Black Madougushi Guild wo Tsuihousareta Watashi, Oukyuu Majutsushi to shite Hirowareru - Ch. 9
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Highest number and highest rank isn't the same thing. There's nothing wrong with someone being ranked first (rank 1) having the highest rank.
I think he was just waiting for enough time to pass for Noel to come back.
Nothing quite like realizing you've moved to a much better job than your previous one.
It is a(n extremely) common error yes. But there is definitely something very wrong with that
The 1st rank can be the highest rank/higher than 2nd, but rank 1 can't be considered higher than rank 2, even in a system where the rank is considered better, and their position/status/authority is higher.
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I'm pretty sure that Rank 1 is not the first rank you get when arriving, but 1st as in first place, as in the highest rank you can achieve. So the translation is correct, because she's just started her rank is lower, and she's only 8th rank. I imagine there are only a few Rank 1 people, because they are the First rank in order of power/ability, making them ABOVE newbie rank 8 members.
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Putting it another way, Adventurer ranks which use an alphabetical ranking system in many mangas, also go in reverse order. With starting from F at the lowest, to high ranking at A. S-rank and its other variations is like a special exception for those who surpass the norm.
It's most likely that this is not even because of the translator, but the actual writing of this manga.
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While it's a fun chapter and all, I don't see it adding much other than spreading the knowledge of who she is a bit, and that she was offered a high position. It was mostly just Noel being Noel in a way we've already seen plenty of.
I don't see anything wrong with the ranks as written in the chapter. What is "highest" is something you have to derive from the context.
I don't see anything wrong with the ranks as written in the chapter. What is "highest" is something you have to derive from the context.
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It's fine. The ranks appear ordered top to bottom (ie 1st rank is superior to 2nd, which is superior to 3rd, etc. It's more like placements of achievement as you'd do for people competing in a sporting event or something) So the point or intent of those lines is that the royal guard normally only recruits people from the 3rd rank or better (ie 1st, 2nd, or 3rd) while Noel is just 8th rank right now. But they apparently dispensed with the normal rank threshold in order to make a special case to recruit her.
Your suggestions both seem to assume that a higher number = better rank and that as an 8th ranked court magician she surpasses the 3rd rank recruitment threshold but that doesn't appear to be the case.
The translation isn't great but that's not one of their issues.
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It isn't...
Then again, this manga makes a contrast ( if cartoonish ) between Black and White companies, and the things they expect of you.
The potion research team had a crunch ( because of a handy epidemic ), so got swamped and giving an excuse for our MC to shine. By dealing with all the "minor stuff" and allowing the experts to do their actual job.
It happens in every company.
In contrast, the 3rd is White to the point of being silly.
That's just as unsustainable as the Black Guild our MC came from in the long run.
If you treat this Manga as a cartoon manual on "What to look out for in a company, and what to dodge.", you wouldn't be wrong.
After all, it's terribly Impolite to directly criticise people/companies for their practices and Culture. Especially if that criticism is aimed at future employees..
Doubly so given that Quitting Your Job in Japan is akin to High Treason to the Company That Invested In Your Growth, etc.. With Getting Fired coming in a solid second. A thing that quite a few companies use as leverage to keep their employees in line.
But no-one can really complain about a silly fantasy story about a brave heroïne overcoming challenges and attaining Growth.
After all... it's just a fantasy story... With possibly a wholesome educational element..
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its a ranking by hirarchy, so its correct to refere to her as the lowest as her ranks hirarchial standing is lower then the others and would be, if they accepted the offer, the lowest one they ever hired by far.
I don't think anyone thought that was the case in this manga?
lowest*
Generally 1st place refers to the best position, but that is because you want as low of a placing as possible. A higher position is worse.
That's what I said before, that the ppl themselves have a higher authority. And that is why they get a lower rank.
No. I am assuming that higher number = worse rank. No clue how you got the opposite impression. And mc has a poor rank, because it is high.
So either they want to hire lower-ranked ppl for their higher competence (most likely), in which case mc doesn't apply and them seeking her is an exception. Or higher-ranked ppl for their lack of allegiances and to up the average of the entire organization (very unlikely, but still a possibility), in which case the dialog is meant to imply that they are going by the rules/tradition.
Like I said, this is an extremely common error ppl often do, where they call the top-rankers as "high-ranked" (and vice versa). The words "top", "better", etc, and "high" are all similar words, but there is a clear difference when it comes to the ordering of integers, where "high" means something distinctly different from the others. That, in addition to how ppl generally associate the rank to someone's social standing (which is correct to call "higher"), makes this error
No, it is correct to refer her social/hierarchical standing as low, but what they are saying is that her rank (8) is low instead.
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Stop confusing yourself by focusing more on the math than the social and linguistic aspects.
1st rank is high rank, this is common parlance, and not confusing to most English readers, it's perfectly fine, and the translator was correct to use it.
You can justify your version all you like, but all it's going to do is confuse people, and the goal of communication is to express ideas accurately. When being accurate to mathematical use of a term gets in the way of that, it's sacrificed to the gods of clarity. If you manage to convince enough people that somehow your version makes more sense, and the people that believe that become a plurality, THEN it makes sense to chastise the translator over it. But right now, the way they used those terms is correct, because it's how most everyone else understands those terms. And again, clearly expressing ideas is the most important role of language, which they have succeeded at.
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