was harmed to produce it. That's the harm. That's why it's a crime. A drawing has no victim in its production. Conflating the two doesn't protect more kids, it just muddies a legal principle that exists for a very specific reason.

The strongest version of your argument is that "it sustains attraction that could eventually translate to real harm"

Fine, that's worth discussing. But "might contribute to bad outcomes in some people" is a very different claim than "this is CP." One is a policy debate about risk, the other is a factual claim that happens to be wrong by the definition that makes CP illegal in the first place.

Nobody here is saying the content is wholesome, yhe argument is about what words mean and whether bad policy actually protects kids or just virtual signaling

The rates are low because nobody cares what happen to homeless.

 

[deleted-user-756fab4ef9]

I don't give a shit about the loli hentai, it personally gives me the ick, I care about the precedent it sets.
It never just "stops" at the first thing, once they get an inch they take a mile.
How long till, What Happens Inside the Dungeon gets nuked? Or Gushing over Magical Girls, Imaizumi Brings All the Gals to His House, Nana and Kaoru, Tsugumomo, Breasts Are My Favorite Things in the World!, I Want to See You Embarrassed, or
A Reincarnated Carrier’s Strategy for Another World.
Manga that has "underage" boy with teacher romances, or "high school" aged adventures, etc.
I invite all of you to go to Advanced Search, filter Erotic, sort by Highest Rating and actually take a look at how many fantastic mangas will disappear into the ether if the rules slightly change to "high schoolers" are minors and therefore banned.

 

[Chizan]

The rates are low because nobody cares what happen to homeless.

What has homelessness to do with drawn art?

Besides, I'm pretty sure homeless rates are higher in the US on average compared to Japan, and if you raise the point of hiding homelessness(what exactly is the point of that in this discussion?) pretty sure republicans have that covered trying to drive homeless people out of cities or into hiding mostly by making it illegal to sleep in public in several places in the US..

 

[erova]

this discussion has kinda drifted from the main point, gotta admit this is and has been poorly handled, and i doubt it'll improve anytime soon, near or far.
doesn't matter how many titles actually get taken down, it's the lack of consistency with their own past statements.
if you ask me, the best u can do is just let this site die.

 

[Miros]

The rates are low because nobody cares what happen to homeless.

okay.... my comment was about CSA aka "child sexual abuse", so why exactly are you answering with something about the homeless problems in japan?

 

[mangadexjp]

okay.... my comment was about CSA aka "child sexual abuse", so why exactly are you answering with something about the homeless problems in japan?

not only that but also with a content by oriental pearl who was caught faking videos
who then later tried to garner sympathy by falsely accusing other creator for harassment

 

[seekermoc]

I invite all of you to go to Advanced Search, filter Erotic, sort by Highest Rating and actually take a look at how many fantastic mangas will disappear into the ether if the rules slightly change to "high schoolers" are minors and therefore banned.

This whole thread began because they nuked a series about a 17yo high school girl having a relationship with an older guy.

Meanwhile hundreds of series featuring elementary school children remain available, with mods even banning users reporting them. While bending over backwards to suck the virtual cocks of undefined "legal nexus'" reporting series that don't even violate the rules they cite as justification.

 

[deleted-user-756fab4ef9]

This whole thread began because they nuked a series about a 17yo high school girl having a relationship with an older guy.

Meanwhile hundreds of series featuring elementary school children remain available, with mods even banning users reporting them. While bending over backwards to suck the virtual cocks of undefined "legal nexus'" reporting series that don't even violate the rules they cite as justification.

Yup, I got banned for reporting like 10 of them. Wasn't even reporting SFW/Suggestive, just straight Erotic.
Thankfully I was already in the process of moving over to Suwayomi and had my Library already exported.

 

[furryadminhypocrite]

okay.... my comment was about CSA aka "child sexual abuse", so why exactly are you answering with something about the homeless problems in japan?

People without a home have to feed themselves and how do you get money? sell yourself.

 

[Eighty-six]

The debate around violent games was about aggression. This is about sexual content involving minors. Those are treated differently legally and socially for a reason.

You don't know what that reason is, otherwise you would have already explained how violent video games don't encourage antisocial behavior but loli material (regardless of how the doodles are contextualized) necessarily makes people amenable to pedophilia (another kind of antisocial behavior) despite being equally fictional.

The difference is "vibes", by the way. It's what you're already comfortable with seeing depicted in fiction media. Violence makes you feel less icky. You're just trying to give weight to these vibes. They're obviously different things but they're identically fictional-- even the content policy of this site lumps "child pornography" (however you want to use that term) with child "drug use" and "child abuse".

It’s not about protecting drawings. it's about protecting real kids and not creating demand for that kind of material.

You've proposed not even a segment of a "Blue Archive to Little St. James" pipeline, presumably because there actually isn't one, and having any kind of affinity for a Blue Archive character is extremely unlikely at best to lead you to venturing onto the dark web to commission and buy videotaped child sexual abuse.

This is the kind of thing that someone says when they don't even have an abstract idea about what pedophilia or child pornography is. Clearly, you just think it's "pornography, but with kids, which makes it somewhat ickier". Rather than child sexual abuse that is videotaped and distributed.

The fact of the matter is, you don't need to pose a child in a sexual way for a pedophile to be attracted to them-- their attraction to children is about what children are, and child pornography services the specific sadistic paraphilia of the corruption of childhood innocence. They'd be sexually attracted to them being regular children.

That's not a regular thing-- you can't just condition someone into that by normal means, if you could at all.

 

[seekermoc]

People without a home have to feed themselves and how do you get money? sell yourself.

Are you suggesting there are hordes of young homeless girls prowling the streets of Japan looking to fuck for food? You may have read too many loli manga, lmao. Did you know that being unable to distinguish fantasy from reality is a symptom of serious mental health issues?

 

[Eighty-six]

All of this and Neko is still on the admin team despite calling us with names.

Isn't that kinda banable offense

Yeah, sure, but we can take it. It's not even like she ramped up with her original trajectory after getting excoriated by every generation of MangaDex user for not knowing where she was.