New comment functionality does not replicate into forums

[seekermoc]

I can comment directly in-chapter now with the new system



but when I open the chapter thread from the legacy forum, or by clicking on the "read older comments" button at the bottom of the new interface, my comment doesn't appear:

 

[seekermoc]

Chapter: https://mangadex.org/chapter/d7e2b177-1d48-456c-825c-117d2e373acf?comments=1

Forum comment thread: https://forums.mangadex.org/threads/akuyaku-reijou-tensei-ojisan-vol-9-ch-55-the-alchemist.2637327/

 

[shinya78]

Any staff could easily correct me if I am wrong, but this is likely Not A Bug, as the two are separate systems each having their own separate purpose.

the plan is to keep both the new comments and the forums alive at the same time, with each having its own purpose.
Title and chapter comments on the new system, and general chatting and discussion here in the forums (so yeah, lurkers, you can keep lurking as you've been doing up until now).

 

[curvedtree]

I don't think it is a bug either, it is just supporters having a place us commoners won't, like you will be interacting with MangaDex royalty while the majority of use will just keep judging you and talking in the forums as usual lmao talk about a stupid update.

 

[seekermoc]

Any staff could easily correct me if I am wrong, but this is likely Not A Bug, as the two are separate systems each having their own separate purpose.

I'm sorry if I misunderstood, but if different groups of people are commenting on the same chapter, but can't see each other's updates, then that's absolutely a bug.

Especially if the first person, and only the first person, to comment is seen in both categories.

 

[seekermoc]

Any staff could easily correct me if I am wrong, but this is likely Not A Bug, as the two are separate systems each having their own separate purpose.

I can't even react as confused to your comment, as I get nothing when I hover the like button, and when I click it, instead of the usually reaction, I instead get this:

 

[shinya78]

I'm sorry if I misunderstood, but if different groups of people are commenting on the same chapter, but can't see each other's updates, then that's absolutely a bug.

Especially if the first person, and only the first person, to comment is seen in both categories.

Can you confirm if the timestamps for the comment and the forum post are exactly the same?

Otherwise, it's likely the person created a forum thread, said function being hidden away in the kebab menu(the three vertical dots) as seen here, and posted the exact same message.

 

[BestBoy]

timestamps

Just to provide some support here, I'm fairly certain the comment section and forum thread are created separately.

For example:

https://mangadex.org/chapter/10086efa-7173-4ded-a4c0-4a7e025b3421?comments=1

https://forums.mangadex.org/threads/nozomanu-fushi-no-boukensha-ch-69.2637138/

 

[seekermoc]

Can you confirm if the timestamps for the comment and the forum post are exactly the same?

Otherwise, it's likely the person created a forum thread, said function being hidden away in the kebab menu(the three vertical dots) as seen here, and posted the exact same message.

They're within 22 seconds of one another.

 

[shinya78]

They're within 22 seconds of one another.

Time discrepancy is enough to tell that they don't really sync up, and @BestBoy 's example blows it straight out of the water by showing that the first comment isn't even from the same user that first posted at the respective forum thread.

 

[seekermoc]

The first post in both instances are identical, and both from the same user, the group leader from the group that scanlated the chapter (nothing against them). Did you even click on the links, or are you just making shit up because you don't agree with the narrative?

 

[seekermoc]

Updated screenshots. The thread creator and initial posts are identical in both instances. I'm not sure what you're on about, but we're both dissatisfied with the current situation, so I legitimately don't understand your opposition to my comments. And @BestBoy is a shill for MD, and even a cursory look at his post history makes this clear, so pointing to them doesn't lend any credibility to your argument.

Edit: and even if they're different, it's still a bug, assuming that the intended endstate is that comment sections aren't intentionally different for different classes of users.

 

[shinya78]

The first post in both instances are identical, and both from the same user, the group leader from the group that scanlated the chapter (nothing against them). Did you even click on the links, or are you just making shit up because you don't agree with the narrative?

What does that say about @BestBoy's example then?

The first post in both instances are different, and both from different users. Did you even click on the links, or are you just making shit up because you don't agree with the narrative?

 

[shinya78]

Updated screenshots. The thread creator and initial posts are identical in both instances. I'm not sure what you're on about, but we're both dissatisfied with the current situation, so I legitimately don't understand your opposition to my comments. And @BestBoy is a shill for MD, and even a cursory look at his post history makes this clear, so pointing to them doesn't lend any credibility to your argument.

As already mentioned, the new comments and the old forum threads are completely separate systems. One is for the main site, while the other is for here at the forums. There's no reason for @Bartolumiu to mention

the plan is to keep both the new comments and the forums alive at the same time, with each having its own purpose.

if the new comments and the forum threads are to be synced 1:1.

I am asking, did you even consider other examples of comments not being the same as their forum thread counterparts?

For example:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/10086efa-7173-4ded-a4c0-4a7e025b3421?comments=1
https://forums.mangadex.org/threads/nozomanu-fushi-no-boukensha-ch-69.2637138/

If not @BestBoy 's , then this one?
Comments
Forum thread
Same first user, different first content.

 

[seekermoc]

As already mentioned, the new comments and the old forum threads are completely separate systems. One is for the main site, while the other is for here at the forums. There's no reason for @Bartolumiu to mention

if the new comments and the forum threads are to be synced 1:1.

I am asking, did you even consider other examples of comments not being the same as their forum thread counterparts?

If not @BestBoy 's , then this one?
Comments
Forum thread
Same first user, different first content.

Do you really not think that comments being segregated between what you can view in-chapter, vs what you see in the forums, is an issue?

 

[seekermoc]

Just to provide some support here, I'm fairly certain the comment section and forum thread are created separately.

For example:

https://mangadex.org/chapter/10086efa-7173-4ded-a4c0-4a7e025b3421?comments=1

https://forums.mangadex.org/threads/nozomanu-fushi-no-boukensha-ch-69.2637138/

Sorry for the meguusad, as you're one of the more reasonable diehard MD supporters, but as much as I love and support MD, defending everything they do writ-large is a step too far for me.

 

[BestBoy]

defending

I call them out when something is truly over the line. I was the first one to call out the AI girlfriend ad last year, after all, as that is a direct inroad to AI psychosis.

New features and functions have growing pains, but folks decrying their addition as the end of the website is hyperbolic and silly to me.

What's clear to me, though, is that the new comments and old forums being separate is not a bug.

 

[shinya78]

Do you really not think that comments being segregated between what you can view in-chapter, vs what you see in the forums, is an issue?

Have you not seen the massive wall-of-texts and quote-upon-quote replies some users have made in the forums, on mobile? It ain't fun scrolling down just one person's life's journey just to reply to some other guy at the very bottom of the page.

Alternatively, the new comments is possibly being designed with mobile and the upcoming official app in mind. Separating the two and integrating (maybe only) the new system into the app could be their way to side-step any possible issues from xenforo that may arise. But hey, that's just a theory.

A DEV CONSPIRACY THEORY, thanks for reading.

 

[MostlyHumanTLs]

Worst part is actually the fact that clicking on the comments on the chapter now opens the chapter itself along with this useless comment section, marking the chapter as read.

My usual "workflow" is to check the comments on some chapters without actually reading the chapter, so this change makes it unnecessarily more annoying to get back to neutral.

What a retarded addition. This site is truly dying.

 

[Dverin_Oshiban_Duren]

Worst part is actually the fact that clicking on the comments on the chapter now opens the chapter itself along with this useless comment section, marking the chapter as read.

That doesn't seem to be an intended feature and is more of a bug. Nobody likes it.