Class no Gal ni Kuuki Atsukai Sareteimasu - Ch. 21

[danvolodar]

"A promiscuous woman"

Fantastic. And what does "promiscuous" mean in that definition?
Or, as that joke about the question to get a C goes, is force per chance measured in newtons?
Does "promiscuous" per chance mean "having a lot of different sexual partners or sexual relationships"?
Which is the direct opposite of the girl monopolizing air-kun, and sleeping with him exclusively throughout the story?

 

[BuyVelomobiles]

Can you point out anywhere where it has said she's slept with anyone else? Because everything you just said there seems to be you just making stuff up based on stereotypes.

The title. And everything the author's put out. Yes, it's a stereotype. Guess why. This isn't exactly Bisque Doll, where the sexually open Gyaru is also simultaneously an innocent virgin by sheer anime logic.

Fantastic. And what does "promiscuous" mean in that definition?

If you need me to tell you what "promiscuous" means, you're lost, and there's nothing I can do for you.

 

[Landale]

The title. And everything the author's put out. Yes, it's a stereotype. Guess why. This isn't exactly Bisque Doll, where the sexually open Gyaru is also simultaneously an innocent virgin by sheer anime logic.

The title is "The Gyarus in My Class Treat Me Like Air". Not a single word there about sleeping around. As for what the author's put out, well I see another crazy but loyal girl and something about slimes and potions. Still not seeing slut stuff. Thank you for confirming that you're just making stuff up.

 

[BuyVelomobiles]

The title is "The Gyarus in My Class Treat Me Like Air". Not a single word there about sleeping around.

"Gyaru"

Not a single word there about sleeping around. As for what the author's put out, well I see another crazy but loyal girl and something about slimes and potions. Still not seeing slut stuff. Thank you for confirming that you're just making stuff up.

Sexually experienced gold digger baby traps easy mark. I'm pretty sure you know what the premise is. Are you telling us you think she's a virgin?

 

[Landale]

"Gyaru"

Sexually experienced gold digger baby traps easy mark. I'm pretty sure you know what the premise is. Are you telling us you think she's a virgin?

Gyaru is just a type of fashion. Now if it had said "Bitch", specifically "ビッチ", given that that is synonymous with sluts you might have a point.
There's absolutely nothing saying she's sexually experienced. Aggressive, certainly, but experienced no. You're still just running on assumptions.

 

[BuyVelomobiles]

Gyaru is just a type of fashion.

It's an entire subculture. Their portrayal as normal, moral human beings is a direct subversion of the stereotype.

Look, I get it- you're not plugged into Japanese culture, so you just absorb the superficial depictions you see. But these happen in the cultural context of Japan. Nobody explains that Gyarus are unlikeable sluts because everyone already starts with the image. Only when you understand the stereotype do you begin to see the real story at play. Bisque Doll is a subversive work because the main Gyaru protagonist is a virgin (As far as I know) despite showing every single sign of being part of the Gyaru subculture- all the way down to the tongue piercing. She's played entirely straight except for the fact that she's actually "pure".

Until you know this, you think the story is literally just a fashionable girl making unlikely friends with an otaku, and that this is the twist.

There's absolutely nothing saying she's sexually experienced. Aggressive, certainly, but experienced no. You're still just running on assumptions.

Even moving past the obvious "Gyaru" thing, she's aggressive, and didn't bleed when she put it in, or otherwise comment on how it was her first time. You might ignore her aggressive attitude by just dismissing this as porn. Porn doesn't run on logic, so a virgin acting like a mega slut is nothing new. But the lack of bleed, or comment on it being her first time basically confirms she's done this many times before, since if a porn author wants a character to be a virgin, it's very deliberately pointed out somehow.

 

[Landale]

Even moving past the obvious "Gyaru" thing, she's aggressive, and didn't bleed when she put it in, or otherwise comment on how it was her first time. You might ignore her aggressive attitude by just dismissing this as porn. Porn doesn't run on logic, so a virgin acting like a mega slut is nothing new. But the lack of bleed, or comment on it being her first time basically confirms she's done this many times before, since if a porn author wants a character to be a virgin, it's very deliberately pointed out somehow.

A lack of bleeding proves absolutely nothing. All you are doing is assuming things. That's it, that's all you have. Meanwhile, right here on page 2, she outright states that she's only had sex with him. https://mangadex.org/chapter/f1d211bc-1ef7-4735-bb78-1f215d068e3c/2
Of all the negative labels this chick qualifies for, slut is not one of them.

 

[animan095]

Welp that was extremely concise

 

[ZoronCraft]

It's an entire subculture. Their portrayal as normal, moral human beings is a direct subversion of the stereotype.

let's read what you gave us here.

What’s “gyaru,” you ask? It was essentially a counterculture that reacted against against traditional Japanese standards of female beauty back in the late 1990s to the early 2000s; 9 times out of 10, you would find girls with bleach-blond hair, fake tans, and bright and colorful outfits and accessories that made them stand out from the plain and prim styles that Japanese girls typically conformed to.

This is subculture about fashion, you moron. She likes fashion, which is opposite of the prim Japanese standard. And because of this, you're telling us she's not only not a virgin but also a slut (which, again, is defined as someone who sleeps with many people and not someone who wears revealing clothes).

Even moving past the obvious "Gyaru" thing, she's aggressive, and didn't bleed when she put it in, or otherwise comment on how it was her first time. You might ignore her aggressive attitude by just dismissing this as porn. Porn doesn't run on logic, so a virgin acting like a mega slut is nothing new. But the lack of bleed, or comment on it being her first time basically confirms she's done this many times before, since if a porn author wants a character to be a virgin, it's very deliberately pointed out somehow.

My guy, girl can tear her hymen when having fun with herself.

 

[Yamato06]

Abe is proud of them

 

[AnacondaHL]

lol, lmao

 

[danvolodar]

If you need me to tell you what "promiscuous" means, you're lost, and there's nothing I can do for you.

You force me to tell you just in case it's another word for which you have your own definition.

Btw, have another: Gyaru (Japanese: ギャル) pronounced [ɡʲa̠ꜜɾɯ̟ᵝ], is a Japanese fashion subculture.

 

[monkeywarrior333]

DAMN

though I guess this means this series will be ending soon...

 

[BuyVelomobiles]

This is subculture about fashion, you moron.

Gyaru characters in anime have been portrayed in a stereotypical light since the trend’s first appearance: flashy, loud, promiscuous, and very upfront with their desires.

What happened to reading? Look, again: I get it. You're not plugged into the culture at all, so you think this is coming out of nowhere. But don't call me a moron because of your own ignorance, it makes you look bad. The entire point of the article is that Galko chan was "Defying stereotypes" in the first place. What did you think the stereotypes were?

Let me give you more reading, and directly quote the bit explaining the history of this (Since you're bad at reading):

But when the Diet singled these magazines out for bad influence on youth in 1984, the “gal” became further stereotyped as sexually promiscuous, and the term took on generally negative connotations (Namba). Men’s magazines amplified this nuance by using gal to describe the young participants on the era’s sexually provocative TV shows All Night Fuji or Onyanko Club’s Yūyake Nyan Nyan.

Crucially, it doesn't matter if the stereotype is accurate. The fact that it's a stereotype means that it can be used as a shortcut for character exposition. The moment you see it in a story, the stereotype becomes 100% true in the context of the story, and from there the author can play with the tropes surrounding them as they see fit; the author has gone ahead and told you she's into fashion, she's a slut, she probably likes to party, doesn't respect authority, etc. all with a single word. Some of them play it straight, like here, others can subvert our expectations, like Galko, while yet others can add in a small twist, like Bisque Doll.

But you, lacking cultural context, never really understood these stories, and apparently just assumed that the characters involved were actually supposed to be likeable, respectable members of the community when that's a subversion.

My guy, girl can tear her hymen when having fun with herself.

I know it's fun to imagine some grand alternative explanation for this. But you have to remember that this is a story. These people don't have lives outside the narrative. We're not going to dig into her life and find out she lost her hymen in a tragic elevator farting incident back when she was 9. She's a gyaru, a subculture that infamously promiscuous. This is also porn. The author would quite clearly make her bleed, or have her somehow hint/say that it's her first time at some point. I could almost get over her being easy, since if stories didn't feature easy women, we'd have barely any porn in the first place.

The story is that a slut is into him, and started doing this.

Having her be a virgin would be a subversion, and it would have come up MUCH earlier.

Btw, have another: Gyaru (Japanese: ギャル) pronounced [ɡʲa̠ꜜɾɯ̟ᵝ], is a Japanese fashion subculture.

With stereotypes. Keep up.

 

[danvolodar]

With stereotypes. Keep up.

Stereotypes about a group do not perfectly describe each and every member of said group. Get a clue.

 

[BuyVelomobiles]

Stereotypes about a group do not perfectly describe each and every member of said group. Get a clue.

They do in fiction. That's why they're used. Come on, man. You can do better.

 

[danvolodar]

They do in fiction. That's why they're used. Come on, man. You can do better.

Of course they don't. You can easily think of a dozen Americans in manga who are not fat or invading a third world country, or a dozen Japanese who aren't xenophobic, or. If there's anyone who needs to step up their game here, it's you: stupidity trolling gets boring fast.

 

[BuyVelomobiles]

Of course they don't.

Of course they do.

You can easily think of a dozen Americans in manga who are not fat or invading a third world country, or a dozen Japanese who aren't xenophobic, or.

They all ignore social conventions in Japan. Usually by being overly-friendly, and loud, and rude. Not to mention they pretty much all have blonde hair. And it's just assumed they don't speak good Japanese, and it's usually commented on when they do. That sort of thing was the running joke for series like Asobi Asobase and Ichigo Mashimaro. The only reason it works is because they subvert the stereotype. Hell, Ao Yori Aoshi plays with this by having the American girl play every part of the stereotype straight, except for the fact that she's got a thick rural dialect, and probably doesn't speak English.

Remember: The have their own stereotypes for you. And those stereotypes they have for you are different from the ones you have for you.

Look, I'm thinking you just turn off your brain and consume product. That's fine, but other people actually think about what's on the page a little bit more. Maybe leave this discussion to them.

 

[ZoronCraft]

Of course they do.


They all ignore social conventions in Japan. Usually by being overly-friendly, and loud, and rude. Not to mention they pretty much all have blonde hair. And it's just assumed they don't speak good Japanese, and it's usually commented on when they do. That sort of thing was the running joke for series like Asobi Asobase and Ichigo Mashimaro. The only reason it works is because they subvert the stereotype. Hell, Ao Yori Aoshi plays with this by having the American girl play every part of the stereotype straight, except for the fact that she's got a thick rural dialect, and probably doesn't speak English.

Remember: The have their own stereotypes for you. And those stereotypes they have for you are different from the ones you have for you.

Look, I'm thinking you just turn off your brain and consume product. That's fine, but other people actually think about what's on the page a little bit more. Maybe leave this discussion to them.

My guy, open the romance tag and find any manga about gyaru, 90% of the time she will be confirmed a virgin. This alone disproves all your pandering here.

Regarding the "American" stereotype - first of all, it's not about Americans but any foreigner. Blonde - because it's rare for a Japanese person to have hair a color different from black (from this actually comes the basic black-haired MC).

Usually by being overly-friendly, and loud, and rude.

It's false; there are many timid and closed-off heroines or narcissistic bitches who are foreigners or specificly american.

As someone said earlier, you're either incredibly dumb or just trolling.

PS: All that authors grab from stereotypes is almost always just superficial stuff like appearance or some parts of behavior, but it's almost impossible to actually find a story where an important heroine will be just a full example of a stereotype.
PS2: The stuff that you presented didn't prove anything; it just claims that someone adds promiscuity as part of gyaru stereotypes, which is actually common for different moral defenders who know nothing about the stuff they talk about in any country. (Just go outside and you will see what I'm talking about).

 

[ZoronCraft]

What happened to reading? Look, again: I get it. You're not plugged into the culture at all, so you think this is coming out of nowhere. But don't call me a moron because of your own ignorance, it makes you look bad. The entire point of the article is that Galko chan was "Defying stereotypes" in the first place. What did you think the stereotypes were?

Let me give you more reading, and directly quote the bit explaining the history of this (Since you're bad at reading):



Crucially, it doesn't matter if the stereotype is accurate. The fact that it's a stereotype means that it can be used as a shortcut for character exposition. The moment you see it in a story, the stereotype becomes 100% true in the context of the story, and from there the author can play with the tropes surrounding them as they see fit; the author has gone ahead and told you she's into fashion, she's a slut, she probably likes to party, doesn't respect authority, etc. all with a single word. Some of them play it straight, like here, others can subvert our expectations, like Galko, while yet others can add in a small twist, like Bisque Doll.

But you, lacking cultural context, never really understood these stories, and apparently just assumed that the characters involved were actually supposed to be likeable, respectable members of the community when that's a subversion.


Having her be a virgin would be a subversion, and it would have come up MUCH earlier.

With stereotypes. Keep up.

READ STUFF THAT YOU ATTACH
This describe history of gyaru and public perception from 1980 - 2003. At the end, they actually present how this stereotype is viewed nowadays.

gyaru style was about to experience an unexpected resurgence in the mid-2000s. Not only would the gyaru become the most important female fashion subculture in the 21st century, they would essentially take over pop culture.