Chiyu Mahou no Machigatta Tsukaikata: Senjou wo Kakeru Kaifuku Youin - Vol. 12 Ch. 58

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Take it from someone who's survived that kind of psychological abuse.

That's not something you wish on other people. No matter what. Not even as a joke. Not even as a meme.

Reason being? When a traumatic experience is severe enough, it tends to fuse the neural paths in your brain that lead to the emotional response that experience caused. In other words, you literally have scars in your gray matter that short-circuits your emotional responses. To put it in a way that's easy to understand, it's like a deep scratch in a vinyl record. Every time the stylus hits it, it jumps down the path the scratch made instead.

And there is no cure for that. Not until modern medical science improves to the point where we have nanotech that can be used to undo that kind of damage.

And the people who are "cured"? They're not. They're just working around it. This is why "triggers" are such a big deal for them. Because it doesn't matter what you or anyone else thinks. Once the stylus hits that scratch? Pretty much their entire day is ruined.

And that is not a life you should be wishing upon anyone.
Yeah I have a friend that had PTSD due to his relatives abuse. He had severe trust issue because of that
 
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Thanks for the translation!

Tho I hope they move the story along now... We've been in this side story arc for the over a year now.
 
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You are weird.
Nope. Not weird at all.

Though it's not weird, either, to have a lack of empathy. It's just that it suggests a certain degree of psychopathy. And a smart psychopath who knows what they are doesn't want to elude much to their status as a psychopath unless they're among people they can trust to not overreact. There is, unfortunately, quite a stigma against that kind of thing.
 
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Nope. Not weird at all.

Though it's not weird, either, to have a lack of empathy. It's just that it suggests a certain degree of psychopathy. And a smart psychopath who knows what they are doesn't want to elude much to their status as a psychopath unless they're among people they can trust to not overreact. There is, unfortunately, quite a stigma against that kind of thing.
My guy it's weird to have the same level of empathy for PIXELS and expect other to do the same. Sure i can empathize with a fictional character, but it's not on the same level as real human beings. And even then my empathy entirely depends on how good the character was written and what's his role is and said empathy can disappear if only bad things keep happening to the character.
 
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My guy it's weird to have the same level of empathy for PIXELS and expect other to do the same. Sure i can empathize with a fictional character, but it's not on the same level as real human beings. And even then my empathy entirely depends on how good the character was written and what's his role is and said empathy can disappear if only bad things keep happening to the character.
I never said anything about exactly how much empathy one should have. Keep in mind, my original nitpick was that you shouldn't be wishing things like PTSD on anyone, because it's such a wildly extreme form of suffering.

It's one thing to want to see consequences in a story. It's another to wish for a consequence that has a tendency to drive people into insanity and suicide, if not a lifetime of suffering and grief.
 
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Take it from someone who's survived that kind of psychological abuse.

That's not something you wish on other people. No matter what. Not even as a joke. Not even as a meme.

Reason being? When a traumatic experience is severe enough, it tends to fuse the neural paths in your brain that lead to the emotional response that experience caused. In other words, you literally have scars in your gray matter that short-circuits your emotional responses. To put it in a way that's easy to understand, it's like a deep scratch in a vinyl record. Every time the stylus hits it, it jumps down the path the scratch made instead.

And there is no cure for that. Not until modern medical science improves to the point where we have nanotech that can be used to undo that kind of damage.

And the people who are "cured"? They're not. They're just working around it. This is why "triggers" are such a big deal for them. Because it doesn't matter what you or anyone else thinks. Once the stylus hits that scratch? Pretty much their entire day is ruined.

And that is not a life you should be wishing upon anyone.
ok cool label me anything you want but it's called consequence for a reason. mc is reckless therefore he has to deal with consequences, like it or not but that's how reality works. i don't wanna hope for a plot armor when he needs the character development. now this is gonna be the decisive moment if author just wants an OP mc with reckless behavior for the sake of helping people that learns from his recklessness or not.
 
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ok cool label me anything you want but it's called consequence for a reason. mc is reckless therefore he has to deal with consequences, like it or not but that's how reality works. i don't wanna hope for a plot armor when he needs the character development. now this is gonna be the decisive moment if author just wants an OP mc with reckless behavior for the sake of helping people that learns from his recklessness or not.
Don't put words in my mouth. I never put any sort of label on you.

All I said is that psychological issues are not something you should be wishing upon other people. Nothing more. Nothing less.
 
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Don't put words in my mouth. I never put any sort of label on you.

All I said is that psychological issues are not something you should be wishing upon other people. Nothing more. Nothing less.
ok sorry about the label thing i said but you're focusing on the wrong subject about my comment, my guy.

like.. grimmycoffee said this:
While the details can be argued, it is definitely fitting that he receives some consequences for his recklessness, especially since this chapter said that he's weak against psychological damage.
what i'm hoping is just that we get to see that consequences of mc's actions considering authors tends to give their mc a slap to the wrist despite displaying self destructive decisions.
 
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I don't wish anything would happen to Usato, but he needs to face the consequences of his recklessness. It puts both him and those around him in danger. I believe he has the potential to grow, but he needs a push. It wouldn't make much sense if he got out of the psychological attacks unscathed.
 
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Take it from someone who's survived that kind of psychological abuse.

That's not something you wish on other people. No matter what. Not even as a joke. Not even as a meme.

Reason being? When a traumatic experience is severe enough, it tends to fuse the neural paths in your brain that lead to the emotional response that experience caused. In other words, you literally have scars in your gray matter that short-circuits your emotional responses. To put it in a way that's easy to understand, it's like a deep scratch in a vinyl record. Every time the stylus hits it, it jumps down the path the scratch made instead.

And there is no cure for that. Not until modern medical science improves to the point where we have nanotech that can be used to undo that kind of damage.

And the people who are "cured"? They're not. They're just working around it. This is why "triggers" are such a big deal for them. Because it doesn't matter what you or anyone else thinks. Once the stylus hits that scratch? Pretty much their entire day is ruined.

And that is not a life you should be wishing upon anyone.
On the one hand, I'm like: "Bruh, chill; it’s just a manga."
But... on the otro Mano... yeah; you're spot on, and I'm with you 100%
You don't wish that shit on people, cos it's truly bad.
 
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Good Chapter!
I just came back to this after a few months and had to pick up at Chapter 40... this ride is wild!
 
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Poor Nea, just getting thrown like a pillow. MC should care enough to not make his personal servant worry like that. Btw, Eva's potential of being a heroine is now decreasing... NOOOO!!!
 
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I like how people are arguing for "realistic consequences" when they're talking about magical ghosts attacking him with psychological attacks by biting him that just somehow harm him mentally.

It's so deep into fantasy that there is no comparison for how it should work relative to reality, nor is there a good measurement in-story for what it would actually do to him other than the characters' speculations.
 
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Just what magic can tie down Usato's legs? And even if they do, I think they'll have a hard time chewing on a body of steel... Let's just hope Nea can prevent him from losing his mind, now that'd be a real disaster comparable to the evil dragon I fear :worry:
 
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How ironic. These souls are actually justified with their actions. This is the king who said to MC he's only using slavery and demihuman prejudice as political distraction. The fact that the slaved souls are trying to attack the king is so funny.
 
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Some people here seem to have difficulty differentiating between fiction and reality, they're pixels that don't have physical form.
If they were real people, actual people in this reality that you could meet and actively converse with or touch than yes, wishing them harmful consequences like morbid depression and PTSD would be a bit of a dick move and lacking some empathy but they aren't, I can hate a fictional character and wish eternal suffering upon them while still empathising with real people.
 

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