Chisa X Pon
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Reading this is like self harming.
There's 8 volumes of this manga and the last scanalation was over 5 years ago and was only of the first volume according to Baka-Updates?? You can't even find a place to buy the entire series, let alone read it online, what gives? Man I hate when stuff like this happens. Well. I guess I'll just have to settle for an incomplete version, as usual. It honestly feels like only the absolute most popular stuff ever escapes Japan. I get why, but it's still frustrating when a series I want to read just gets dropped by the translators. Hell, you can't even buy the 5 volumes on the Japanese store due to location restrictions.
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The author is dead huh?...I would have liked to continue reading it if it were to be translated, guess not
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Pity to see no comments about the new releases for this series. It's one of those stories that gets a very undeserved bad rep in my opinion, largely because of mistranslations and people who just looked at pictures and decided that it was something it wasn't. And of course then people went up in flames because the girl decided that the only thing she hadn't tried to try and banish a bastard from her mind was to "forgive" him. Can only hope as the story continues people's opinions might change. Not a masterpiece, but still a very good work that clearly put a lot of effort into the effects of certain events on the characters.
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It's a drama about sex, not erotica. At least that's my opinion. I never found the sex remotely sexy either, just the subject matter in the story: an examination of the sexual side of a relationship, all the ways you can screw things up and the sort of consequences that can come from them.
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^ Fully agreed. This was definitely a story that pivots around sex, as both a concept and an activity. I haven't reread this in a bit, but I remember I was honestly impressed that this title takes a lot of time to really give time to how the social perception and pressures that both the MCs felt affected their experiences with each other. If I recall, the early story dwells on things like gendered expectations vs reality, how to make an informed decision when you're inexperienced, and even what giving and taking look like in a romantic and sexual relationship.
I can't remember my exact feelings on the later arcs bc I definitely feel like the current arc, to me, feels out of place with all the things I just mentioned. But I do think those earlier parts of this series definitely shows a lot of care in the writing and it tried taking a shot at complex matters. It's not a masterpiece I'd push onto others, but I think it's pretty interesting and not badly made for what it is. It actually left an impression on me long enough to write all this, I guess.
I dunno, my thought reading this was that it'd be cool to read more manga that writes it like this. Different libidos, different sexual needs, etc. after your first times are all also actually pretty realistic issues, and figuring out how to compromise or work around them in realistic ways is actually kinda hot? It's like, if fiction has the power to explore what could be when things aren't just super toxic or ecchi situations, I'd personally enjoy reading experimental stuff like that once in a while too.
I can't remember my exact feelings on the later arcs bc I definitely feel like the current arc, to me, feels out of place with all the things I just mentioned. But I do think those earlier parts of this series definitely shows a lot of care in the writing and it tried taking a shot at complex matters. It's not a masterpiece I'd push onto others, but I think it's pretty interesting and not badly made for what it is. It actually left an impression on me long enough to write all this, I guess.
I dunno, my thought reading this was that it'd be cool to read more manga that writes it like this. Different libidos, different sexual needs, etc. after your first times are all also actually pretty realistic issues, and figuring out how to compromise or work around them in realistic ways is actually kinda hot? It's like, if fiction has the power to explore what could be when things aren't just super toxic or ecchi situations, I'd personally enjoy reading experimental stuff like that once in a while too.
You gotta feel for the Mc here , it’s pretty messed Up what happened to the fmc regardless of peoples view points on the matter of her putting herself in that situation. Ultimately it was the guy that made the decision to rape her. It’s just kind of annoying how she mentioned orgamazing several times throughout the story and i don’t understand Russian but you can tell it impacted the Mc in chapters 34 since he was not able to bring her to orgasm. let’s be real a lot of guys wouldn’t be able to get that image from there heads hence why most Similar situations of couples end up separating. I get the message the story is trying to tell that what matters is the spiritual part of it and her love for him but that shit still hurts.
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Depends on your definition. If for you it's NTR anytime a MC's significant other has sexual relations, consensual or not, even once, with someone else, then yes this is technically NTR. However,
This was indeed a one-time thing and far from consensual. She was dumb to trust the guy, but she was raped. Absurdly, the rapist didn't see anything wrong with raping her when he thought she was experienced, but clearly considers raping a virgin to be an absolutely unforgivable sin. Regardless, the story takes the rape issue very seriously and does a good examination of how such trauma impacts a person and her relationships, both short- and long-term.
Eh yeah even forced I'd consider it NTR. Does it happen in current time or the past?
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Occurs in chapter 13.
Prior to that point Chisa and Ponta were going through rough times. They weren't able to consummate, and the frustrations from that combined with jealousy upon learning that one of Chisa's coworkers is a womanizer who's openly targeting her, Ponta went way too far over Spring break, until Chisa, hurting, and convinced he'd abandon her soon, tried to convince herself that she could like another man by going on a date with her coworker. She realizes immediately that she'd instead only confirmed that there was no room in her heart for anyone else (though the previous translation team mistranslated that part) and told Takigawa she was cutting all ties with him. Takigawa convinced her to come by his house, saying his mother would be there, to listen to a piano piece he wrote. He drugs her tea, sends obscene photos to Ponta, and then torments Chisa when she wakes up until her mind can't take it anymore and she enters a sort of dissociated state where she can't bring herself to care what's happening. The fact that she willingly went to Takigawa's house, that she didn't resist when he finally did it, and that he was able to easily bring her to climax (man has tons of experience) really mess with her, maybe even more than the simple fact that her virginity had just been stolen. After it's all said and done, Ponta tries to patch things up only for Chisa, who sees it as him thinking her far purer than she feels she ever could be, to break up with him. The next volume focuses on Ponta's efforts to help Chisa come to grips with what happened and begin healing, which in the process leads to them once more becoming a couple.
If you just don't want any stories where any such things happen, then yeah this's probably not for you. However, if how it's handled and where it leads are important to you, I'd still recommend it. It's a hard read, but they fight hard to overcome their problems and find happiness together. It's frankly not that often that you see a guy, let alone a teen, so determined to help a girl no matter what happens.
Honestly, part of what I liked is simply the fact that the author took the subject matter so seriously. Often, virginity is treated as an absolute must, to the point that even when authors try to tackle subjects like this they come up with ridiculous excuses for why the girl was never actually deflowered. On top of that, what trauma exists is typically overcome easily without any need for long-term help. I mean, usually therapy doesn't seem to even exist, yet here, therapy is almost the very first thing Chisa's mother thinks of when she learns what happened.
As I said before, it's a very hard read, but an interesting one. I myself typically prefer simple stories with very pure and innocent love stories, but this one caught my attention and I wanted to see it completed.
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This alone made the bad rep it has well deserved, let alone how the events actually led up to the whole shenigan. Don't get me wrong, Ponta was kind of a dick sometimes, but the whole story felt like a realistic depiction of a coming of age story about teenagers, almost adults. With that arc, and how with the aftermath, it completely destroyed that buildup and the quality took a massive nosedive.
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