A Splendid Revenge Story of a Super-Dreadnought Cheat Villainess - Vol. 8 Ch. 30 - Sacred Beast Pukuru

[Lunasol]

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Bad choice, The world get a bad ending because demon lord destroys EVERYTHING.

 

[Lunasol]

...or 3rd choice, don't give up and beat the shit out of that bitch!!

Where is the 3rd choice?

Spoiler: The next chapter spoiler

Nevermind, She found it. By forced open the third choice.

 

[isoycrazy]

Pukuru, poor creature evolving from hatred over love.

 

[Nehona]

Aside from the weird turn of events (which I don't necessarily hate, it's just kinda weird...)

I wanted to point out... how completely dumb this "saintess" is.

"Yeah I'm not full power but I'm tired and can't be bothered" <-- like what? Let's assume this is true...
I've never seen anyone as dumb as you. You can't be arsed to go full power? When you pulled a full GO-EVIL and are going to escape, but you're tired so nah let's fight half assed?

I almost want to see Lunaria summon the demon lord, but in the end most of the people here didn't really do anything wrong so no.

 

[bodohbayar]

Aside from the weird turn of events (which I don't necessarily hate, it's just kinda weird...)

I wanted to point out... how completely dumb this "saintess" is.

"Yeah I'm not full power but I'm tired and can't be bothered" <-- like what? Let's assume this is true...
I've never seen anyone as dumb as you. You can't be arsed to go full power? When you pulled a full GO-EVIL and are going to escape, but you're tired so nah let's fight half assed?

I almost want to see Lunaria summon the demon lord, but in the end most of the people here didn't really do anything wrong so no.

its just trash talking lol

 

[Xonthelon]

If the saint's sacred beast looks like that transformed, I wonder how Lunaria's demon lord will appear.

 

[Serverclosed]

She has no more option that summon it. I mean, she admit she cant win otherwise.

 

[qaaj]

Explaining all the ass pulls as the world filling in its own plot holes is crazy work.

Like yeah, okay, author. It still undermines your story when your protagonist has to rely on equally contrived circumstances to come out ahead.

 

[UdenEmpati]

the fact that shes going to such extreme lengths to make Lunaria the villain shows that she knows what the conditions for the Princess Ending are, plus she knows who the other capture targets are too

I could see an argument that Mana is still a "aspect" of this world, but like the player-controlled protagonist of the game version, she is effectively "programmed" to obtain what is considered the optimal route, i.e. the most-complete "ending" possible. Generally, that would be the route that includes the most captured romance targets/allies, the most powerful items & end-state of the protagonist, and the complete destruction of all "enemies" to the protagonist, whatever form they may take - so that she acquires the "happy ending", at least from her own perspective.

If that is the case, then Mana having all that seeming meta-knowledge is another example of the world filling in the gaps of the game's story and mechanics. It's not that she's an outside entity coming into a gameworld-made-real, but the gameworld itself aligning with what the protagonist-made-flesh would require to achieve the optimal ending, including knowledge and skills and insight that merely appears "meta".

And if you consider Lunaria herself to be the anomaly in an otherwise normally-running system, she's the reason things are running off-script. The prompts she gets at key points are a means of forcing choices that the system itself can account for and incorporate into its larger script, which is why reality freezes until she makes a selection - she's only allowed so much free will and agency to act, and when things get too "off-script" for the world and system and story, it attempts to force her back onto the predetermined path.

 

[Forikorder]

I could see an argument that Mana is still a "aspect" of this world, but like the player-controlled protagonist of the game version, she is effectively "programmed" to obtain what is considered the optimal route, i.e. the most-complete "ending" possible. Generally, that would be the route that includes the most captured romance targets/allies, the most powerful items & end-state of the protagonist, and the complete destruction of all "enemies" to the protagonist, whatever form they may take - so that she acquires the "happy ending", at least from her own perspective.

If that is the case, then Mana having all that seeming meta-knowledge is another example of the world filling in the gaps of the game's story and mechanics. It's not that she's an outside entity coming into a gameworld-made-real, but the gameworld itself aligning with what the protagonist-made-flesh would require to achieve the optimal ending, including knowledge and skills and insight that merely appears "meta".

And if you consider Lunaria herself to be the anomaly in an otherwise normally-running system, she's the reason things are running off-script. The prompts she gets at key points are a means of forcing choices that the system itself can account for and incorporate into its larger script, which is why reality freezes until she makes a selection - she's only allowed so much free will and agency to act, and when things get too "off-script" for the world and system and story, it attempts to force her back onto the predetermined path.

she knew events that didnt happen, like accused lunaria of the magical catastrophe that she didnt do, she also went against the actual plot by getting too friendly with Dale too fast

 

[outinthegardener]

"Summon the Demon Lord and destroy the capital" seems like a misdirect. If Mana's sacred beast reflects Mana's evil personality, would the Demon Lord reflect Lunaria's "Not evil but gets shit done" personality? I expect the demon lord to be a secret route hottie, or a cute imouto, or something tropey.

 

[UdenEmpati]

she knew events that didnt happen, like accused lunaria of the magical catastrophe that she didnt do, she also went against the actual plot by getting too friendly with Dale too fast

That would depend on whether the magical catastrophe was supposed to happen according to the world-script, and Mana was operating under the assumption that it had. But because Lunaria is actually a reincarnator and had the agency/will to change that event, it went off-script but not in a way "predicted/accounted for" in subsequent interactions with characters like Mana.

It would depend on what you mean by "too friendly too fast", because it's been awhile since I read those chapters, so I can't comment on that.

That all said - I'm of the opinion that Mana is also a reincarnator and not some weird optimized NPC with something like "sysadmin-level knowledge" within the setting. But the argument that she were, isn't completely unfounded.
But it all makes more sense for her to simply be the same as Lunaria, including the chapters we get of her POV talking to her familiar and stuff.

 

[Seetee]

Thank you for the translation!

So... summon the demon lord and let it possess her body? Or are we introduced to a new character? Will the capital be destroyed by the demon lords will, or as a result of fighting the evil saint? The answer to these questions are quite significant for the progress of the story.

 

[tseng]

rushing to an end i see, axed this time as well? these chapters have been soo short lately :/

This is already more content than the LN/webnovel (not sure which) had.

Yeah sorta, same events but expanded alot with how barebones the WN was, aside that this got a manga original 2nd part after it completed the WN, so it did pretty well

 

[DarkHel_Prime]

actual clown shoes comment

Is it? Literally sold the entire premise of the story through having a protagonist blow through opposition as a "super-dreadnought" and "cheat villainess". I can understand making the saintess a challenge, but pulling bullshit after bullshit to make her an invincible final boss needing YET another twist for the protag to win... That's Naruto (specifically, the 4th shinobi war arc) levels of shitty writing. There was no need for this after a protracted 'trial' like the one we slogged through.

 

[Forikorder]

Is it? Literally sold the entire premise of the story through having a protagonist blow through opposition as a "super-dreadnought" and "cheat villainess". I can understand making the saintess a challenge, but pulling bullshit after bullshit to make her an invincible final boss needing YET another twist for the protag to win... That's Naruto (specifically, the 4th shinobi war arc) levels of shitty writing. There was no need for this after a protracted 'trial' like the one we slogged through.

shouldnt the assumption have been that the saint was just as much of a cheat character being the main character?

 

[DarkHel_Prime]

shouldnt the assumption have been that the saint was just as much of a cheat character being the main character?

Yeah, AS MUCH. As it stands, the MC is literally told "you're going to die lol, leave it to the demon lord". Not really that much of an even battle, no?
Hopefully, and considering the cover, this won't go exactly that way, but you get what I'm saying, right?

 

[bot]

Thank you for the translation!

So... summon the demon lord and let it possess her body? Or are we introduced to a new character? Will the capital be destroyed by the demon lords will, or as a result of fighting the evil saint? The answer to these questions are quite significant for the progress of the story.

Spoiler: if your curious...

the demon lord is the one that gets possessed by the mc's soul after system kun gets torn a second arsehole to make it able to happen. then the shitty saint gets her just dues when she cant acept the following results.

 

[Forikorder]

Yeah, AS MUCH. As it stands, the MC is literally told "you're going to die lol, leave it to the demon lord". Not really that much of an even battle, no?
Hopefully, and considering the cover, this won't go exactly that way, but you get what I'm saying, right?

weve seen the battle though, she is fighting the saint evenly is just being pressured

 

[Mangon]

Force a Third Option!!!!!