Anata ga Shitekurenakute mo - Vol. 2 Ch. 11

[MangaDex]

 

[Karakuri1812]

Just do each other already ughhhh 😭😭 but that would be cheating. But but but life is so complicated 😭 thank you for the update

 

[Kousora]

Do you think cheating is justified in this situation?

I don't think it's justified tbh, they should leave their partners first.

 

[sleepyknight]

@kousora, if my partner filed for divorce and then immediately entered a relationship with someone else then i really dont think that i would like, particularly care as to whether or not they'd begun "officially" dating before or after i got handed the papers lmao. like if my partner was cheating on me while maintaining the pretense of wanting to stay in a relationship with me then yeah id be mad, but i view that as distinct from like leaving me because they want to be with someone else, like i'd still be hurt but the problem with the former is the deception inherent in continuing the relationship despite having gone back on one of the fundamental agreements of it.

wrt this manga specifically i definitely do think niina should talk it out first with his wife before giving up on his relationship because it might really be temporary and its entirely possible that it can be resolved but miichi's marriage is a dumpster fire. i'd say that for her, it would be more unhealthy in the long term to stay with her husband. basically my main investment in this manga is like waiting to see her realize that her marriage will never work out and leave her husband, and im honestly fine with an affair being the catalyst for that realization.

more generally i don't think that marriages or relationships should be prioritized over the well-being of the people who are a part of them. if a romantic relationship is harming someone physically or emotionally (whether that's intentional on their partner's part or not) then i think that they should leave it, and i don't particularly care how they do so as long as it isn't injurious to any other people. i get that cheating is hurtful but i think that laser-focusing on cheating as being the most hurtful possible thing to do to a partner ignores the existence of non abusive dynamics and behavior patterns that can also be harmful. like, in the case of this manga, repeatedly deflecting a partners attempts to state their needs so that you don't have to address them or change your behaviour and intentionally ignoring the fact that your partner is a human being with needs so that you can continue to benefit from their domestic labor are both pretty shitty things to do! can you say that the harm that youhei's behaviour has done to miichi's emotional well-being exceeds whatever possible damage she may do to youhei by entering a relationship with another person before leaving him?

 

[salvia]

@ sleepyknight, nicely said, I agree with you

 

[maddery]

Cheating should never be justified, ever. If your marriage does not work, either ask your partner why it is not working and try to change for better, or seek help from marriage counselor. If things doesn't work at all, then divorce and find a new partner later. Think rationally. With cheating, you're not only hurting your partner, but also your cheater's partner (and their children if they have them). And do not be surprised that after you got together with your affair partner, that they will cheat on you with another person. There is a reason why the saying "once a cheater will always be a cheater" exist you know.

As usual, people are still rooting for those two. Still think there's nothing wrong with those two right? Still think that their partners are in the wrong right? Still think that those two should just have an affair, no matter how wrong that is right? Sigh.

And even though I don't really like people like Hana, I do agree with her on the friendship between women thing.

 

[100thlurker]

Still think there's nothing wrong with those two right?

@maddery I would certainly say the main pair are very sympathetic yes. They're no saints and have their flaws, but if anything the realism of their moments of weakness only makes it easier to empathize with their plight, especially in light of the shame and self-loathing they feel over their mistakes. Their respective commitments to their marriages has been commendable thus far.

As for the rest, it really feels like you've been arguing with imaginary strawmen rather than any comments people have actually made. No one is rooting for them to cheat.

 

[cixous]

Man i never liked hana and i like her even less this chapter

 

[maddery]

@100thlurker Actually there are readers who are rooting them to cheat. They hate You, so they are rooting for Michi to cheat on him with Niina soon. And those same readers think that Michi is a saint just because she have been enduring so much for her marriage. They are from other manga site. I find it hard to sympathize with Michi and Niina since I have read and understand why their marriages are not working. Of the characters, I only sympathize Kaede because she is the only decent character from what I have read so far (I have seen vol. 4 raws before this).

@cixous Hana was mean to be unlikable anyway. At least she is honest about herself.

 

[petra]

hana is so funny

 

[anime06]

Please don't cheat, just get together after you guys divorce your current partners and get out of those toxic relationships.

 

[Fyre_Engyn]

They are fighting their desires

 

[Katsuramuki]

Fuck Hana