Anata ga Shitekurenakute mo - Vol. 2 Ch. 10

[MangaDex]

 

[Audettey]

Mmmmm yessssss
You both go get that breaaaaaad.

Both Niina and Michi deserve so much better than their current SO. I just hope they don’t cheat and wait until after divorce or separation.

 

[Yabaibunni]

I hope they learn they're probably better off with each other, but do not do it while cheating.

 

[cixous]

Spicy

 

[sirflimflam]

I don't really like any of them.

 

[sotyopratama]

awww

 

[Starbright]

Wow there respective spouses are pretty inconsiderate atleast the other guy still says he loves his wife. This wife I get no feeling she even cares about her husband I feel like she only has him around just to support her and thats it.

 

[Aniki_pepehands]

Dude at that point both should just get a divorce

 

[sakuchu]

Niina needs to talk to his wife. Compared to Michi and You, there's still hope for Niina and his wife.
Though the fact that he's afraid to speak to her is a huge red flag. I can't help but wonder if she's lost her temper at him once before, and he's just become passive after that.

Idk everyone here needs marriage counseling.

 

[petra]

they both contribute far more to their relationships than their partners do.
it'd be good if niina could voice his feelings rather than keeping them to himself.

 

[SleepyAbra]

I’m curious to know how long Niina’s situation has been like this. Cause based on the fact that he was looking for the opposite of his mother, his wife could have always been independent and acted this way. Unlike Michi we have not seen what their relationship was like at the beginning.

Also I feel like Michi’s husband is like a walking “shocked pikachu” meme. He keeps emotionally neglecting his wife and then gets shocked when she’s had enough and confronts him / inevitably searches for an external relationship.

 

[maddery]

Of course your husband is avoiding you on purpose: you're too obsessed with sex okay! Get the hint!

And Niina seemed to confuse admiration with love. No wonder his marriage life is not good right now. But unlike Michi's, his marriage can still work. He just need to give his wife some space to focus on her career now. I don't hate his wife because I understand her dedication to her career and why she acted like that.

@Audettey This manga is about cheating sadly, so they'll cheat on their spouse while still being married.

 

[elefantine97]

@maddery hwhat? are we reading the same manga, cuz last i checked the husband was cold and distant and made no effort to be intimate or to even reach an understanding
and niina's wife is basically a stranger/house mate, no more than that
this manga is as about cheating as toy story is about the rise of fascism after world war 1 - exactly, not even close
it's about recognizing when a relationship just isn't healthy for you
the reason they haven't filed for divorce yet is because they still have hope for their partners, and also a general fear of loneliness
and well, people in similar circumstances attract, obviously

 

[sakuchu]

@maddery

LOL physical affection is pretty dang important in a marriage. It's definitely not the most important part of a marriage, but even tiny things like cuddling and hugging mean a lot. They don't need to do it every day or anything, but he needs to sit down and work it out with her. She can't improve herself if he doesn't tell her why he's not attracted to her anymore. And to be honest, he's not really emotionally available for her either, so it's not like he's trying to make up for that gap in their relationship in other ways. When she tried to talk to him about it like adults, he either lies to her or gaslights her. And when she basically just accepts it and tries to move on and live with that distance that he's partially responsible for creating, he gets upset at her. That's a HUGE red flag.

I'd actually argue that Niina needs to stop distancing himself from his wife, put the apron down, and tell her how he feels. She seems like a decent person (so far), but just a huge workaholic. But she's clearly not giving him any attention, and barely interacting with him. Jobs are important, no doubt, but in the end all you have left is family. There are points where you have business trips and conferences, and things you can't avoid, but if it's been going on to the point where she's slapping his hand away after he tries to talk to her, thus pushing him back into his passive corner, then it's not a healthy relationship. He shouldn't feel like he has to walk on eggshells to make her happy or to avoid a conflict. He's very clearly afraid of her, to a certain degree, and no one should be afraid of their spouse. Clearly in his attempt to try and make sure he didn't turn his wife into his mom, he didn't realize that the exact opposite of that spectrum (a workaholic) isn't going to make him happy either.

But damn, I really hope they don't cheat. Though I know that

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You does cheat on Michi with someone else

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[maddery]

@elefantine97 The husband wasn't even cold and distant... That's

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Niina

. Don't you know that passion that you have in the beginning of the relationship usually doesn't last long after marriage? Michi's relationship is an example of that. Their relationship became better

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after Michi felt guilty when trying to cheat on him with Niina. Then she and him made a genuine effort this time in fixing their relationship. Tho the same cannot be said for Niina who might have come to hate his wife after falling for Michi. Never mind that the wife attempted to fix the relationship but got rejected by him.

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It's about cheating too. Tho thankfully

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it didn't go as far as you people wanted since Michi still loves her husband

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[maddery]

@sakuchu Not really. Maybe during the beginning of the relationship. As they got older, they don't do that anymore. Considering the way Michi tried to talk to him so far, it's understandable why he reacted like that. And I'm not surprised by him not being emotionally available to her. Michi's sex drive is high while You's low. And they are not of the same wavelength too. The relationship screamed "incompatible". How in the world did they get together anyway? A spur moment of passionate love? To me, Michi's high sex drive is the red flag. Everything about her so far remind me of a cheater.

As for Niina, I found out from the vol. 4 raw that

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he's the problematic one

. I don't know why he reacted like that, but I don' t think that he's afraid of her. Not at all. Seemed like dejected to me. Also,

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there might be no hope for the relationship, since he has fallen too deep for Michi and refused to accept his wife's attempt to fix their relationship.

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Also

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Michi did tried to cheat with Niina, but backed out since You came to her mind and made her realize that she still loves her husband.

 

[Fondantes]

Doesn't seem like the husband's sex drive is all that low, I mean she caught him wanking it. He just doesn't want to have sex with her and uses ED as an excuse. Also, Michi's sex drive is average. If it was super high, she'd be getting off by herself and/or already cheating. She simply wants to be intimate with her husband and start a family. Michi has literally gone TWO WHOLE YEARS without romantic and physical intimacy from her husband. I don't understand why you look at her as some nymphomaniac.

 

[maddery]

@Fondantes I considered his low, since he only masturbated and not obsessed about it like Michi. Michi's constant nagging + lack of understanding might be why he's unconsciously reluctant to be intimate with her. Or maybe he's one of those people who are not made for romantic and physical intimacy. But if he did, there is no reason for Niina to be existing y'know. Gotta made him hateable so that readers will ship Michi with Niina no matter how wrong that is.

I wouldn't call Michi's average, since

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she's so desperate that she's willing to do it with Niina later.

. Considering that her brain is nearly full of it, she might as well on her way to become one. And sexless marriage is normal in Japan. Instead of seeking help from marriage counselor, they prefer to have affairs to solve the problem. Which is being reflected in this manga.

 

[sleepyknight]

@maddery, at this point i really think its less an issue of the writing not being clear n more an issue of you just thinking that women shouldn't want to have sex ever. You can say what you want abt the plot being contrived or whatever but its p clear that Miichi has fairly common needs which aren't being met or even addressed by her partner. If its gotten to the point that the literal text of the manga states that what she wants is to feel loved, to feel any sort of connection with her husband, and you're making it about how she has an insanely high libido then it feels like you're intentionally misreading the manga due to your personal beliefs regarding women's sexual expression, which is a shame, bc this is actually a pretty interesting and engaging manga

 

[maddery]

@sleepyknight Now you are lying here. I have never said that women shouldn't want to have sex, ever. My problem is that her thoughts are so damn full of it that it's disturbing. She really needs to find help because her mental health is not healthy okay. Since she knew that her marriage is full of problem, why don't she go seek help from pro! You guys are so blinded by her MC halo that you people can't see what's wrong with her. Only think that her husband is the reason why the marriage is failing but failed to see how Michi also contributed to it.

I wouldn't really call this manga interesting and engaging, not when the author purposely wrote their spouses as unlikeable to the readers. Cheating is never the answer to broken marriage. And what do you know, she actually

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did it with Niina, but not beyond penetration

just because she's that desperate for sex. That's rather foolish of you to think that I'm against women expressing sexual expression, since my problems with this manga are the purposely negative portrayal of the spouses (You and Kaede), cheating and in Michi's case, her personality, attitude and mentality.