Akuyaku Reijou wa Slow Life wo Enjoy Shitai! ~Yatto Kon'yaku Hakisareta no ni, Daini Ouji ga Meccha Stalker Shitekurun desu kedo~ - Vol. 1 Ch. 2

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I've thought about this before, but why are readers so adverse to characters getting redemption? It's not like the 2nd prince was an irredeemable trash, he simply believed what his brother has said.

And is it not a good thing if he wakes up from this idiocy and changes for the better?
 
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I've thought about this before, but why are readers so adverse to characters getting redemption? It's not like the 2nd prince was an irredeemable trash, he simply believed what his brother has said.

And is it not a good thing if he wakes up from this idiocy and changes for the better?
A good question! Based on what I’ve seen and heard, people are less satisfied when the character getting a redemption arc begins as a 100% asshole without anything likable about them. People are more likely to cheer on a redeemed character if the potential to change is already shown.

For example, one of the most well-known redemption arc in media is Zuko from ATLA. He acts as an aggressive, short-tempered guy during the first episode, but he also leaves the village alone when he captures his target (instead of burning everyone to a crisp like another warlord would) and has some good moments with his uncle. Every episode with Zuko after that proves he’s more than earned his redemption by being a layered, but humble and honorable human.

For me personally, I think it’s more redemption arc fatigue? So much media nowadays have redemption arcs for a number of characters and I’m just tired lol 😂 I do hope the 2nd prince has a good arc though! He seems honorable enough and could be fun to watch if he goes to the farm…
 
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I've thought about this before, but why are readers so adverse to characters getting redemption? It's not like the 2nd prince was an irredeemable trash, he simply believed what his brother has said.

And is it not a good thing if he wakes up from this idiocy and changes for the better?

Adding in my own two cents here, there's also a fatigue about people being offered redemption while they're still 100% asshole, and, moderately predictably, they don't take it. Or "redemptions" that involve the people staying shitty (the most complained about example being "Sometimes I Wish You Were Dead", which, among (many) complaints people have about it, ends with a "happy ending" the ML definitely does not deserve, having given non-apology after non-apology, after some extremely shitty behaviour)

Honestly, the "upright to the point of blindness/stick-up-their-ass" characters usually have better ones than usual when it pans out, and it does pan out more often than not (usually with an actual apology for their behaviour up til now), so it's not so much "redemption arc" at this early point, as "He screwed up once, and is likely to course correct quickly precisely because he's a justice-type."

The slow life remains out of reach. Although at least her parents support the idea?
 
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I've thought about this before, but why are readers so adverse to characters getting redemption? It's not like the 2nd prince was an irredeemable trash, he simply believed what his brother has said.

And is it not a good thing if he wakes up from this idiocy and changes for the better?
Most of the time the redemption granted by the author isn't earned. As I said the first and foremost thing he'd need to do is apologize. He behaved in a manner completely unbefitting his position and the situation.

What pissed me personally off the most was him asking why she had prepared so many time crystals - while she had to use each and every one of them to protect herself from being framed.
That situation right there is exactly why. And the author even uses that to make him look smart.
 
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Most of the time the redemption granted by the author isn't earned. As I said the first and foremost thing he'd need to do is apologize. He behaved in a manner completely unbefitting his position and the situation.

What pissed me personally off the most was him asking why she had prepared so many time crystals - while she had to use each and every one of them to protect herself from being framed.
That situation right there is exactly why. And the author even uses that to make him look smart.
I reread the synopsis, and apparently he’s actually more concerned about how powerful she is and that her strength combined with her parents’ influence could be the start of a revenge plot against the royal family. So in some sense I get why he’s being a pain in the behind but it’s still annoying to see.
 
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A good question! Based on what I’ve seen and heard, people are less satisfied when the character getting a redemption arc begins as a 100% asshole without anything likable about them. People are more likely to cheer on a redeemed character if the potential to change is already shown.

For example, one of the most well-known redemption arc in media is Zuko from ATLA. He acts as an aggressive, short-tempered guy during the first episode, but he also leaves the village alone when he captures his target (instead of burning everyone to a crisp like another warlord would) and has some good moments with his uncle. Every episode with Zuko after that proves he’s more than earned his redemption by being a layered, but humble and honorable human.

For me personally, I think it’s more redemption arc fatigue? So much media nowadays have redemption arcs for a number of characters and I’m just tired lol 😂 I do hope the 2nd prince has a good arc though! He seems honorable enough and could be fun to watch if he goes to the farm…
I would argue that Zuko is not exactly a great example of this. In most manga we do not see the other side often, so we do not get glimpses of them being a non asshole/not evil. Zuko we got plenty of moments where he can develop as a character. A lot of times for these redemption arcs we are not seeing the other characters good side, so it makes them less of a character and more of an archetype, which I think people are less willing to forgive.
 
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I need stories where like the vampire one from earlier where the so-called villainess extinguishes the royals for their foolishness
 
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I've thought about this before, but why are readers so adverse to characters getting redemption? It's not like the 2nd prince was an irredeemable trash, he simply believed what his brother has said.

And is it not a good thing if he wakes up from this idiocy and changes for the better?
It isn't that he's irredeemable trash. My problem with people like him is his prejudices. He still thinks that the girl had something plotted. His biases and prejudices just made his redemption, or attempts of it, into something which would just make him feel good and look good in other people's eyes. In other word, insincerity. And it made his apologies feel empty, just for the sake of appearances.
While it's true that she did go too far, there's also a reason for this; The 1st Prince, Christopher's attitude, pride, ego, and the heroine's plots. They always attempted to make her look bad and villainous, and even spread false rumours here and there. This is why she prepared those since it felt.... somehow dangerous and sinister? To me it looks like she just prepared an umbrella before it rains. How is this something one would consider as the plot to make the royal family look bad? This is why the 2nd Prince feels like, I dunno.... prejudiced? He never actually investigated anything about his brother's claims, yet just said that she went too far when she was just providing evidences.
Should this be happening in court of Justice, how would the judge, jury, and prosecutor even see this? The evidences the 1st Prince and the heroine provided to frame her were flimsy, and she, Sylvie, provided a bunch of grounded evidences and arguments. Yet the 2nd Prince, Edgar, still did all of that? Supporting the baseless accusations his brother aimed at Sylvie, and after it was proven that she did nothing wrong, Edgar still thinks that she must be plotting something. Rather than annoying, it kind of feels like he's a total dumbass who needs to learn a lot of things.
 

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