Alcohol and Ogre-girls - Ch. 50

[Roodypatooti]

thanks for proving the point by saying you cant understand simple arguments on human nature

meat automata truly are a source of infinite comedy when punched

You could win an award for media illiteracy, like it's actually impressive to me how completely empty your head is. It's especially comical how you keep calling people P-Zombies, excuse me, Meat Automata, seeing as you're so thoughtless and lacking in basic reading comprehension I'm struggling to believe you're even a conscious being, and not just some kinda terrible robot created to spew misogyny on the internet.

 

[Manchura]

You could win an award for media illiteracy, like it's actually impressive to me how completely empty your head is. It's especially comical how you keep calling people P-Zombies, excuse me, Meat Automata, seeing as you're so thoughtless and lacking in basic reading comprehension I'm struggling to believe you're even a conscious being, and not just some kinda terrible robot created to spew misogyny on the internet.

there it is again, the one programed answer being thrown out again in a vain attempt to seem acceptable after I posted multiple independently worded counter arguments to the meat automata, pathetic

go fail to kill anyone bombing an IVF clinic (dont actually do this, it is meant to insult the nature of the position meat automata define as socially acceptable in modern times) or a comparably pathetic action like the rest of your inevitably goose stepping ilk end up doing

(also love the misuse of P zombie, very on brand of a meat automata to misuse the theory of "one individual in a world unknown to itself being fooled by fakes" to prove it aint an unthinking machine that has a short list of answers to life's problems )

 

[Orangechrisy]

thanks for proving the point by saying you cant understand simple arguments on human nature

meat automata truly are a source of infinite comedy when punched

Did you know that not everyone wants children and that's okay? Like I personally really don't want children, I'm uncomfortable with the thought of having one. But like, I don't care if others have children, that's their decision to make, most people do want children and that's perfectly fine. But people are not no longer human just because they don't want kids. That is an utterly insane argument to make. Please, I beg of you, go outside.

 

[deathpigeon]

Did you know that not everyone wants children and that's okay? Like I personally really don't want children, I'm uncomfortable with the thought of having one. But like, I don't care if others have children, that's their decision to make, most people do want children and that's perfectly fine. But people are not no longer human just because they don't want kids. That is an utterly insane argument to make. Please, I beg of you, go outside.

it's such projection for them to see people being ok with someone not wanting to have kids and to read that as a hatred of people who have kids.

the fact of the matter is that, honestly, most people who do want kids don't give a shit if you don't, it's just freaks like that guy who think that it's some moral failing or that it's always a mask for secretly wanting kids.

 

[Manchura]

Did you know that not everyone wants children and that's okay? Like I personally really don't want children, I'm uncomfortable with the thought of having one. But like, I don't care if others have children, that's their decision to make, most people do want children and that's perfectly fine. But people are not no longer human just because they don't want kids. That is an utterly insane argument to make. Please, I beg of you, go outside.

I didn't say they aren't human, they are just aren't being human and defy their natural human processes... here, let me simplify it for your unthinking mind:

humans have innate instincts and thoughts like the one to have kids or practice parental instincts... even meat automata saying they dont DO want kids(we all know they will get a pet and act like that's their baby to cope with the disconnect between meat automata programing and their very human mind screaming at them to be sensible). Meat automata bypass the human part of the brain because they rely on socially accepted outcomes that are pre determined to set their entire life up. This means that meat automata are actively muting what their brain tells them is correct or what they desire when it doesn't line up with the pre-determined outcome, some examples:

man rapes girl? bad, but if man says he is a woman... meat automata says it's not bad and he should be given probation because a man saying he is a woman is the socially accepted standard

someone bombs a medical center servicing abortions? terrorism, now if the person bombed an IVF clinic... it's a good thing because life needs to end on this planet because life cant consent to the cruelty of reality says the meat automata (this just happened)

genocide is bad, unless the people committing it is a communist (and to a lesser extent fascist) government, because it is socially accepted to show favor to socialist states as proven by the number of meat automata who constantly question if the holodomor happened, think the holocaust should have been allowed to save Palestine, think the uyghur genocide is a myth, and most recently deny any whites in africa are being killed because of their race

 

[Orangechrisy]

I didn't say they aren't human, they are just aren't being human and defy their natural human processes... here, let me simplify it for your unthinking mind:

humans have innate instincts and thoughts like the one to have kids or practice parental instincts... even meat automata saying they dont DO want kids(we all know they will get a pet and act like that's their baby to cope with the disconnect between meat automata programing and their very human mind screaming at them to be sensible). Meat automata bypass the human part of the brain because they rely on socially accepted outcomes that are pre determined to set their entire life up. This means that meat automata are actively muting what their brain tells them is correct or what they desire when it doesn't line up with the pre-determined outcome, some examples:

man rapes girl? bad, but if man says he is a woman... meat automata says it's not bad and he should be given probation because a man saying he is a woman is the socially accepted standard

someone bombs a medical center servicing abortions? terrorism, now if the person bombed an IVF clinic... it's a good thing because life needs to end on this planet because life cant consent to the cruelty of reality says the meat automata (this just happened)

genocide is bad, unless the people committing it is a communist (and to a lesser extent fascist) government, because it is socially accepted to show favor to socialist states as proven by the number of meat automata who constantly question if the holodomor happened, think the holocaust should have been allowed to save Palestine, think the uyghur genocide is a myth, and most recently deny any whites in africa are being killed because of their race

What in the absolute fuck are you talking about? Why are you reading a manga about lesbians?

 

[Manchura]

What in the absolute fuck are you talking about? Why are you reading a manga about lesbians?

I was correcting your lack of understanding and thinking that because I know about reality unlike you means I shouldn't be reading yuri is bafflingly stupid on your part...

but then again listening to women when she says what she feels but it doesn't line up with meat automata's pre-programed answers is misogamy so BAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[deathpigeon]

because I know about reality unlike you means I shouldn't be reading yuri is bafflingly stupid on your part...

when you say hateful things about queer people, it's only natural that people question why you're reading queer literature.

 

[Manchura]

when you say hateful things about queer people, it's only natural that people question why you're reading queer literature.

idiotic meat automata at it again

 

[Orangechrisy]

I was correcting your lack of understanding and thinking that because I know about reality unlike you means I shouldn't be reading yuri is bafflingly stupid on your part...

but then again listening to women when she says what she feels but it doesn't line up with meat automata's pre-programed answers is misogamy so BAHAHAHAHAHA

Man do you want me to go through your stupid post fully? Because your way of thinking is entirely nonsensical, but sure.

You make four main points about the beliefs of "meat automata" in that last message:
1. Humans have innate instincts that they can not escape from, this includes wanting to have children, not wanting to have children means someone is defying their natural processes. They can defy the natural instinct by relying on socially accepted ideas.
2. A man saying he is a woman is the socially accepted standard (AKA trans women existing is socially accepted)
2.5. Claiming to be trans means you can avoid punishment for horrible criminal actions.
3. Antinatalism, the belief that the IVF clinic bomber had, in a violent form is good.
4. "Socialist" countries can not commit genocide (AKA what tankies believe).
4.5. There is not a white genocide in South Africa.

What I really don't understand is what you think "socially accepted" means, because of these various things you've described, their social acceptance is wildly different. Looking at America specifically to make things easier, point 1, thinking it's okay to not have children, is a fairly socially accepted belief, I'd say most of society believes this, we have a cultural of individual freedoms like that (notably in Japan, where this argument started, there is more of a pressure to have kids, especially from family. This is what the chapter was about btw, societal pressure to have children making her feel guilty for not wanting children herself). Point 2, trans people existing, is also fairly socially accepted, to a much lesser degree than thinking it's okay to not have children, but still generally a majority. Though given the current US government is actively trying to prevent trans people from existing I'd say it's still pretty contentious.

Point 2.5, no one fucking believes this, what the fuck are you talking about? How the fuck do you believe this is a thing that is both happening and in any way socially accepted?

Point 3, Antinatalism is a pretty fringe and small ideology, it is nowhere near socially accepted and most people think Antinatalists are cringe. Moreover, there's even fewer people who would think bombing an IVF clinic is somehow good, that is not a belief that is in any way socially accepted. Point 4, tankies are also not socially accepted, and generally just an online nuisance. If you think that tankie genocide denial is somehow a socially accepted position than you are seriously out of touch.

Point 4.5, this is very different from the Holodomor denial, Uyghur genocide denial, and suggesting the Holocaust was good because Israel is bad. Those things are all really really stupid tankie beliefs, but the white people getting killed in South Africa thing is just, not something that's happening. There has been a recent surge of talk, especially on places like Fox News or out of the Whitehouse, that talk about there being a genocide, but the actual stats say that very few white farmers have been killed in the past few years, especially compared to the number of murders overall. The idea that they are being killed in order to take their land is just a fabrication, and the act that was passed like two years ago allowing for the taking of land hasn't really been used. Now, really this issue isn't socially accepted either way because the vast majority of Americans do not know or care about what is happening in South Africa, most people only know about it because Trump started saying that there was a genocide happening.

All this to say, I really don't think you know what reality is, nor what socially accepted means. You believe these various fringe beliefs are somehow socially accepted by a large amount of people, including just making up scenarios. You are quite literally living in a nonsensical world in which clinic bombings are celebrated, trans women can't be jailed for rape, and genocide denial is so common that you'd think we already lived in a tankie's wet dream. I beg of you, please go outside and touch grass.

Also like, your ideas about meat automata make no sense because if human nature was really this instinctual urge that people only go against because they are being programmed into "socially acceptable" beliefs, how would those beliefs even form in the first place when they go against people's instincts, it just doesn't make sense.

Oh, and I think you meant misogyny, I'm not sure how not listening to you is misogamy (a hatred of marriage apparently), but also I'm also a woman so somehow a woman not listening to a woman is misogyny. I don't know why I'm still arguing against someone who's just troll saying nonsense, I think because I'm legitimately just baffled by your belief system and how you live your life to the point of believing these things

 

[Manchura]

Man do you want me to go through your stupid post fully? Because your way of thinking is entirely nonsensical, but sure.

You make four main points about the beliefs of "meat automata" in that last message:
1. Humans have innate instincts that they can not escape from, this includes wanting to have children, not wanting to have children means someone is defying their natural processes. They can defy the natural instinct by relying on socially accepted ideas.
2. A man saying he is a woman is the socially accepted standard (AKA trans women existing is socially accepted)
2.5. Claiming to be trans means you can avoid punishment for horrible criminal actions.
3. Antinatalism, the belief that the IVF clinic bomber had, in a violent form is good.
4. "Socialist" countries can not commit genocide (AKA what tankies believe).
4.5. There is not a white genocide in South Africa.

What I really don't understand is what you think "socially accepted" means, because of these various things you've described, their social acceptance is wildly different. Looking at America specifically to make things easier, point 1, thinking it's okay to not have children, is a fairly socially accepted belief, I'd say most of society believes this, we have a cultural of individual freedoms like that (notably in Japan, where this argument started, there is more of a pressure to have kids, especially from family. This is what the chapter was about btw, societal pressure to have children making her feel guilty for not wanting children herself). Point 2, trans people existing, is also fairly socially accepted, to a much lesser degree than thinking it's okay to not have children, but still generally a majority. Though given the current US government is actively trying to prevent trans people from existing I'd say it's still pretty contentious.

Point 2.5, no one fucking believes this, what the fuck are you talking about? How the fuck do you believe this is a thing that is both happening and in any way socially accepted?

Point 3, Antinatalism is a pretty fringe and small ideology, it is nowhere near socially accepted and most people think Antinatalists are cringe. Moreover, there's even fewer people who would think bombing an IVF clinic is somehow good, that is not a belief that is in any way socially accepted. Point 4, tankies are also not socially accepted, and generally just an online nuisance. If you think that tankie genocide denial is somehow a socially accepted position than you are seriously out of touch.

Point 4.5, this is very different from the Holodomor denial, Uyghur genocide denial, and suggesting the Holocaust was good because Israel is bad. Those things are all really really stupid tankie beliefs, but the white people getting killed in South Africa thing is just, not something that's happening. There has been a recent surge of talk, especially on places like Fox News or out of the Whitehouse, that talk about there being a genocide, but the actual stats say that very few white farmers have been killed in the past few years, especially compared to the number of murders overall. The idea that they are being killed in order to take their land is just a fabrication, and the act that was passed like two years ago allowing for the taking of land hasn't really been used. Now, really this issue isn't socially accepted either way because the vast majority of Americans do not know or care about what is happening in South Africa, most people only know about it because Trump started saying that there was a genocide happening.

All this to say, I really don't think you know what reality is, nor what socially accepted means. You believe these various fringe beliefs are somehow socially accepted by a large amount of people, including just making up scenarios. You are quite literally living in a nonsensical world in which clinic bombings are celebrated, trans women can't be jailed for rape, and genocide denial is so common that you'd think we already lived in a tankie's wet dream. I beg of you, please go outside and touch grass.

Also like, your ideas about meat automata make no sense because if human nature was really this instinctual urge that people only go against because they are being programmed into "socially acceptable" beliefs, how would those beliefs even form in the first place when they go against people's instincts, it just doesn't make sense.

Oh, and I think you meant misogyny, I'm not sure how not listening to you is misogamy (a hatred of marriage apparently), but also I'm also a woman so somehow a woman not listening to a woman is misogyny. I don't know why I'm still arguing against someone who's just troll saying nonsense, I think because I'm legitimately just baffled by your belief system and how you live your life to the point of believing these things

it's not nonsensical, just recently we had a trans rapist outed for being one saying it's a good thing to have happen and suddenly everyone who reported on it is getting banned for "transphobia" (phobia in reality being an overly active real threat stimuli left over in the brain so by coining hating trans people as that term they legitimized the idea trans people were a threat to humans in the past which is... no, same with homophobia) and socially acceptable not equaling reality is correct...until it isnt

meat automata are the goose steppers of the world, they are the ones who will inevitably line children up against a wall and shoot them without moral regret saying they were following orders, they follow extremes of social acceptance as a coping mechanism, people go on about the evils of the past yet the same ones who actually carry water for them never cared at all, just needed to feel accepted as they spiraled into insanity from denying their humanity in an attempt to keep some level of public face

you have constantly mischaracterized my arguments on both the original intent of pointing out how she had both pro and anti child thoughts running through her head which meat automata refuse to accept and now mischaracterized my point on why meat automata, like any machine, spiral into errors when primary processes are removed in favor of something it cant do but someone wants it to do and in their case... the inevitability is to become the worst kinds of terrorists and/or commit genocides in the name of their pre-programed answers

these people used to do these things in the name of religion because it was socially acceptable, then class, then nationalism, now in the name of equality, and in the future they will continue to do it in whatever we next identify as the socially acceptable system

 

[Orangechrisy]

it's not nonsensical, just recently we had a trans rapist outed for being one saying it's a good thing to have happen and suddenly everyone who reported on it is getting banned for "transphobia" (phobia in reality being an overly active real threat stimuli left over in the brain so by coining hating trans people as that term they legitimized the idea trans people were a threat to humans in the past which is... no, same with homophobia) and socially acceptable not equaling reality is correct...until it isnt

meat automata are the goose steppers of the world, they are the ones who will inevitably line children up against a wall and shoot them without moral regret saying they were following orders, they follow extremes of social acceptance as a coping mechanism, people go on about the evils of the past yet the same ones who actually carry water for them never cared at all, just needed to feel accepted as they spiraled into insanity from denying their humanity in an attempt to keep some level of public face

you have constantly mischaracterized my arguments on both the original intent of pointing out how she had both pro and anti child thoughts running through her head which meat automata refuse to accept and now mischaracterized my point on why meat automata, like any machine, spiral into errors when primary processes are removed in favor of something it cant do but someone wants it to do and in their case... the inevitability is to become the worst kinds of terrorists and/or commit genocides in the name of their pre-programed answers

these people used to do these things in the name of religion because it was socially acceptable, then class, then nationalism, now in the name of equality, and in the future they will continue to do it in whatever we next identify as the socially acceptable system

Please, please go touch grass. Maybe get a therapist too. I don't know. Maybe just a friend, maybe an irl friend will help you. Just talking to someone outside. I'm just utterly baffled by how you have even gotten to this belief system at all, it just doesn't make any sense, how did you get here?

 

[Manchura]

Please, please go touch grass. Maybe get a therapist too. I don't know. Maybe just a friend, maybe an irl friend will help you. Just talking to someone outside. I'm just utterly baffled by how you have even gotten to this belief system at all, it just doesn't make any sense, how did you get here?

I do have a life outside of the internet and understand human interactions unlike you since you cant understand how a normal person outside of the internet is observant to what actions aren't human, for example another one of your meat automata just shot 2 jews and started chanting free Palestine as he was arrested... something that they've been saying to do for months on university grounds

 

[Orangechrisy]

I do have a life outside of the internet and understand human interactions unlike you since you cant understand how a normal person outside of the internet is observant to what actions aren't human, for example another one of your meat automata just shot 2 jews and started chanting free Palestine as he was arrested... something that they've been saying to do for months on university grounds

No really, please touch grass. Nothing you say makes any sense, and I think you really should just talk to people. Like I know this may be hard to learn but people killing others is something that has been happening for thousands of years, there isn't some nebulous controller who has been programming people for thousands of years to do "non human" things. I don't know how you don't see the incredible logical inconsistencies in your belief system. Maybe you're the real meat automata, maybe someone's controlling you.

 

[Manchura]

No really, please touch grass. Nothing you say makes any sense, and I think you really should just talk to people. Like I know this may be hard to learn but people killing others is something that has been happening for thousands of years, there isn't some nebulous controller who has been programming people for thousands of years to do "non human" things. I don't know how you don't see the incredible logical inconsistencies in your belief system. Maybe you're the real meat automata, maybe someone's controlling you.

and there it is, the support for gunning down the socially accepted out group

classic meat automata

 

[Orangechrisy]

and there it is, the support for gunning down the socially accepted out group

classic meat automata

I don't know how I'm gunning anything down or what group you're a part of all I know is you need to just talk to people in real life, please

 

[Orangechrisy]

look, it's so broken it is merely repeating the same phrase like a broken machine!

anyways here is what a normal human reaction to this meat automata's position is:

Dude I wasn't cheering on those embassy people being killed I barely know anything about the situation and I don't really like random people getting killed. What I was saying is that your belief is completely illogical because you described what happened, two people being shot for political reasons, as actions that are not human. All I'm trying to say is that this doesn't make any sense, because people having been killing each other for quite literally all of human history (and shockingly other species also do this!). That isn't to say it's good, that's just to say that you can't just say that killing is an inhuman action only done because of some still nebulous and unexplained group programming people to do things against their nature. How did these controllers come to be? Why do they keep changing what is socially acceptable? If killing is inhuman then how have they been around for all of human history and not been able to control everyone yet? Is there any type of killing that isn't done because of these meat automata controllers and if so what are they and if not why are they controlling both sides of every single conflict no matter what size?

You're the one who keeps repeating the same phrase like a broken machine. Anything I say you just say "lmao meat automata" instead of explaining anything about how this belief system works or giving a reason for any of the inconsistencies I've been pointing out in it. Because it doesn't make sense and you are seemingly the only person in the English speaking world who believes it (literally googling for ""meat automata" -nier" (because some Nier Automata items show up otherwise) gets only an assortment of random posts that just use the phrase offhandedly, nothing with any sort of belief behind it resembling what you say).

 

[Manchura]

Dude I wasn't cheering on those embassy people being killed I barely know anything about the situation and I don't really like random people getting killed. What I was saying is that your belief is completely illogical because you described what happened, two people being shot for political reasons, as actions that are not human. All I'm trying to say is that this doesn't make any sense, because people having been killing each other for quite literally all of human history (and shockingly other species also do this!). That isn't to say it's good, that's just to say that you can't just say that killing is an inhuman action only done because of some still nebulous and unexplained group programming people to do things against their nature. How did these controllers come to be? Why do they keep changing what is socially acceptable? If killing is inhuman then how have they been around for all of human history and not been able to control everyone yet? Is there any type of killing that isn't done because of these meat automata controllers and if so what are they and if not why are they controlling both sides of every single conflict no matter what size?

You're the one who keeps repeating the same phrase like a broken machine. Anything I say you just say "lmao meat automata" instead of explaining anything about how this belief system works or giving a reason for any of the inconsistencies I've been pointing out in it. Because it doesn't make sense and you are seemingly the only person in the English speaking world who believes it (literally googling for ""meat automata" -nier" (because some Nier Automata items show up otherwise) gets only an assortment of random posts that just use the phrase offhandedly, nothing with any sort of belief behind it resembling what you say).

once again, their actions aren't the point it's how they got to this point inhumanly that is what makes them meat automata

you keep failing to understand basic language and repeat the same phrase without taking in what I am saying which makes you meat automata and you will 100% become no different from that rat when you are ignored by wider society and everything you are programed to believe gets you disgusted looks from real, thinking humans who have properly identified it as a derivative of inhuman thoughtless processes driven by nothing substantial to human progression

now good day meat automata, choose the self inflected end and not the external terror when you finally snap realizing you aren't capable of being treated like a human because of how your thoughtless world view programed into you spirals into errors

 

[Orangechrisy]

once again, their actions aren't the point it's how they got to this point inhumanly that is what makes them meat automata

you keep failing to understand basic language and repeat the same phrase without taking in what I am saying which makes you meat automata and you will 100% become no different from that rat when you are ignored by wider society and everything you are programed to believe gets you disgusted looks from real, thinking humans who have properly identified it as a derivative of inhuman thoughtless processes driven by nothing substantial to human progression

now good day meat automata, choose the self inflected end and not the external terror when you finally snap realizing you aren't capable of being treated like a human because of how your thoughtless world view programed into you spirals into errors

Can you not speak in nonsense for like 5 minutes? Can you bother to explain any of the inconsistencies of this worldview you have? Like I just want to know some basic questions like who is doing the controlling? How did they get into that position? How do they actually control people (not just "programming" or whatever, but like really, how)? Why don't they control everyone by now? Why do they control people to have such differing opinions (like you keep calling me a meat automata and I don't believe at most of the shit you have said meat automata believe)? What does socially accepted even mean in any of this because you have stated things are socially accepted that are fringe radical beliefs held by a very tiny amount of the population? How exactly does one have to act to not be considered a meat automata (again, besides just "like a human", because that doesn't mean anything at this point with how contradictory everything you say is)? How much of the world is not a meat automata?

You literally haven't answered anything. You just keep repeating "lmao meat automata" over and over and over. I genuinely want to understand what your belief system is here and how you came to believe it, because I find it bafflingly insane. Please, teach me.

 

[Manchura]

Can you not speak in nonsense for like 5 minutes? Can you bother to explain any of the inconsistencies of this worldview you have? Like I just want to know some basic questions like who is doing the controlling? How did they get into that position? How do they actually control people (not just "programming" or whatever, but like really, how)? Why don't they control everyone by now? Why do they control people to have such differing opinions (like you keep calling me a meat automata and I don't believe at most of the shit you have said meat automata believe)? What does socially accepted even mean in any of this because you have stated things are socially accepted that are fringe radical beliefs held by a very tiny amount of the population? How exactly does one have to act to not be considered a meat automata (again, besides just "like a human", because that doesn't mean anything at this point with how contradictory everything you say is)? How much of the world is not a meat automata?

You literally haven't answered anything. You just keep repeating "lmao meat automata" over and over and over. I genuinely want to understand what your belief system is here and how you came to believe it, because I find it bafflingly insane. Please, teach me.

I've explained it multiple times in very simple terms, you have proven to be meat automata because you haven't actually reacted to what I said and only derived keywords out of what I said and spat out the pre-programed phrases you need to say when those keywords are used regardless of context:

there was no "they" controlling everyone in any of my explanations, you just reached that concluding because of your pre-programed nature to associate anything with mental changes to be a conspiracy tied to mind control in order to not think for 2 seconds when I have repeatedly said meat automata aren't actually thinking but relying on the same type of brain activity breathing does but with higher thought

when errors occur because the socially acceptable world view these meat automata follow doesn't have basis in reality that humans operate in and becomes widely rejected once humans start living through it results in them radicalizing and deeming normal humans who reject that world view to be the reason it isn't working leading to them becoming extremists... and I've pointed at many individuals who are actively becoming like that as their unnatural beliefs that inevitably harm humanity come crumbling down around them and you haven't once understood this part

you just have to be a human, there is no other answer... if someone acts like their frontal lobe is running on the same software as breathing where nuance is ignored and they cant even understand basic human reactions, it's clear they are meat automata... like someone constantly saying "you are crazy, that doesn't make sense, you have answered nothing" to every explanation even when it is so simple as "using the frontal lobe like it's the the medulla oblongata"

I haven't just been laughing at you, I've also been explaining in 8 year old level terms what I mean and you still dont get that it's not a belief system... it's just an observation on how stupid most people have always been considering we have so many studies into psychology that prove everything behind the frontal lobe can be manipulated rather easily if the frontal lobe aint working right