Bokutachi no Remake

[Solitude]

Needs Time Travel theme added.

 

[MolaCola]

so he's a guy with the mind of a 28 yr old in his 18 yr old body
and has a thing for "middle school looking" girls
i see no problems (ch 2.2 tries to dismiss what happens in chapter 1.2 by being self aware, not fallin for it, i guarantee you 10 chapters in he's gonna be back to blushin over Shinoaki)

 

[Solipsist]

@Sceleris
And all of what you wrote, added together on top of a very important topic in the story -- that it all may be just an illusion.
Thus far, it was more implied that the plot resides within a dream, than it was within reality. So even if you're the type to enjoy watching a person get an impossible second chance that you'd never get, it is still a story in which any possible achievement you're rooting for the MC to get, may be completely bloody pointless; seeing as it's all an ideal script made within a fantastical bubble that's soon to burst.

The story is much more depressing as it is right now, than it is "inspiring", or any other form of positive sensation. Right now, I can only imagine the story ending with the MC waking up in his mother's house, 28 years old. Every experience within the story completely retconned and thrown to the bin. That's just depressing.

 

[MolaCola]

@Sceleris isn't it kinda like that though?
going to college, amassing huge amounts of debt to most likely still get a lower end job with no means of applying yourself
-with immediate needs that must be met you can easily find yourself in a hole
getting into a prestigious university on your own merits/connections or daddi's real estate fraud money, said university having programs that assist you in getting connections you wouldn't know how to get otherwise.
i digress, the phrasing is cringey but you could argue that the M.C has faith in his ability to succeed if given the same opportunity as the platinum gen
imo
personally i think being defeatist is rather nice b/c i am one myself

 

[Kaizo]

@Solipsist If you take it that way, with everything being a dream, then be reminded: It could still act as kind of trigger to says "Now more than ever!" and working ones ass off. And then such stories usually end up with a chance meeting of someone from within the dream, who faintly smiles as if he/she would remember you. Disregarding that when you are in RL, you can have the motivational burst from a simple dream regardless. Also, there's a thing called "Pessimism" who, given a light at the end of a tunnel, have to check if they are standing on rails.

Btw: You could apply the dream-thing to most stories where you are transported/isekai'd without dying.... There's even a story where an other-worldly being came to you through the dream, and you have to take care of it.

 

[Sceleris]

@TheGTF You make a good point about the importance of prestige and opportunity. If his ideal job is as a non-creative producer (there is creativity in it, of course, but relatively speaking) who brings great creative talents together, then yeah, that's true, prestige and opportunity would mean much. An unaccomplished illustrator or writer or musician can still make an impressive portfolio or achieve an underground popularity on Pixiv/Shōsetsuka ni Narō/Niconico and get a foot in the door that way, but as a producer he basically has only his education and his résumé, and at the outset, neither is gonna land him a dream job. Although, on the other hand, he did also say he wanted to make his own company (or he could commit to keep trying), so I still think he's not at a dead end yet.

@Solipsist Not sure if I agree that it's implied to be a dream. I mean, yeah, it's an idealized fantasy, but I find that's just a common feature where they overdo it with the lucky coincidences (I'd be surprised if the other housemates WEREN'T who we suspect). But I, like Kaizo here, also don't find the “it's all a dream” approach meaningless, at least depending on the story as a whole. Like, if it's about someone who has some strictly internal hang-up about their past, then a dream that helps him/her deal with that hang-up and get beyond it in reality, can be positive for the character and inspirational for the reader. (Even if the character learns nothing and it's a negative, it could still be inspirational, in a don't-be-like-that-guy kind of thing.) That might not apply to this case, though. For one, it seems to me that the series presents the protagonist's problem as mostly external: it's not a problem of mindset, but a problem of where he went to school. Secondly, the issue of getting onto the right career track at 18 seems to play a secondary role to simply just having a “rose-colored campus life” – which, if it's a dream, is kind of fitting!

@MolaCola Yeah, I do agree in a sense (see my reply to TheGTF), but I've got to admit I prefer stories about those who persist in the face of difficulties… even though I'm not as much of a fighter as I'd want to be!

 

[Solipsist]

@Kaizo
@Sceleris
Can't say I don't agree with that. I thought about what ya'll said after I submitted my comment.
On one hand, if it is a dream -- it CAN enable the MC to later on apply himself.
And merely having a slice-of-life "enjoy your college days" is also acceptable.

The thing is, for me, if the entire story centers on the MC trying to reach a certain peak, and then have that peak evaporate into nothingness....People jumped out of buildings because of it, and none of them thought that rendering years of their hard-work into nothing was an inspirational tale to try harder next time.
(An exaggeration for sure, there's a difference between the "failure" of a 50 years old, and a 20~30 years old, but you get the gist here -- while the story has the potential to be positive, it can so easily become a negative cesspit of depression.)

And regarding the whole "Isekai stories invalidate your achievements after you zap away back to your old world". Not wrong, but the main difference here is that the story is either built as a motif (hero's journey, blah blah, overcome his previous fears, etc), or that the MC's strengths carry over. He only lost the relationships, nothing else.
In this sort of story, that so harshly prioritized prestige of schools, and the specific relationships you form, rather then your own merit and ability? Hard to see that apply.

TLDR: If the entire point of the story is to shut down the MC's negative self-approach, that he "cannot find his own way to "shine"" -- and thus actually contribute to his character, rather then formulate a perfect reality around him -- sure, most of my rants do not apply. But as I said, thus far, the story really doesn't seem to want to do that. I find it hard to even capture what the story even wants to do, anyway.

 

[Sceleris]

@Solipsist Hahah, speaking of failure of 50 year olds, now I started imagining that kind of nothingness-ending to something like Sumika Sumire: woman lives 60 years for her parents sake, finds when they die that she has no friends, no family and not even the experience of ever having had a boyfriend. Luckily a ghost cat makes her into a young girl again so she can be a romantic shōjo manga heroine, but if it ends with all being just a dream, good lord that's depressing.

 

[CrownedTraitor]

This is a slice of life, kinda thing, except for the rewind part.

I rate it a 10, since it mainly focuses on real life events, that typically happen in colleges

You meet (savant) teachers that talk to you like an a-hole, its normal and I appreciate the normalcy?

 

[Zenith_Tempest]

I'm expecting the twist to be that he influenced everyone there into becoming the successes that they were in his timeline, and at the end he will return to his timeline a changed person

 

[siscon]

I kind of want to find out why the title is boku"tachi" no remake instead of boku no remake. There must be a reason for this.

 

[Kinji]

Haha. That previous comment... we shall see

 

[grom]

boobs are well drawed. 10/10 😃

 

[Shikina]

Is this going tobe ntr?

 

[siscon]

@Shikina
Everything is NTR if you try hard enough.

 

[Elbow]

People later in life regretting not having gone into arts for better job prospects rather than the other way around lol. I can tell that the millions of Americans who went into arts and ended up with low-wage employment and massive student loans will have trouble self-inserting into this.

 

[dantziel]

feeling sakurasou vibe here

 

[Sem]

This one makes me kind of uncomfortable. It's some extremely warped wishful thinking. I'm an artist that did spend 4 years at a well known art school, and while a handful of us did graduate and enter some well known companies, most of us just burned out and spent years after graduation recovering and finding a more stable balance between blind ambition and well, eating and sleeping. Of those who entered large studios and those who entered smaller studios or other work, it seems like there isn't significant difference in our day to day lives. No matter if your project is obscure or well known, the 9 to 5 grind is all the same.

Becoming skilled and famous isn't purely a good thing. In the same sort of topic as this comic, I can't help but remember Kenshi Yonezu's song Loser. He's a well known old vocaloid producer and current singer-songwriter. Loser is a song about him wondering whether or not he, now 25 and a superstar, is even happy. If Kenshi Yonezu, the ultimate internet success story, isn't even sure if he's happy with the fame he now has, is it really worth that much?

Success doesn't lead to happiness. Large companies can be equally as scummy as smaller ones. Happiness might be found outside of professional success. I kind of want to shake the main character and tell him to stop complaining about what he should have done ten years ago and instead, start catching up to them from his current point in life.

 

[KobeisGOAT]

From the premise and story telling, you pretty much know this is based on a light novel. Good art though but boring.

 

[Tcof]

"This is a story about a failed person who is given a second opportunity"
- From the tittle, it also sound like ReLife