Kounai Ren'ai - Vol. 3 Ch. 16

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Never mind.

Much prefer Kizaki getting involved, and then getting Kaede involved from there.

Especially given how the first chapter involved Kaede being confessed to by a student, and then with the background events involving educators being arrested for "getting involved" with their pupils....this could get seriously messy. The admin at the school made it clear they'd bring the hammer down on Kaede if she didn't nip things in the bud before, and Azusa here is seeking to actively harm Nakaoka, so.

I really feel for Kizaki, though. Impressed she'd step up and say something like this just right out the gate, but I don't expect Azusa to come to her senses until it's almost, or perhaps entirely, too late.



Thx for the TL work as always.
 
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The teacher hasn't actually crossed the line right? This is very bad. Like prison bad. Not liking the odds of reaching a good ending for this arc right now 0_0

I would love to see this girl go after the teacher because of the ethics violation rather than just wanting him to herself.
 
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The world of this manga lacks a student code and a staff code of conduct. Rather, the school in which the story is set poorly communicates the boundaries between students and teachers.

The narrative constantly trades logic for pure melodrama; this both infuriates and intrigues me—that's the way of melodrama: heightened emotions result in disastrous consequences as the characters actively ignore reason. An example of this infuriation: the wording of that confrontation sounds like Kizaki sees the art teacher as a love rival rather than recognising the violations committed by the teacher.

The meaning of the work appears to be that teenagers are love-sick idiots who cross boundaries, and that the adults around them should really put a stop to such behaviour, but are either too incompetent or too maudlin to do so.

All in all, these kids need a basic health class, and the teachers belong in court.
 
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The world of this manga lacks a student code and a staff code of conduct. Rather, the school in which the story is set poorly communicates the boundaries between students and teachers.

The narrative constantly trades logic for pure melodrama; this both infuriates and intrigues me—that's the way of melodrama: heightened emotions result in disastrous consequences as the characters actively ignore reason. An example of this infuriation: the wording of that confrontation sounds like Kizaki sees the art teacher as a love rival rather than recognising the violations committed by the teacher.

The meaning of the work appears to be that teenagers are love-sick idiots who cross boundaries, and that the adults around them should really put a stop to such behaviour, but are either too incompetent or too maudlin to do so.

All in all, these kids need a basic health class, and the teachers belong in court

Go back and read the first chapter. We already saw that teachers get punished for relations with students, and the admin lady told Kaede to not do anything stupid because she will face the requisite consequences.

Not saying it's not melodramatic, but we had the foundation set from the beginning, should the author choose to pursue it.
 
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I just can't. After the shit fest of the last arc, this one is just.... whatever.
Where are the gays? I'm tired of the hetero and groomer shit.

Kaede's been in every arc we've seen thus far, along with her girlfriend.

And given she was involved with her own student/teacher situation in the first arc of the story, along with being the main character of the series, I think it's reasonable to assume she'll be part of whatever shakes out here.
 
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this narrative is the most interesting so far, i understand the teacher's jealousy and her want of destruction towards the much more talented KID

this amount of jealousy is vicious, unfortunately for the student, i fear the author might pull a haikei, arishi hi ni saku hanatachi ch 10, which is so sad, he is one of the nicest kid, i'm so sorry for him
 
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God i love the toxicity. I wonder when and how the teachers are going to get involved?
 
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Go back and read the first chapter. We already saw that teachers get punished for relations with students, and the admin lady told Kaede to not do anything stupid because she will face the requisite consequences.
I knew about the first chapter while writing, but there's a difference: the admin woman was emphasising legal prosecution rather than actual prevention. A code of conduct is meant to prevent grooming in the first place, whereas the conversation and the televised arrest were just narrative anchors to establish the stakes if Kaede crosses the line.

That's why the first arc was so messy. Kaede handled the mystery student-admirer's confession incredibly poorly. As a queer woman, she had some sympathy for the girl, but she should've set hard professional boundaries or referred the student to a counsellor. But realistic boundaries don't make for a dramatic and compelling story.

Not saying it's not melodramatic, but we had the foundation set from the beginning, should the author choose to pursue it.
So when it comes to the foundation being set for melodrama, I completely agree; in fact, I knew this manga was melodramatic from the very first chapter and its synopsis. The author has been pursuing melodramatic conventions from the very beginning; it's not new.

I bemoan melodrama for being a cheap way to engage the reader, but really, I enjoy the feeling of wanting to pull my hair out.
 
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I knew about the first chapter while writing, but there's a difference: the admin woman was emphasising legal prosecution rather than actual prevention. A code of conduct is meant to prevent grooming in the first place, whereas the conversation and the televised arrest were just narrative anchors to establish the stakes if Kaede crosses the line.

That's why the first arc was so messy. Kaede handled the mystery student-admirer's confession incredibly poorly. As a queer woman, she had some sympathy for the girl, but she should've set hard professional boundaries or referred the student to a counsellor. But realistic boundaries don't make for a dramatic and compelling story.


So when it comes to the foundation being set for melodrama, I completely agree; in fact, I knew this manga was melodramatic from the very first chapter and its synopsis. The author has been pursuing melodramatic conventions from the very beginning; it's not new.

I bemoan melodrama for being a cheap way to engage the reader, but really, I enjoy the feeling of wanting to pull my hair out.

We also have it established that Kaede isn't taken seriously at all by her students. They literally refer to her by her first name, with either -chan or, graciously, -sensei. And that's partly due to the fact that she's a brand-new teacher, meaning she has that lack of accumulated experience and backbone to establish her position of authority. On top of that, we know she's rather meek just in terms of her personality. She was shy and withdrawn as a student, prone to swallowing her feelings rather than put herself out there--because the one time she did, her crush rejected her, and she wallowed for years before ultimately reconnecting and getting together with her now-girlfriend.

So in that sense, the first arc being messy was consistent with the character representation. And I think that informs how she handles the subsequent situations involving Kuritani and then Nozaki. She also did slightly better by that point, though Nami had to step in with Nozaki at the end, all the same.



All that aside - if this played out realistically, we wouldn't have this manga. Would it be as engaging? Hard to say, as it would be extremely different from the word 'go', as even the first arc with Kaede and the secret student confession would just be her taking the advice of Itaoka, simply ignore the letter, and it would either go away or things would escalate with the student confronting Kaede, upon which she simply turns her down or gets Admin involved.
Sure, there's a chance for development of Kaede's character in some sense, but a lot of it would simply be "sending things up the chain of command" and we'd be getting a story about the rules structure of a school, and not stories about the relationships of the people within the school. Given this is a series about relationships and all the myriad ways they can go well and go sour and be extremely volatile, trying to embed it in a "realistic system" would defeat at least some of the purpose.

And if it was done anyway...well, as I said we wouldn't the story we've been given, and I'd argue it's impossible to say whether it would be better or worse, because of how drastically different it would end up.
 

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