A Mother's Love, a Daughter's Prison
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the dad, grandmother, the former teacher
all are the problems
same as the daughter for not being able to grow a spine
sure i feel sad for the Fmc but even after 'being an adult'
she was the same,. hard to sympathize too much with the pathetic attempts of running away
and why not go to the police with all the evidence and she could corroborate the story with past classmates and former teacher
as for the mother, probably later down the story it will be revealed that she was like that because of her mother
thats why she was lying & trying the make the daughter into a doctor
so she could please her mom or whatever similar backstory
all are the problems
same as the daughter for not being able to grow a spine
sure i feel sad for the Fmc but even after 'being an adult'
she was the same,. hard to sympathize too much with the pathetic attempts of running away
and why not go to the police with all the evidence and she could corroborate the story with past classmates and former teacher
as for the mother, probably later down the story it will be revealed that she was like that because of her mother
thats why she was lying & trying the make the daughter into a doctor
so she could please her mom or whatever similar backstory
Seems a bit of a stretch to blame a child for not being able to grow properly in an abusive household
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At what point can you blame her?
I even mentioned 'being an adult,' but it wasn't good for you
Should you give another 20-year grace period?
Should I judge her when she is 40 and think about why she is still living with her and accepting abuse?
She had evidence and could just run away...
She wouldn't have ended up killing her mother nor be in jail
going to the police, the professor, her dad, or anything else...
Options were there...
And the main thing is that she was defiant to her mother in many situations...
oh well
You can very much permanently break a person and prevent them from ever developing what they'd need to survive or grow by systematically abusing them as a child. It's not simply a matter of enough time passing.
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Sure, but that was not the case in this story.
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Killing and dismembering someone and being able to smile and say that they still love them doesn't seem to me to be the behavior of someone who was able to develop properly.
She tries to play at running away, 'fix' her grades, get into another university. But that is not her rebelling, she cannot break free, 17 years of abuse up to that point have seen to that.
She is just trying to avoid punishment.
You clearly cannot understand how much your formative years can fuck you up mentally.
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Aww that is so cute she couldn't break free
You just wanna excuse everything and clearly cannot fathom her talking any other action.. and even if she did, she was abused, brain stops...
oh well
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You do know that this is based on something that really happened, right? The things shown aren't authorial fancies, but the best attempt at showing real events.
I recommend reading this article for context: https://www.yuroblog.site/kiryu-nozomi-genzai/
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Yes, I know, and that is what makes it much worse.
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holy underrated gem. super fascinating portrayal of trauma and abuse.
and she did try to escape, but her mother hunted her down and tore down any chance she had. she doesnt have any other family she can really run to (grandma is in close contact with mom and dad is a major pushover), her mother is restricting her contact with the world, not to mention shes been broken down and conditioned for so long.
theres something called learned helplessness, if you teach a puppy that nothing they can do will stop them from being shocked, they will eventually stop trying and accept it. hikari was taught by her mother that if she disobeyed or tried to escape she would be severely beaten, berated, abused, and tortured. unsurprisingly, this fucks up the brain!
because she felt she had no other option (and at this point, despite loving her, im not even sure she was fully seeing her mother as "human" but instead a "monster" or something evil to overcome), she came to the conclusion that if she were to murder her mother, she would be able to escape the abuse. she came to this conclusion because she had been taught by her mother that there is no other escape and that she will find her no matter what she tries to do. even if there were ways she could have escaped, her brain was so fried by the constant abuse and she had already had this learned helplessness literally beaten into her that the only option she could think to do is to eliminate the threat, to murder her mother.
i think it's entirely unfair to say that she was at fault because it completely ignores just how horrific the abuse she went through was. like, she was regularly beaten with a metal pipe, made to stay up through the night, had minimal privacy, constantly abused and berated for anything she did, her mother literally hired someone to chase after her and bring her home one of the times she tried to be independent. you cannot expect someone who has been tortured this badly for this long to think rationally or simply be able to up and run away.
and she did try to escape, but her mother hunted her down and tore down any chance she had. she doesnt have any other family she can really run to (grandma is in close contact with mom and dad is a major pushover), her mother is restricting her contact with the world, not to mention shes been broken down and conditioned for so long.
theres something called learned helplessness, if you teach a puppy that nothing they can do will stop them from being shocked, they will eventually stop trying and accept it. hikari was taught by her mother that if she disobeyed or tried to escape she would be severely beaten, berated, abused, and tortured. unsurprisingly, this fucks up the brain!
because she felt she had no other option (and at this point, despite loving her, im not even sure she was fully seeing her mother as "human" but instead a "monster" or something evil to overcome), she came to the conclusion that if she were to murder her mother, she would be able to escape the abuse. she came to this conclusion because she had been taught by her mother that there is no other escape and that she will find her no matter what she tries to do. even if there were ways she could have escaped, her brain was so fried by the constant abuse and she had already had this learned helplessness literally beaten into her that the only option she could think to do is to eliminate the threat, to murder her mother.
i think it's entirely unfair to say that she was at fault because it completely ignores just how horrific the abuse she went through was. like, she was regularly beaten with a metal pipe, made to stay up through the night, had minimal privacy, constantly abused and berated for anything she did, her mother literally hired someone to chase after her and bring her home one of the times she tried to be independent. you cannot expect someone who has been tortured this badly for this long to think rationally or simply be able to up and run away.
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