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Really want to like this manga but just cant like the story, maybe its because Im 15 chapters in but something not clicking for me.
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Tongari Boushi no Atelier
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came here just to praise this manga
i've bought 3 volumes of official ukrainian publishing, and fell in love with manga.
planning to buy all of them
i've bought 3 volumes of official ukrainian publishing, and fell in love with manga.
planning to buy all of them
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It was one of my favorites... It's a shame it got taken down ;(
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Such a shame this got nuked 
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you can find it elsewhereSuch a shame this got nuked
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I read it somewhere else as well, but I miss the discussions here
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ah ye i totally get you on that
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elsewhere where?
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Where?? And how on earth did this get nuked here on MD?? I let it marinate for so long only to see unavailable chapters..
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send you message too.
I was in the same boat, i let all kind of slow to release manga marinate and then forget, god know how many mangas i have abandoned because MD nuked them or the groups dropped them
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Read up to ch25, it's alright, people talked about it's a "hard" magic system, clear defined rules, I do enjoy worldbuilding, and magic systems, but this feels, bland?
5/10? It can easily be 10/10 (at ch25), maybe it expands, I'll come back to it, it's nice to loot at, the magic system's been thought of, but the characters, pacing/tension, and "rules" are lame
There's a seemingly benevolet stranger, I'm hoping he is benevolent, and not just a lame stranger
E: (Maybe there'll be an age of "sorcery", not "witchery" or "wizardry", refusing to wear any hat, brim or not)
E2: (Maybe, her father used forbidden magic for her birth, that'd be an interesting origin, really is Heinz dilemma, it'd be great if the story does that)
There's floating rocks, maybe they're revisited (in later chapters), but that's really all they're known for, they grow a special "crown" plant on top, lore is to make it the highest crown... and that's it
(You could look at Avatar, they too have floating rocks, that are caused from the magnetic ore, and used by the flying creatures, it has a reason, ore, and a consequence, flying fauna habitat)
(There's the magic attracted creatures in Atelier, but, do they do anything? they just, look cute? it feels like a shallow reason with no consequence, if there was a tale of two gravity controlling witches battling, that were equal in power so stopped by a third party that turned one into a plant and the other into an animal, (to cycle, eating plant, eating corpse) and it's now an old battleground, that'd be cool (But, just to make a crown high? who cares?))
The magic system is cool, in that it's effectively omnipotent, but such harsh rules is suffocating, no "healing"? really? Could you at least give a tale of an undying witch, I understand we're going to be slowly told these tales, like ch23, but it just feels like an over compensating parent, "No using the stove top, I burnt myself once" "No using the microwave it trips the breaker" "No eating cinnamon or nutmeg it can kill you", surgeons use saws, scalpels, morphine, are we going to ban those? This feels like an anti-gun ad, not to get too political, but Switzerland has a high gun ownership rate, it's who holds the gun, not what the gun is or can do, giving a grandma a nuke doesn't mean she'll set it off, give it to Douglas MacArthur, we know what he'll do
It misses the point of "everything in moderation", you can die from drinking too much water (6 liters in 3 hours), I get magic is phenomenon, that can easily go awry, but healing has got to be the strangest limit, just only let certified witch doctors use it?
(This is the "Heinz dilemma", if this story never "grows" it'll be stuck at the level of "stealing is bad", which is retarded)
It feels like it's trying to do "light side/dark side" with Star wars, but often the dark side was sacrificing for power, Darth Sion is a good example, immortal, a walking corpse
(His life was eternal, but at the cost of eternal suffering, later died in peace from love)
and memory wiping, really? there's that other story, "Secrets of the Silent Witch" where magic that messes with the mind is like the only forbidden magic, it just seems so lame, why not morph memories? obscuring the actual details instead of outright erasing them, it could fall into conspiracy that magic isn't even possible as you try with different resources and it never works out
(Also, I don't really feel like it's a "hard" magic system, at any point a special magic can be "discovered", she used petrification like ch1, what goes and doesn't go feels laregly at whim of the author, a witch can easily surpass another with random experiments, it's like some lottery game, who wins? author knows)
Library feels like an answer to "print the runes", you can trace, there was that letter printer (fax basically), so automated magic is possible, and there's tons of research of what everything does
(I sort of feel the story would be better without the library, it's like Serie from Frieren, though that was limited to a person, an entire location that's omnipotent? "Library of lies" from "40k" was cool because you had to go insane from knowing the language just to read a lie, but, all that's known, anyone can use? Whose idea was this? It's guaranteed someone, eventually, will use that power for themself, we're really gonna believe no one, ever, ever used it for self? Maybe this is what that one black haired prodigy mean kid will do, even then, it's such a contrivance, the one time in history it happened is when the main character interacts with them)
(The "all is had" is like some isekai plot, all powerful... so then what? They're probably bored out their mind in that library, it's more interesting to have limits, weaknesses, and costs, it's what the guy who defined "hard" and "soft" magic said, Brandon Sanderson, what this story is sort of running into, what's the cost of magic? some dye? no limit? no weakness? really?)
I do like that "brimmed" are evil, as it plays into obscuring the face, and in an odd way the "unbrimmed" have cloaks to conceal magic use
It's also cool to hear that witches were once greatly feared, though, that "fight" around ch24 was weird, it's all talk, a let down really, into another "peace not war", I doubt there's going to be any pure evils let alone death, introduce a wild polar bear
I don't really enjoy the characters as they don't have personalities but rather traits, same as "Dungeon meshi" you can predict what's gonna happen (like that one elf "ew, gross... yum"), main character will be amazed at magic, main mentor will act cool while doing magic, shy character will be shy or whatever, pressured prodigy will be mean, nice but stern is kind, I can't say any of them stuck with me, one has the goal to make warm clouds you can fly on... how am I supposed to care? why not make food that can be shared like that pot, making the best dish, and maybe using magic for it? like even heat throughout? exact measurements? mess-free cooking? anything really
(If the shy character was instead a schizoid, and had the flaws that followed that personality, that'd be good, but so far every flaw has been quickly been redeemed)
(Nothing is really "lived in", every moment is cut short, I haven't felt emotional, even when her Mom got petrified, usually the moments are broken with the main character going "That's so cool!" to magic, she's like a plot device)
It's a bit strange to have "witch" on everything, witch has a negative connotation, I'd argue the "modern" witches are more like wizards, maybe this is exactly what it's getting at because they basically have a wizard hat, not a witch hat, the evil ones, brimhats have witch hats
It has a lot of potential, but it feels like being on a "low" setting, can be very cool, easily have tension by practicing forbidden magic, but I don't think it'll go there, given the memory erasing, and supposedly ruthless applying of it, I imagine the end will be having her memory erased, and possibly the mentor's too
(or it'll pull the really slow burn of doing all the tests, failing at library, then doing forbidden, whether forbidden is actually practiced will make the story better, but given there's been no deaths, I'm not confident it will)
(given there's the "reverse"/"inverse" magic, there's probably going to be an amnesia arc, trying to undo the memory wiping, if I had to guess, it's begging/bargaining with the knights, then having to go to the library or brimhats, brimhats is more interesting so maybe failing at library, then relying on brimhats)
I imagine the brimhat that's interested in her is her father, maybe he's super old but eternally young, anything can happen
(I imagine a plot point of her having her memory wiped, then having her brimhat return it, but also returning her memories of her father (maybe brimhat), as her memory could've been wiped in the past)
(You could look at Avatar, they too have floating rocks, that are caused from the magnetic ore, and used by the flying creatures, it has a reason, ore, and a consequence, flying fauna habitat)
(There's the magic attracted creatures in Atelier, but, do they do anything? they just, look cute? it feels like a shallow reason with no consequence, if there was a tale of two gravity controlling witches battling, that were equal in power so stopped by a third party that turned one into a plant and the other into an animal, (to cycle, eating plant, eating corpse) and it's now an old battleground, that'd be cool (But, just to make a crown high? who cares?))
The magic system is cool, in that it's effectively omnipotent, but such harsh rules is suffocating, no "healing"? really? Could you at least give a tale of an undying witch, I understand we're going to be slowly told these tales, like ch23, but it just feels like an over compensating parent, "No using the stove top, I burnt myself once" "No using the microwave it trips the breaker" "No eating cinnamon or nutmeg it can kill you", surgeons use saws, scalpels, morphine, are we going to ban those? This feels like an anti-gun ad, not to get too political, but Switzerland has a high gun ownership rate, it's who holds the gun, not what the gun is or can do, giving a grandma a nuke doesn't mean she'll set it off, give it to Douglas MacArthur, we know what he'll do
(This is the "Heinz dilemma", if this story never "grows" it'll be stuck at the level of "stealing is bad", which is retarded)
It feels like it's trying to do "light side/dark side" with Star wars, but often the dark side was sacrificing for power, Darth Sion is a good example, immortal, a walking corpse
(His life was eternal, but at the cost of eternal suffering, later died in peace from love)
and memory wiping, really? there's that other story, "Secrets of the Silent Witch" where magic that messes with the mind is like the only forbidden magic, it just seems so lame, why not morph memories? obscuring the actual details instead of outright erasing them, it could fall into conspiracy that magic isn't even possible as you try with different resources and it never works out
(Also, I don't really feel like it's a "hard" magic system, at any point a special magic can be "discovered", she used petrification like ch1, what goes and doesn't go feels laregly at whim of the author, a witch can easily surpass another with random experiments, it's like some lottery game, who wins? author knows)
Library feels like an answer to "print the runes", you can trace, there was that letter printer (fax basically), so automated magic is possible, and there's tons of research of what everything does
(I sort of feel the story would be better without the library, it's like Serie from Frieren, though that was limited to a person, an entire location that's omnipotent? "Library of lies" from "40k" was cool because you had to go insane from knowing the language just to read a lie, but, all that's known, anyone can use? Whose idea was this? It's guaranteed someone, eventually, will use that power for themself, we're really gonna believe no one, ever, ever used it for self? Maybe this is what that one black haired prodigy mean kid will do, even then, it's such a contrivance, the one time in history it happened is when the main character interacts with them)
(The "all is had" is like some isekai plot, all powerful... so then what? They're probably bored out their mind in that library, it's more interesting to have limits, weaknesses, and costs, it's what the guy who defined "hard" and "soft" magic said, Brandon Sanderson, what this story is sort of running into, what's the cost of magic? some dye? no limit? no weakness? really?)
I do like that "brimmed" are evil, as it plays into obscuring the face, and in an odd way the "unbrimmed" have cloaks to conceal magic use
It's also cool to hear that witches were once greatly feared, though, that "fight" around ch24 was weird, it's all talk, a let down really, into another "peace not war", I doubt there's going to be any pure evils let alone death, introduce a wild polar bear
I don't really enjoy the characters as they don't have personalities but rather traits, same as "Dungeon meshi" you can predict what's gonna happen (like that one elf "ew, gross... yum"), main character will be amazed at magic, main mentor will act cool while doing magic, shy character will be shy or whatever, pressured prodigy will be mean, nice but stern is kind, I can't say any of them stuck with me, one has the goal to make warm clouds you can fly on... how am I supposed to care? why not make food that can be shared like that pot, making the best dish, and maybe using magic for it? like even heat throughout? exact measurements? mess-free cooking? anything really
(If the shy character was instead a schizoid, and had the flaws that followed that personality, that'd be good, but so far every flaw has been quickly been redeemed)
(Nothing is really "lived in", every moment is cut short, I haven't felt emotional, even when her Mom got petrified, usually the moments are broken with the main character going "That's so cool!" to magic, she's like a plot device)
It's a bit strange to have "witch" on everything, witch has a negative connotation, I'd argue the "modern" witches are more like wizards, maybe this is exactly what it's getting at because they basically have a wizard hat, not a witch hat, the evil ones, brimhats have witch hats
It has a lot of potential, but it feels like being on a "low" setting, can be very cool, easily have tension by practicing forbidden magic, but I don't think it'll go there, given the memory erasing, and supposedly ruthless applying of it, I imagine the end will be having her memory erased, and possibly the mentor's too
(or it'll pull the really slow burn of doing all the tests, failing at library, then doing forbidden, whether forbidden is actually practiced will make the story better, but given there's been no deaths, I'm not confident it will)
(given there's the "reverse"/"inverse" magic, there's probably going to be an amnesia arc, trying to undo the memory wiping, if I had to guess, it's begging/bargaining with the knights, then having to go to the library or brimhats, brimhats is more interesting so maybe failing at library, then relying on brimhats)
I imagine the brimhat that's interested in her is her father, maybe he's super old but eternally young, anything can happen
(I imagine a plot point of her having her memory wiped, then having her brimhat return it, but also returning her memories of her father (maybe brimhat), as her memory could've been wiped in the past)
There's a seemingly benevolet stranger, I'm hoping he is benevolent, and not just a lame stranger
E: (Maybe there'll be an age of "sorcery", not "witchery" or "wizardry", refusing to wear any hat, brim or not)
E2: (Maybe, her father used forbidden magic for her birth, that'd be an interesting origin, really is Heinz dilemma, it'd be great if the story does that)
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