Ani to Imouto no Shitai Shitai Shitai Koto - Vol. 3 Ch. 15.2

[Fireboy]

Missing page 2. No text on that page but missing nonetheless.

Feels like we're speeding to the conclusion before the axe drops.

 

[FaustTepes]

Missing page 2. No text on that page but missing nonetheless.

Feels like we're speeding to the conclusion before the axe drops.

Thanks for telling me.

 

[AntiFolk]

incest really do be the purest form of love

 

[Verypeeved]

Interesting how embracing incest made them the happiest.

Funny that, innit?

 

[weleasewodger]

Shizuku wants to have incest babies, what could possibly go wrong....I mean just look at the British royal family to see how well inbreeding works

 

[NeroNeko]

I feel like a degenerare for wanting a threesome to happen in this heavenly wholesome story. I am disgusted eith myself

 

[rush41294]

Well society tells us that it's taboo, but at the end of the day it's just a man and a woman that have feelings for each other. And if they go somewhere where no one knows them and people see them together i think no one would think they are anything but a normal couple.

It's not about society at all, incest was in older times legal. Which after some research found that it leads to genetic disorder. It's not like they ban incest due to religious or societal reasons. People only think it's a taboo, but scientifically you are just creating chances to give birth to disabled children more. Well but if someone has decided then they can take risks and move to Alabama. Like i said chances not 100%, that children born will be disabled.
So yeah what i will say is, there should be a proper knowledge why incest is avoided instead of making it as societal taboo. And yeah if they had decided their lives should be avoided instead of putting them under law. But i think what punishment is for, cause you are taking the risk of bringing a disabled child just because of your "love"

 

[Hanakozaki]

This isn't what the Kamisato clan wanted, Big Bro pace yourself before you erase yourself.

 

[smormu]

Incest is probably gonna be legalized in a couple of decades so ...

When gay marriage was being fought over the left said that two consenting adults should be able to love each other and the right said by that logic why not incest? The left called the right silly and said that was a slippery slope fallacy, but they had a point.

Most of the arguments against gay marriage are also used against incest. The arguments in question being:

1. It’s wrong because god said so

2. It can cause/spread diseases, in the case of incest it’s genetic diseases and for gays it’s the fact that gay men are really bad at not spreading STDs

3. It‘s bad for society because it erodes social norms

4. It could lead to the exploitation of children somehow

5. It’s icky

These arguments failed when it came to gay marriage, why would they hold up long term against incest? To clarify I am not here to make arguments for why homosexuality is wrong, but rather compare the similarity of it’s taboo nature and stigma to incest which I don’t think is wrong either.

The problem of genetic disorders could be solved with genetic engineering or even just cherry picking which sperm and egg cells to use to make sure no harmful genes are passed down. When you take the danger of inbreeding away people are at a loss as for why incest is wrong.

Simply put if the gays are fine why not incest? I think incest might be destigmatized in the future.

Though incest is not being fought for at all really, it’s much rarer than homosexuality and the people who are into it don’t really organize and go out marching for it or anything.

 

[HoesLuvHerro]

They finally did it, wincest bros eating good tonight

 

[Bobdillan69]

When gay marriage was being fought over the left said that two consenting adults should be able to love each other and the right said by that logic why not incest? The left called the right silly and said that was a slippery slope fallacy, but they had a point.

Most of the arguments against gay marriage are also used against incest. The arguments in question being:

1. It’s wrong because god said so

2. It can cause/spread diseases, in the case of incest it’s genetic diseases and for gays it’s the fact that gay men are really bad at not spreading STDs

3. It‘s bad for society because it erodes social norms

4. It could lead to the exploitation of children somehow

5. It’s icky

These arguments failed when it came to gay marriage, why would they hold up long term against incest? To clarify I am not here to make arguments for why homosexuality is wrong, but rather compare the similarity of it’s taboo nature and stigma to incest which I don’t think is wrong either.

The problem of genetic disorders could be solved with genetic engineering or even just cherry picking which sperm and egg cells to use to make sure no harmful genes are passed down. When you take the danger of inbreeding away people are at a loss as for why incest is wrong.

Simply put if the gays are fine why not incest? I think incest might be destigmatized in the future.

Though incest is not being fought for at all really, it’s much rarer than homosexuality and the people who are into it don’t really organize and go out marching for it or anything.

1. God didn't say so. (at least for siblings), Refer to Adam and Eve, Now we know what happened to Cain and Able, but the bible also name drops the next son, Seth, now whom exactly do you think Seth procreated with, WHEN THE ONLY FEMALES WHERE HIS SISTERS... I rest my case. (mom was taken duh, cheating bad).

Then you also have the case of Noah... again WITH WHOM DOTH THOUEST THINK THEIR CHILDREN PROCREATED WITH! they were all siblings and cousins... DUH.
And you don't even need these fill in the blank examples, there's literally marriages of cousins... Sooooooo, if someone says "it's wrong because god said so" then they ain't reading their damn Bible or Q'ran (however you spell it).
What's wrong, is adultery (sex outside of marriage, another mans women etc.) sooooo as a man, unless you're going for your mother or married aunt... "It's free real-estate".

I say mom without exception, because despite modern marriage vows... it ain't "till death do us part" it's "Two flesh become one, THE END" and it's considered to always be one, divorce ain't actually a thing biblically speaking, with one exception, sexual immorality (I'd also add the man beating his wife, but Bible tends to word things from the perspective of men, and that well... it was seen as a "you just don't do that", and if you find someone who does, you stone that fucker to death... good times.

You also have the idea that we started with 1-3 humans... soo it's retarded in a scientific sense as well for incest to be bad. (again siblings, and cousins)

2. There is actually validity for genetic disorders ONLY when both are predisposed to something... but same goes for strangers. (i.e. autism, although fun fact, it seems autistic people are attracted to other autistic people... so it's common for them to marry XD thus autism at least is a moot point for wincest).

3. TBH certain social norms just shouldn't exist... cause they're retarded. (in the case of siblings and cousins though) also, not as much of a norm as we are lead to think.

4. Tbh, that's only a remotely relevant argument if we talking position of authority type dynamics. (So again moot point on siblings and cousins).

5. I never understood this one myself... like some people will use that weirdness to hate the idea of being with their childhood friend... when their childhood friend is literally the best choice for a spouse... you've literally been together all your life and like eachother... all you're doing is adding seggs and becoming an actual family.


I have to disagree with you on the gay marriage point though... in fact Incest is more aggreable than homosexuality... for the simple reason it's still genuine procreation thus creates more children. hence it wins.

I'd also argue, at least in the case of genuine homo not the current fad homo (many do it for attention), incest is more common, maybe not direct, but cousins is pretty commonplace. It's just not talked about or a big thing... cause well... it's not illegal in most places, so it ain't really an issue. (at least for cousins, and some places siblings).

As for genetic disorders... that's more top down from what I have learned, as for across, not really much of an issue.

There's also the whole "dilutes DNA" which is a dumb argument to begin with, when we have tribes that have existed for like 1000 years... and they've only ever been 30-50 people... (inbred as fuck).

And yes, I really did write all of this, purely to write point 1. heh.

Bonus: incest used to be normal (final "at least for siblings and cousins"), the royals made it weird.

Hope you enjoyed the read.

Spoiler: This is basically an Essay.

Also... yes, I don't think gays should have marriage, I also don't think Mr dipshit who's on his 6th marriage (all 5 other ex-wives still alive, and not a widower) also shouldn't have marriage, and consider that worse btw.
Basically, the actual meaning of the term, and the religious significance it has, should be respected.

Which means gays can't have it, neither can gov (which would be a good thing... them sticking their dick in helped skyrocket divorce rates), nor can divorce on any grounds bar the exception of "Sexual immorality" as it says in the book it came from.

That being said, them having a ceromony, where they pledge to each-other yadda yadda, have at it, just... don't call it marriage. And by them, I mean all those examples above, not just gays. Since, none of them are marriage by it's actual definition. (since marriage, by definition and genuine ceremony, is a man and a woman, two flesh becoming one, under the eyes of God... and well, many don't respect either of those aspects... so why the fuck are they calling it marriage.)

What makes it fun tho, is that there actually isn't a rule against more than one wife... (more than one husband there is, because well.. it's purely lust and not for building family... a womb issue, just built different), yet so many treat it like there is... yet it's only ever implied, and extrapolated, not directly mentioned.
They love to bring up solomon, but solomon is about bad choice of women, not multiple. "Better to be alone on a hill, then at home with a contentuous woman" and warnings about harlots that seduce you with sweet words on their lips, but poison on their tongue.
Proverbs is pretty based ngl man, worth the read regardless of your beliefs.
That being said "Wife", as in, another woman that you marry THEN do stuff with. It's very particular.

And yes, I did use that clarification of my stance purely to talk about how shit marriage has become, and how it's an abused shell of what it's supposed to be. You thought this would be an "Anti-gay marriage" spiel, but no, "it was me DI..." wait, wrong sentence, ahem, but no it was an issue of how marriage has essentially lost most of it's meaning and value, especially here in the west.
Personally, I'd never get married by gov... since that's not marriage, the state has no place in marriage.
What's funny is with defacto laws... they treat you as married regardless. The rings and little ceremony just change the official name, most if not all of the laws are still the same. (to my knowledge).
Cause the gov can insert a legal dispute there and make some $$$$.

ahem, enough of my ramblings.

 

[smormu]

1. God didn't say so. (at least for siblings), Refer to Adam and Eve, Now we know what happened to Cain and Able, but the bible also name drops the next son, Seth, now whom exactly do you think Seth procreated with, WHEN THE ONLY FEMALES WHERE HIS SISTERS... I rest my case. (mom was taken duh, cheating bad).

Then you also have the case of Noah... again WITH WHOM DOTH THOUEST THINK THEIR CHILDREN PROCREATED WITH! they were all siblings and cousins... DUH.
And you don't even need these fill in the blank examples, there's literally marriages of cousins... Sooooooo, if someone says "it's wrong because god said so" then they ain't reading their damn Bible or Q'ran (however you spell it).
What's wrong, is adultery (sex outside of marriage, another mans women etc.) sooooo as a man, unless you're going for your mother or married aunt... "It's free real-estate".

While there is a lot of incest early in the Old Testament, it does say later on that you’re not allowed to fuck your sister.
Deuteronomy 27:22 “Cursed is anyone who sleeps with his sister, the daughter of his father or the daughter of his mother.”

You don’t need to convince me that these arguments aren’t very strong, I literally listed them as failed arguments.

As for genetic disorders... that's more top down from what I have learned, as for across, not really much of an issue.

That is not true, inbreeding depression absolutely does happen with siblings. It’s even a thing with cousins, though it is relatively minor.

 

[Bobdillan69]

While there is a lot of incest early in the Old Testament, it does say later on that you’re not allowed to fuck your sister.
Deuteronomy 27:22 “Cursed is anyone who sleeps with his sister, the daughter of his father or the daughter of his mother.”

You don’t need to convince me that these arguments aren’t very strong, I literally listed them as failed arguments.

That is not true, inbreeding depression absolutely does happen with siblings. It’s even a thing with cousins, though it is relatively minor.

hmmm, interesting.

I'd wounder if the Deuteronomy is a mistranslation, or a context thing. (i.e. not an actual biblical law, but a law of the times, like the jewish laws of a man marrying his dead brothers wife.

Cause you have the logistical issue of... Seth would have had to marry his sister, since no other single marriageable women existed....

Like, was "Adam and Eve", not "Adam and Eve, O and these 10 other families because of genetic diversity" XD


So I actually went and looked at that verse in context, and honestly, would say it was probably more a law of the culture. Especially given some of the wording like "Whether the daughter of father or mother", and "fathers wives" but leaves out daughters.

One thing is for sure though, it doesn't include cousins.

 

[Otaku_D_Gamer]

W is for Wincest