GraPara! - Ch. 133 - A Sultry Night (Censored)

[hugorito420]

I also think 133.5 is the best choice, but I wouldn't be surprised if they end up choosing 129.5 at Airi's request

Probably they will choose 133.5 because of publisher and magazine reasons.I think even Airi thinks that would be dumb to do that.(i talking more about marketing aspect)

 

[VuongOuki]

Maybe the sex scenes between Shinobu and Fumi seem a bit lacking because they might be saving the hotter scenes for chapter 133.5, haha.

 

[CraneBrane]

No I'm with you. The fact we're able to come up with so many theories that fit in line with these characters shows there's many directions KA can go through to better up this manga. It just depends on if she wants to do it.

I've had to defend Sakura myself too cause I don't hate her. I just have pity for her much like you. Even I want a happy ending for her. We want different endings sure but common factors in that regard.

(I dunno if I can believe you about that BL skimming though.)

I think it comes down to a philosophical difference, and that's how someone feels about cheating. To some, like me, cheating on a partner is one of the worst thing someone can do in life.

If you don't feel that way about cheating then it's possible for Sakura to be redeemed. Simple as that, a philosophical difference.

 

[VuongOuki]

I think it comes down to a philosophical difference, and that's how someone feels about cheating. To some, like me, willingly cheating on a partner is one of the worst thing someone can do in life.

If you don't feel that way about cheating then it's possible for Sakura to be redeemed. Simple as that, a philosophical difference.

I agree with you. To me, cheating is the most disgusting behavior in a relationship. Here, Sakura didn't just simply cheat; she also betrayed so many things. She chose to trust people she just met over the one who stood by her side and supported her during her toughest times.

 

[box2024]

Sakura will agree to do the sex scene, and then she'll be tricked by the director into 'special training sessions' and he will have sex with her. Sakura will feel empty because she was deceived, and since Shinobu isn't by her side to give her advice, she will miss him even more. And right at that moment, she will also discover the truth that Shinobu never cheated, and it was her own stupidity that self-destructed everything. She will then completely break down in regret. That is the scenario I want to see )

Sakura likes sex she won't breakdown she will want more.

 

[VuongOuki]

Sakura likes sex she won't breakdown she will want more.

From now on, Sakura might just become a purely sexual character, just like the other girls in the story like Nagi or Mio.

 

[CraneBrane]

I agree with you. To me, cheating is the most disgusting behavior in a relationship. Here, Sakura didn't just simply cheat; she also betrayed so many things. She chose to trust people she just met over the one who stood by her side and supported her during her toughest times.

Of course the cheating is just the tip of the iceberg for all the nasty things Sakura did.

 

[Deadstar230]

In doujin, she's nymphomania. In the real world, she must see the doctor already because she couldn't be like this till she get old. LOL

In the reunion episode, she turned the photo of the MC and his girlfriend face-down and the MC saw it. It signaled her displeasure with his marriage. She skipped his wedding, even though the other two close friends in their group of four attended.

Furthermore, she gave a video call while engaging in a group sex, intending to disrupt the MC. However, the MC simply turned his phone face-down and proceeded to the wedding ceremony.

She is a dog in the manger.

She loves MC a lot. If MC wasn’t a cuck and was actually good in bed while she wasn’t a nympho, him and her would be the ones getting married. I think she has taken the biggest toll though hence the reunion. She is mentally fucked up and I think MC getting married worsened it.

 

[Deadstar230]

Sakura likes sex she won't breakdown she will want more.

She will reach her peak with these sexual roles or either blindly walk into AV and peak there. Either way, you’re right.

By the time she realises the truth. Her descent will begin.

 

[SS-2010]

Love of her life? Iida in the original doujin version of Karami Zakari only loves sex, her relation to Kousei is completely parasitic in it, Iida only got raped once in the doujin version during the spring festival, she becomes such a nymphomanic that every other following event where a slimy fuck try to take advantage of her Iida welcomes it with open arms, any opportunity to have sex is good a time for her by then.

Iida had become so sex crazed that she just stops hanging around her friends and Kousei all the way to graduation, even a lesser nympho like Miiyama felt she was getting left behind and slighted by Iida, no wonder she managed to score a happy ending for herself by realizing marrying your childhood friend is better than ending up as a forever loose slut.

Although I shouldn't rip on Iida too much since Kousei is equally crazy, the guy is a total enabler in the doujin version, a utter loon of a cuckold that never confessed to Iida in a conventional manner either, he would rather ask Iida to continue living for sex encounters to fulfill his cuckold fantasies.

The fact a surprise new development just happened 6 years since the original ending had Kousei move on and marry someone else is ironic in a way, in the end it was Kousei that used Iida and left her as a aimless girl that can only find meaning in having sex for the sake of thrills, Iida did form a connection with Kousei as she hopelessly sends him an orgy live feed the day of his ceremony, but Iida is so gone by then that she can't process real love anymore, just a bizarre wish to feel Kousei still needed her to fulfill his fantasies.

In the end, Iida only loves Kousei in an conventional manner in the Manga remake version where her feelings for him are actually real and she isn't such an insane nympho like her original doujin self.

I've the same and different views as you, it may be because I skimmed the sex scenes in doujin and focused on the inside of the characters. I think Iida in doujin is not a heroine but a villain while Kousei is her victim. Iida was not mind-broken by raping to become a slut but she's sick (nymphomania) without medical treatment from the start (since chapter 1).

Anyway, the latest doujin about the reunion happened 10 years after high school graduation. They said they lost their contact for about 6 years. The characters are at least 27-28 years old now.

Below is my view about the difference of Iida characters in manga and doujin. Ref : https://forums.mangadex.org/threads/grapara-ch-133-a-sultry-night-censored.2684224/post-30565591

The Iida characters of Karami Zakari in manga and doujin are different in details.

In manga, she's an ordinary girl who is easy to anyone. She did it to spite her strict mom and wanted to be needed by men due to the absence of a father since childhood. So, when she became the MC's girlfriend, she never had sex with anyone anymore and also continued though they broke up. She truly love the MC though he was unaware of it. She keeps telling him her fake sex experiences to continue having him around. The MC selected her over a good girl who looks like her. I don't think it's NTR because the MC belonged to no one when that girl asked him out (he rejected her before having sex).

In doujin, she's nymphomania. She's an abnormal girl who had sex with anyone because she's sick but never went to have a medical treatment. She even told the MC that she had sex with strangers met online because her boyfriend did not satisfy her! She was interested in the MC but not strong enough to enter a relationship and the MC also knew she's nymphomania. After the MC confessed his cuckold fetish, she began sharing details of her sexual encounters with him until they gradually drifted apart over time. They're close childhood friends (there are four members).

and https://forums.mangadex.org/threads/grapara-ch-133-a-sultry-night-censored.2684224/post-30565816

In doujin, she's nymphomania. In the real world, she must see the doctor already because she couldn't be like this till she get old. LOL

In the reunion episode, she turned the photo of the MC and his girlfriend face-down and the MC saw it. It signaled her displeasure with his marriage. She skipped his wedding, even though the other two close friends in their group of four attended.

Furthermore, she gave a video call while engaging in a group sex, intending to disrupt the MC. However, the MC simply turned his phone face-down and proceeded to the wedding ceremony.

She is a dog in the manger.

 

[SS-2010]

She loves MC a lot. If MC wasn’t a cuck and was actually good in bed while she wasn’t a nympho, him and her would be the ones getting married. I think she has taken the biggest toll though hence the reunion. She is mentally fucked up and I think MC getting married worsened it.

I don't think Iida in doujin loves the MC the same way as Iida in manga. Iida in manga is totally different, she can stop having sex immediately. But Iida in doujin always want to have sex, she refuses no one and every men in school know it. In doujin, she also told the MC she's cheating with online strangers because her boyfriend in college didn't satisfy her. So, if she became the MC's girlfriend, she wouldn't stop!!!

Pal, you've mixed Iida in manga with Iida in doujin.

Manga version belongs to another author by a permission of Airi Katsura. That author modified Karami Zakari to be on her own way and change the characters in details.

 

[SS-2010]

In her last romance she gave the mc a good ending(in her own way).And i don't take seriouly that thing that she told about write something different because she never made any inonative idea with her stories.

I think she meant "Sakura will be the first ever (and the last) FMC who get raped (or slept with another man) in "LOVE COMEDY" manga, not just in doujin" !!!

Did Airi Katsura (sensei) forget what is "comedy" or her definition of comedy may be opposite to normal people? LOL

 

[Gravtos]

That is true,for me Sakura didn't have any real development over 133 chapters.She still stupid,weak minded,guillable and immature.

Most of her choices was by others to make it for her, she have only 2 decisions at till now was when she gives up at first time and returns home but then Shinobu gets her back. Other stuff was acting consuel with director and Toppy scenes(for me was most worst than chapter129). And even how to react the Fumi kissing Shinobu she asks Fuckboi what to do.. she's like a puppet without will just to get used all this time.

 

[SS-2010]

I mean to be fair with Airi,the karami zakari fmc(in the manga) was just crazy but she was loyal to the mc and i fond another manga of her that is called "I tried to live with a godess for year" and it was a very suprise reading for me because it was not a bad writing as i tought because it was a good romance and story(with many echii) and also had a happy ending for the mc and fmc.

What i'm talking is that your point is correct but only with her donjinshis,in the mangas i do boldly say that Sakura is worst of them by miles,Chisa that is the fmc of that story i told and Lida in the manga of Karumi Zakari at least didn't cheat on their mcs(once again i'm talking about Karami Zakari manga) and didn't do such bad things like Sakura.

FYI, about Karami Zakari manga version, I'd not give Airi Katsura (sensei) much credit because the story was written and illustrated by Kei Miike sensei.

KM sensei did say s/he modified Karami Zakari to be his/her own story by the approval of Airi Katsura (sensei). So, AK (sensei) just approved his/her modification, not thinking for him/her like Grapara. AK (sensei) being named in the manga version just because she hold the license of the original story.

So, AK (sensei) really is the author of Grapara and I Tried Living With a Goddess For a Year (Megami to Ichinen Kurashitemita) and we can see whether she's a good or bad writer from these only two mangas, not three mangas.

To be informed, @CraneBrane and @Alsatia

 

[Wyrm666]

Okay so. If I had to be realistic and think of how Airi would go about this.

Shinobu is going to tell his boss he needs to think on it OR talk to Fumi about it to see if she's okay with it. The producer may not like the answer but he'll accept it.

Fumi upon hearing of this will be unsure, but choose to do it so long as Shinobu is present Incase anything goes wrong.

Expected bait happens, Shinobu likely saving Fumi again. Movie is done.

On Sakura's end..
She accepts the sex scene offer. How she accepts it is anyone's guess, but the end result is the same.

She acts the movie. Plays the sex scene. Sakura feels good. REALLY good. No sex but heavy foreplay when it comes to touching. She's seen as a natural. Gets praise for it, encouraged to do more. She feels good about it.

What a coincidence!! Shinobu's movie is another success! Producer says it's due to the nude scene. Wants Shinobu to do another movie with a sex scene. Fumi is unsure of this one so doesn't want to partake in it.

THIS gives the opening for Sakura and Shinobu to meet. With Sakura riding that high from the first scene.

Your prediction makes sense and it's logical. Hence, it has 0% chance of actually happening.

 

[SS-2010]

One think that i came to conclusion that Sakura is the worst of FMC by miles of all 3 mangas she released(once again i'm talking about her MANGAS)

Sorry for very late reply. AK (sensei) is the author of only 2 mangas. They're Grapara (ongoing, lastest chapter 133) and I Tried Living WIth A Goddess For A Year (completed with 28 chapters, 2 volumes ...)

 

[diphuc1]

FYI, about Karami Zakari manga version, I'd not give Airi Katsura (sensei) much credit because the story was written and illustrated by Miike Kei sensei.

MK sensei did say s/he modified Karami Zakari to be his/her own story by the approval of Airi Katsura (sensei). So, AK (sensei) just approved his/her modification, not thinking for her like Grapara. AK (sensei) being named in the manga version just because she hold the license of the original story.

So, AK (sensei) is the author of Grapara and I Tried Living With a Goddess For a Year (Megami to Ichinen Kurashitemita) and we can see whether she's a good or bad writer from these only two mangas.

Thanks for clarifying on he Karami manga part. I was aware there was another creator involved, tbf though the changes to the manga version while interesting ultimately barely mattered. Akaneya was such a good character but MC wasted his chance to grow, and the "wholesome" twist to the ending was nice but the manga was still 80% the same as the og source imo.

 

[Wyrm666]

The fact a surprise new development just happened 6 years since the original ending had Kousei move on and marry someone else is ironic in a way, in the end it was Kousei that used Iida and left her as a aimless girl that can only find meaning in having sex for the sake of thrills, Iida did form a connection with Kousei as she hopelessly sends him an orgy live feed the day of his ceremony, but Iida is so gone by then that she can't process real love anymore, just a bizarre wish to feel Kousei still needed her to fulfill his fantasies.

It's actually tragic and people saying Iida had a good ending are out of their minds.

 

[Wyrm666]

But hell, some mangakas shine bright from shit. Just look at the mangaka for Don't toy with me Nagatoro. Dude was a hentai writer and the shit he did had beastiality.

That was for me a "uh, he did hentai? let me do a search an SWEETMOTHEROFCHRISTALMIGHTYTAKEAWAYMYEYES" moment...

 

[Goukenimaru]

It's actually tragic and people saying Iida had a good ending are out of their minds.

It was her choice, I don't feel sorry for her, the same way Kousei was an odd individual that never pursued a normal love life with Iida, just enabling her endless sex escapades to fulfill his cuckold desires.

Iida consciously chose to seek endless sex experiences out of her own accord in the doujin version, not once she had a honest conversation with anyone about wishing for a normal love life or anything of sorts, in the doujin version she literally stops hanging out with Kousei, Takashi and Miiyama for a while.

Iida's fate now only looks tragic due Katsura Airi coming out 6 years since the original ending to decide Kousei can move on from Iida after all, so the bizarre future they had together as mutual benefit friends was erased, and Iida in the last minute shows she did form some attachment to Kousei after all as she sends one last video stream of her orgies the day of his wedding, as if trying to get his attention at the last second.

Only the manga version of Iida is someone I would feel sorry for, there she unarguably loves Kousei but the guy is just as damaged, so she thought she had to feed his fantasies in order to be with him, yet only tells fabricated tales of her experiences to please him, showing this version of Iida actually can chose Kousei over having sex, something that the original doujin Iida is never seen to be capable of doing.