Ad Astra - Scipio and Hannibal - Vol. 13 Ch. 79 - Battle of Zama: Secret Tactic

[MangaDex]

 

[strider_01]

CARTHAGO DELENDA EST

 

[zanonyn]

Thanks for another chapter! I wonder how much we'll see crammed into the final two, the harsh treaty but also Scipio's Triumph and perhaps a bit of the later years of how he and Hannibal ultimately ended up.

 

[robot1840]

@strider_01 not now my friend, not now

 

[Nihilist1]

I know I have said it before but I'm still not used to the depiction of the Libyan troops here, they were equipped and fought like the greeks. If anything they had more resemblance with the romans compared to the employed regional mercenaries.

 

[rrolo1]

So, now Silenos is the MC, ordering Hannibal and everything? :/

Anyway, it seems I was right in the last chapter when I said the author either misunderstood the battle of Zama or was skewing things to make Scipio look better than Hannibal by making Hannibal act less smart than IRL ( with the side effect of making Scipio to look like an insuferable and smug Mary Sue ). It was Hannibal that tried to envelop the Romans, not the other way around, for heavens sake

 

[agtra]

CARTHAGO DELENDA EST

 

[runche]

I feel Cartaginas are gonna go full Kingdom, and go for enemy general head!

 

[Yiledute]

@runche

I mean, taking down HQ or at least cutting down the communication line between it and the battling army is not so much a strategy but a basic requirement to win in the cleanest and fastest way possible. That is how wars are fought now a days: single almost suicidal and secret missions to kill the leaders and brains of the opposite faction, without actually marching to the field of battle.

 

[deltarayedge]

Yeah this withered old man is doing everything not hannibal, who listens to him like some squire boy

Author really threw the ball, hannibal's been on a cheap losing streak since cannae. Rooting for the carthagians became impossible unlike before where you could root for either side.

None of the nuaniaced details that lead to his losses. No he just loses easily while scipico wins easily and is a smug jerk.

 

[supermoonchrome]

@deltarayedge
seething non-roman

 

[RadioForrest]

@supermoonchrome
based. a true son of rome

 

[cupidline]

What I hate about this is if the situation is reversed, I would never think Scipio will ever win against Hannibal.

Scipio has time to learn while Hannibal didn't even get support from his country.

Hannibal is a great general but a bad politician led him to defeat

 

[rrolo1]

@deltarayedge

The author took his Lybian look from the Egyptian representation of them ... from the times of Rameses III and the Sea People invasions, a full millenium before the 2nd Punic war :/ . It is like making a manga of the Falklands/Maldivs war and putting longbows and Knights along Harriers

 

[deltarayedge]

@supermoonchrome

i felt literally nothing during either of their pre battle speeches, it was as dry as it could get
i almost giggled when he called hannibal a natural calamity, he stopped being so threatening 20 chapters ago

 

[Grimmycoffee]

Other than recognizing the value of his generals as more than just a pawn to be used, Hannibal is pretty much all out of option.

Most of his major achievements rely heavily on the Numidian cavs, which is something he doesn't have anymore.

Giving more detail to the strategy around this might give a bit more nuance (at the risk of making a useless heavy exposition that's just a bore to read), but Carthage is basically fucked ever since they loss the Iberian peninsula. If the start of the manga is Rome's losing streak, then the ending is Carthage's.