Sake to Oni wa Nigou made - Ch. 52
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Massively important discussions, questions and themes in this chapter. So much has been carefully built up over the course of the narrative and the tension has risen each chapter along with it. Really love this series.
Hoping Naori and Hinata figure this out together but I'm sure it won't be exactly as they expect. I'm not sure what the outcome will be other than expecting Hinata and Naori remaining together in some way; the orge/human politics and this idea of dependency and what it means to change who you are for good vs bad reasons--they don't have easy answers.
Hoping Naori and Hinata figure this out together but I'm sure it won't be exactly as they expect. I'm not sure what the outcome will be other than expecting Hinata and Naori remaining together in some way; the orge/human politics and this idea of dependency and what it means to change who you are for good vs bad reasons--they don't have easy answers.
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New chapter of my favourite lesbian drunkards 
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This chapter was delayed several times to the point where I was questioning whether I or not I had correctly read the correct month. I checked Internet Archive earlier to triple check, in July it said it would come out in August, and in September it said October. After that I made a screenshot just to be sure I wasn't misremembering it and in October it said November.
Anyway, the website states that the next chapter releases on January 28th.
Anyway, the website states that the next chapter releases on January 28th.
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So long as it's not axed, I'm fine with delays. Thanks for your work!
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ooooh, that god's kinda a cutie, ngl
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"For starters, how does it even feel to want to become something completely different?"
Oh. We're generalizing? That's definitely starters. In a vacuum, changing fantasy species can be less disruptive than changing roles. Responsibility tethers people past the point when the good they due is vastly undermined by the harm to themself... So I guess the feel is when the difficulty of transition seems to be better than the alternative? Like feeling walled in, maybe claustrophobic, not just walled off. That's complete.
Naori's got some rare self-concept to be sure. We've always seen her as fundamentally chill with her hobby, and becoming more competent for her love doesn't mean completely different to her. It's a really good counterbalance to Hinata's naiveté, and good at highlighting Naori's other social gaps, since Naori is almost divinely pure at times but she's maybe less equipped with intuitions about deep transitions than the average human.
That's just my read though. Generalizing doesn't mean Hinata's situation maps readily to specific transitions. I'm just tryna disentangle why Naori is stuck on a root that I've sometimes been biased to assume was part of general empathy. It's not. Abstractions are learned, and this (really really important) abstraction seems a bit foreign to Naori.
Oh. We're generalizing? That's definitely starters. In a vacuum, changing fantasy species can be less disruptive than changing roles. Responsibility tethers people past the point when the good they due is vastly undermined by the harm to themself... So I guess the feel is when the difficulty of transition seems to be better than the alternative? Like feeling walled in, maybe claustrophobic, not just walled off. That's complete.
Naori's got some rare self-concept to be sure. We've always seen her as fundamentally chill with her hobby, and becoming more competent for her love doesn't mean completely different to her. It's a really good counterbalance to Hinata's naiveté, and good at highlighting Naori's other social gaps, since Naori is almost divinely pure at times but she's maybe less equipped with intuitions about deep transitions than the average human.
There's a neat pattern here where disadvantages of being a woman among the creepy elders in this series doesn't bring up transition so bluntly, so the disadvantage of species may be okay to feel about yet in Hinata's case not reflect the actual disadvantages bothering her. Like, gender problems are the fault of the misogynists so what if any truth justifies the ogre stigma? Hinata is shackled by obligations and food. The role of a caring leader could actually fit her well if it wasn't paired to servitude. The best endgame seems like it would be becoming better at stealth and not limited by liquor, while keeping strength and pride and defiance. So like not a gender transition, not something about this or that person's choice IRL, but gender is pretty vital to grasping how I understand the transition in play here.
That's just my read though. Generalizing doesn't mean Hinata's situation maps readily to specific transitions. I'm just tryna disentangle why Naori is stuck on a root that I've sometimes been biased to assume was part of general empathy. It's not. Abstractions are learned, and this (really really important) abstraction seems a bit foreign to Naori.
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Just starting this month the artist resumed posting on IG. So hopefully a good sign.
https://www.instagram.com/zinbei036_
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Yeah they go on breaks every now and then. This one got extended but they've kept posting on Twitter the entire time (it's two people with separate accounts but they always mention each other).
A part of me doesn't want Hinata to lose her ogre-ness.
I would rather she could just be an ogre and not have the strings attached (like being the leader of all ogres or whatever her role equates to), and also that they looked for a way to break that curse instead. I guess the structure of their community and their justified inability to integrate (horns really stand out) doesn't allow for that though.
Just sucks that the current path is a one-off, quick fix and doesn't help any other ogres - leaves them all hanging actually.
Feels like there's a more robust solution than what she's going for.
Hopefully author-san can pull off something good.
I would rather she could just be an ogre and not have the strings attached (like being the leader of all ogres or whatever her role equates to), and also that they looked for a way to break that curse instead. I guess the structure of their community and their justified inability to integrate (horns really stand out) doesn't allow for that though.
Just sucks that the current path is a one-off, quick fix and doesn't help any other ogres - leaves them all hanging actually.
Feels like there's a more robust solution than what she's going for.
Hopefully author-san can pull off something good.
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So much tiptoeing going on. If Hinata just said she wanted to be with Naori I'm sure they wouldn't be having all this turmoil.
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Their issue has little to do with confessions.
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The top picture with the 3 ogre heroines looks like this to me:
Our girls are stanced up
Our girls are stanced up
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I do disagree. I think it has everything to do with confessions, their inability to fully confide in each other about these doubts that they're having, their emotional distance that is at the same time a kind of dependence. It's all caused by a desire to not fully confront those emotions because both Naori and Hinata think of their relationship as something deeply fragile. A confession, any confession of feelings not necessarily romantic, is the way out of this for them.
