Oishinbo - Vol. 32 Ch. 294 - An Exploration of Condiments (Part 2)

[MangaDex]

 

[BippidiBoppetyBoob]

So, Shiro finally kind of gets an unambiguous W here.

 

[Moonman94]

Even when he wins he has to lose in some way.

"Oh you need to stop being so hateful towards your father, the great magnificent man that he is! It's not his fault your mother was too weak to properly serve him food as a woman should! Also don't you realize how great his pottery is?!"

 

[gemgem88]

The last page... Just gotta ask does anyone beside Yamaoka ever call Kaibara out in hus disgusting behaviour from here on out?

 

[TakesatoKeita]

I think if there's one somewhat redeemable quality from Yuzan, it's that he never actually fires his staff or outright tarnishes the reputation of establishments that asked for Yamaoka's help to help improve their skills (especially if Yuzan previously criticized them, which made their lives hell, like in the Oyster Cook-off Arc).

Sometimes I think Yuzan's that way because, as much as his own ego doesn't allow it, he still admits that people who asked for Yamaoka's help did become better in every way, so it'll be his fault (and loss) if he doesn't acknowledge their improvement.

 

[BippidiBoppetyBoob]

Even when he wins he has to lose in some way.

"Oh you need to stop being so hateful towards your father, the great magnificent man that he is! It's not his fault your mother was too weak to properly serve him food as a woman should! Also don't you realize how great his pottery is?!"

Well, Kurita's point is mostly that no one is all good or all bad, and Yamaoka really only has a part of the full story of his parents' marriage. Mainly that his mother wanted Yuzan to shout at her because she didn't want to be treated like an invalid. I believe this is covered much later in more depth.

 

[BippidiBoppetyBoob]

The last page... Just gotta ask does anyone beside Yamaoka ever call Kaibara out in hus disgusting behaviour from here on out?

Not really, because the nastiest elements of his personality are largely directed at Yamaoka. Everyone else seems to think, “yeah, he shouts a lot, but his heart’s in the right place”.

 

[gemgem88]

Not really, because the nastiest elements of his personality are largely directed at Yamaoka. Everyone else seems to think, “yeah, he shouts a lot, but his heart’s in the right place”.

He literally threw a dish at Riyozos face 😂

 

[feignedremoteness]

the way he trustingly opens his mouth on the last page is so funny. he’s always ready to receive something delicious

 

[BippidiBoppetyBoob]

He literally threw a dish at Riyozos face 😂

Yeah. But that’s still generally how other characters treat him and he usually will pull back after yelling at everyone other than Yamaoka.

 

[Diabeetiz]

I just wish the sushi restaurants in my country would stop serving these radishes. Most of the non high end stores serve super watery radishes that adds nothing to the fish

 

[tlst9999]

I just wish the sushi restaurants in my country would stop serving these radishes. Most of the non high end stores serve super watery radishes that adds nothing to the fish

The watery daikon radishes aren't for adding to the fish. They're for palate cleansing. You eat a fish, eat some of that daikon to clean your tongue, then eat another fish.

The sushi restaurants do this because the watery daikon is fancier than water.

 

[tlst9999]

his mother wanted Yuzan to shout at her because she didn't want to be treated like an invalid. I believe this is covered much later in more depth.

That reminds me of this clip.

 

[PA270]

Well, Kurita's point is mostly that no one is all good or all bad, and Yamaoka really only has a part of the full story of his parents' marriage. Mainly that his mother wanted Yuzan to shout at her because she didn't want to be treated like an invalid. I believe this is covered much later in more depth.

I think the problem is twofold. First, unlike basically every other character, Kaibara has gotten more developed as the series has gone on, not less. While everyone else has been Flanderized, Kaibara has had his rougher edges sanded down and has gotten increased development, which is frustrating because said increased development has only affected his personality and hasn't yet reached the backstory elements. And second, the idea that an abusive relationship is in any way okay is something that Western audiences are going to reject, and for good reason. So with those combined, we have this situation where Kaibara has become a more rounded and complex character while everyone around him has been reduced to shadows of themselves, all the while the story is actively avoiding retconning the genuinely disturbing and fucked up elements of his marriage to Yamaoka's mother and instead trying to frame the abuse as...well, as something other than abuse. And that's not great storytelling.