Backstabbed in a Backwater Dungeon: My Party Tried to Kill Me, But Thanks to an Infinite Gacha I Got LVL 9999 Friends and Am Out For Revenge - Ch. 13…

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...but since this is a JP manga, they'll completely gloss over that and use some "nakamah powa" ending where the beastmen are forgiven, or, in fact, were good guys. What a twist! How humble and kind!

Just for once, I'd like manga authors to actually consider the implications of their characters' actions. And actually follow through with the logical outcome.
...we're reading the same manga right? It feels more like you're projecting what you see as a JP manga trope (how about you read a little wider...literally the power of JP manga is how varied the genres are...and predominantly series that get scanlated follow certain tropes).

The beastmen present are probably all going to end up dogmeat. The ones who are 'forgiven' will end up a vassal...likely forever, with poorer terms than what they themselves afford the Human Kingdom.

The Elves already suffer that fate. All of the current Dark Elven leadership was also executed. The Dwarves have the best deal, but nobody is going to argue they were evil.

Name one instance where bad guys turned out 'good' and they were forgiven. The Dwarves don't count since literally from the moment they were presented, with the exception of Naano, they weren't 'bad'. There's in fact not a single bad guy in this series that didn't end up dead or worse, almost to a comical degree. Where does your whinging come from? What "nakamah powa" bullshit are you interpreting here?
 
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Name one instance where bad guys turned out 'good' and they were forgiven.

It was a hyperbole to illustrate poor writing all too common among isekai/fantasy junkfood genre. Light claims to be in favor of restoring human dignity, as quickly as possible. Yet masqueraded as an adventurer for... reasons.

This is a revenge manga. But the author has written it so the MC takes the most circuitous route possible to achieve his goals. Even the pit exploration arc was filled with tropes. The story/plot/developments, potentially broad, is constrained by the author's limited experience.

It feels more like author is picking dramatic turns they want to see, then wrapping the story around it. Versus logical development common in a properly drafted and storyboarded novel.

See: "Ookami wa Nemuranai". It's based on a WN, and feels more like a "natural" universe. This universe on the other hand feels... wangsty.
 
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"Surrender or we will kill humans. But if you surrender, we will also kill humans!"
You could have at least turn this into a moral dilemma and not have it be a choice between "some humans might die, afterwards they're free" and "humans are livestock".
 
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It was a hyperbole to illustrate poor writing all too common among isekai/fantasy junkfood genre. Light claims to be in favor of restoring human dignity, as quickly as possible. Yet masqueraded as an adventurer for... reasons.

This is a revenge manga. But the author has written it so the MC takes the most circuitous route possible to achieve his goals. Even the pit exploration arc was filled with tropes. The story/plot/developments, potentially broad, is constrained by the author's limited experience.

It feels more like author is picking dramatic turns they want to see, then wrapping the story around it. Versus logical development common in a properly drafted and storyboarded novel.

See: "Ookami wa Nemuranai". It's based on a WN, and feels more like a "natural" universe. This universe on the other hand feels... wangsty.

Now it just sounds like you're fishing for something to criticize while backpedaling faster than a sports car can reverse.

I call you out on you using this series to somehow bang on about Japanese tropes. Then you say its 'hyperbole'...to the extent that NONE of your prior arguments are actually genuine.

Let me quote you.
"I'm really tired of manga that portray comically evil actors with no repercussions whatsoever. It's stereotypically Japanese."

This is what you call 'hyperbole'? A completely untrue, unsubstantiated statement, just meant to 'illustrate' the poor writing. What, not enough examples of poor writing in this series, so you have to invent your own? Entire paragraphs of 'hyperbole', where you actually meant to address a completely different topic than what you implied?

I suppose its a waste of time to correct you on your 'actual' direction as it's 'hyperbole' later too, I'm sure. But heck, I got the time.

The reasons for him posing as an adventurer are plainly and directly spelled out, let alone being secret or mysterious. Since the earliest chapters and multiple times in later chapters. He's amassing information, and he's involving himself because even from early on, he suspects Masters could possibly be more powerful than he is. All of the other 9999s 'cept Nazuna are given other specific tasks, mostly dealing with his revenge, and only he has adventurer experience among the five. Yes, it's a plot device to get him out there so we don't keep shuffling back and forth between only revenge and his office, but there are clearly articulated and sound reasons created for it, and it adds variety to the setting and cast. What is wrong with that?

Perhaps it's because you are under the impression that good stories are written like logical pieces of code, only for the twists and turns and interesting ideas to be carefully selected and inserted. Absolute bullshit. That's what you do when you're writing a B+ grade high schooler essay, ever so well planned and logical. A good story is formed from interesting ideas, plot devices, twists and turns, around which a story is fleshed out and crafted, otherwise what's the point of a story? Hey, that process is what you said! Oh wait...

It's hilarious when you even talk about storyboarding when literally the process of storyboarding is to begin with key frames, before detailing those frames and adding or sorting them to flesh out the rest of the storyline. Literally capturing key moments, before forming and wrapping the rest of the story around them.

As for the style of this series....sure, if you think the setting isn't that realistic. You do you....but as you say its a revenge manga. Look at me, I'm so angry that I got wet when I jumped into the ocean....

And it's funny you name OokaNemu. Certainly, it has a more 'natural' world in that everything is more grounded and people other than the MC have pretty realistic personalities and reactions. But it also suffers from:
  1. Seemingly directionless and obtuse MC who's unbelievably thick.
  2. MC forgiving people or figuring out the 'good' intentions of those who oppose or piss him off, the supposedly dreaded "nakamah powa" development.
  3. Tediously similar story arcs, with very little link between arcs, as if the same storyboard was used over and over with no clear overarching plot.
Sure, it's an otherwise great novel, but those are all things you had an issue with. Is this more of your hyperbole? I can't tell at this point.
 
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