Chou Kaguya-hime! - Vol. 1 Ch. 5

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The omnipresent man who inevitably shows up saying "I challenge you at this thing and if I win you have to marry me/become my property" is a trope I would love to see relegated to the dustbin of manga & anime history.

It's just the dumbest setup of drama/tension and forever makes them detestable, and more often than not it's just swept under the rug as "just a joke bro" when they lose to the protags, and no one questions how problematic that sort of thing is.

But more importantly I hope she starts to deprogram from how horrific her mom seems to be, sooner than later. Even to a self-proclaimed alien.
 
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This series really is going so fast its a bit hard to be emotionally invested. Is it weird I kinda dislike kaguya? Her absurd spending habits really got brushed under the rug. Along with how the hell she even became famous aside from protagonist plot convenience (And leeching off of iroha endlessly)
 
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This series really is going so fast its a bit hard to be emotionally invested. Is it weird I kinda dislike kaguya? Her absurd spending habits really got brushed under the rug. Along with how the hell she even became famous aside from protagonist plot convenience (And leeching off of iroha endlessly)
Same. Kaguya drains 99% of iroha's bank acount at a time when Iroha's insanely stressed and would probably have cracked under the pressure if i had to be honest.
 
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The omnipresent man who inevitably shows up saying "I challenge you at this thing and if I win you have to marry me/become my property" is a trope I would love to see relegated to the dustbin of manga & anime history.

It's just the dumbest setup of drama/tension and forever makes them detestable, and more often than not it's just swept under the rug as "just a joke bro" when they lose to the protags, and no one questions how problematic that sort of thing is.

But more importantly I hope she starts to deprogram from how horrific her mom seems to be, sooner than later. Even to a self-proclaimed alien.
It gets recontextualized in a way that subverts the trope really nicely, so just stick with it.
Same. Kaguya drains 99% of iroha's bank acount at a time when Iroha's insanely stressed and would probably have cracked under the pressure if i had to be honest.
This also gets addressed. I would really advise everyone here to go watch the movie; it's a lot slower paced compared to the manga, and it gives a much different vibe. It's also just the superior way of experiencing Kaguya, but that's neither here nor there.
 
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The omnipresent man who inevitably shows up saying "I challenge you at this thing and if I win you have to marry me/become my property" is a trope I would love to see relegated to the dustbin of manga & anime history.

It's just the dumbest setup of drama/tension and forever makes them detestable, and more often than not it's just swept under the rug as "just a joke bro" when they lose to the protags, and no one questions how problematic that sort of thing is.

But more importantly I hope she starts to deprogram from how horrific her mom seems to be, sooner than later. Even to a self-proclaimed alien.
I will say that if any story is going to utilize this trope, one based on the legend of Princess Kaguya is pretty suited for it. It also does actually have a function in this story that is actualized rather than swept under the rug, at least in terms of character motivations.

But yeah as the other comment said, if you're reading this standalone, please just watch the movie. It's the original source and the best way to experience the story, the manga is far inferior to it even if it has its charms.
 
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the anime went downhill around this point
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This also gets addressed. I would really advise everyone here to go watch the movie; it's a lot slower paced compared to the manga, and it gives a much different vibe. It's also just the superior way of experiencing Kaguya, but that's neither here nor there.
I did. I know she pays her back. That doesn't really absolve her. If I was already pushed to my wit's end and then I learned my bank account was drained with rent, groceries, whatever coming up, it doesn't really matter if in the future I get that money doubled or anything. In the present day I'd feel so fucked I don't even want to do anything anymore. And it's not like Kaguya was sharing streaming profits, or at least if she was it wasn't high enough because Iroha still has her vacation fully booked with work.
 
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This series really is going so fast its a bit hard to be emotionally invested. Is it weird I kinda dislike kaguya? Her absurd spending habits really got brushed under the rug. Along with how the hell she even became famous aside from protagonist plot convenience (And leeching off of iroha endlessly)
Watch the movie if youre having a hard time getting emotionally invested in the manga
 
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This series really is going so fast its a bit hard to be emotionally invested. Is it weird I kinda dislike kaguya? Her absurd spending habits really got brushed under the rug. Along with how the hell she even became famous aside from protagonist plot convenience (And leeching off of iroha endlessly)
You should watch the movie.
This manga is written base on the movie so it could be a little rush, less detailed and also this series heavily focus on music so it easily harder to be emotionally invested if you just read the manga.
 
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the manga is basically just a promotional piece for the movie, you're really not getting a great experience reading it on its own. the movie is genuinely incredible and paced much better.
Damn, I'm so used to see failed anime adaptation with thriving manga to the point it felt weird that it happened the other way ariund
 
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Thanks for the translation. It's a bit weirdly paced which makes it hard to get invested, but guess I need to go watch the movie after reading the comments.
 
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You'd be surprised how normal strict parents are over here though kaguya

Bum as brother, you already lost to yer sister like weeks ago so give it a rest
And wasn't there like a small buffer in the anime before immediately jumping into the match? At the very least I recall the black onyx in their dark room

Slightly suspicious we could have kaguya tell him no, reject his marriage proposal actually I recall a clear rejection but perhaps it wasn't this early but at the end of the match which is cool

Aight have a nice day
 
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Slightly suspicious we could have kaguya tell him no, reject his marriage proposal actually I recall a clear rejection but perhaps it wasn't this early but at the end of the match which is cool
So I did some research and found some evidence on why I keep seeing claims of the mangaka being homophobic cause you can't trust the Internet

Yeah I see why now especially rewatching some of the anime and realizing HOW FUCKING MUCH THEY CUT OUT IN THAT ONE SCENE, THAT'S THE WHOLE BLACK ONYX ENTRANCE WE SKIPPED, in their attempt at compacting the story it's now become a rushed mess of jumping around
Not to mention the panel they added that adds nothing, what are you expanding on here?

And I respond to my own comment to say I watched the anime through discovering the manga, that I'm thankful for and now that I know the story I don't need to stick around to see how it turns out
I've experienced all the Yuri here there is to be I needn't remain for the inferior version
 

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