Cohabitation with My Fiancée - Ch. 73 - Relationship Rookie (1)

[JavelinJoe]

@givemersspls
I agree what you were saying. Also he is 15 and seemingly having to deal with a lot of shit from others already. His dad seems cool but is more or less incompetent in terms of prioritizing (or even considering) his son's desires over his own hastily thought out ideas. Just letting his son learn it all by being forced to do so without much if any assistance from anyone. Then when he fucks up, simply because he didnt know, he is made out to be the asshole.

If anyone is a dick in the manga I would say his dad is more so than he ever was. Especially because he was right with his reasonings almost every time. Not to mention the shitty start the two of them had. She was a borderline gold digging neet at the start. Most would be less than kind if that was just added to their life.

 

[TwilightFaze]

@givemersspls: You asked me why he was a straight-up dick vs not really a dick, then you have me be specific to just Ma-Ri, and you didn't need specific examples, just general ones, and now you say you do?

Just for the record, you're not being consistent. But that's fine, I got no problem obliging (Keep in mind I can't direct to pages since this is long strip format):
Chapter 1: The kid is dismissive about his dad having diabetes and criticizes the fact he doesn't remarry, showing no concern for his father's welfare
Chapter 2: While (rightfully) upset about the arranged marriage, his yelling and physically aggressive behavior towards his dad is unacceptable.
(Didn't want to talk about the dad? Too bad, Being a dick doesn't limit itself to just one person. If you're a dick, multiple people are affected. BUT! Per your request, I'll do just Ma-Ri now)

<skip chapters to where she is fully exposed>

Chapter 8: Forcing her to sell her stuff (Controversial, I know, but because she had the father's permission, this isn't actually an issue. Instead of forcing her to sell it away, he could have just cut them off until she earned them back)
Chapter 10: Destroying her stuff for personal satisfaction (Again, controversial. Yes, Ma-Ri is reverting to old ways, but this is still too extreme no matter how you look at it, especially since he said he was planning to resell it. Completely unnecessary and cruel, not to mention an active waste of money.)
Chapter 12: Trying to hit Ma-Ri with a bucket in revenge (Yes, yes, it really was an accident on her end and he didn't believe her, but striking a woman? I don't care who you are or what your reasons are, that's just not cool. Serves him right falling off the stairs like that.)
Chapter 13: Blaming his injury on Ma-Ri due to his action and reaction (I know what you wrote, but re-read the chapter. Who climbed those stairs? What was his aim? Did he look where he was going? His injury was HIS fault, no matter how you slice it) and staying focused on it despite other people having a life (Seriously, who do you think pays for the house, kid?).
Chapter 14: Having the absolute stones to pretend he WAS being nice to her. (Should also point out he didn't try to understand her situation until the next chapter)
Chapter 15: Realizing his past actions from this past made him the bad guy (Aka, admitting himself he was being a straight-up dick).

I think that's enough evidence. I can go more, but this wall of text is starting to look a little too tall and it's pretty clear there's a pattern.

I need to once again stress that while his situation is pitiable and his frustration for all these issues is very understandable, his reaction and behavior to them is what makes him a dick. But (and I really feel you keep missing this point I keep saying) he's also a middle school brat. He's still got growing up to do. You ever met a teenager with his emotions in control? I haven't. But at the same time, his overall attitude towards others, not just Ma-Ri is what makes him a dick.

I'm not changing my mind on this and I'm not trying to change yours either. I gave my opinion and nothing else. That's why I said we should agree to disagree. I'm not going to press this any further, nor should you. This back-and-forth wall of texts between us is getting old and will just go on forever, here or DM. I'm ending it here.

 

[TwilightFaze]

@givemersspls: Yes, I misread. I WAS gonna correct myself before you posted that, but then you resorted to insults, which I never did with you. I won't respond to most of your counters because they are understandable. Most are.

But it's also clear you only read pieces that adhered to what you want. Talking with people like you is a waste of time, but (and I can't believe I have to say this again), I was never trying to change your mind. I've said multiple times that the kid is a dick, yes, but also that he's a KID! Please read everything I read in full, not just bits and pieces.

As male myself, no I'm not being sexist. If anything, you are. You try to justify his violent behavior by striking a woman (a mentally ill one, I might add). You think it's ok to hit a woman out of rage? Ok, do that in your home. Tell me how that works out for you. Beat your wife with a bucket. Show me the police report that says the cops let it slide because it was between two people. You call me sexist, but this is how society works: A MAN DOES NOT STRIKE A WOMAN. Don't like it? Too bad. This is what society expects from a man. Even if you still have a problem with that, it still doesn't excuse the fact of resorting to violence on another person. So no, this is wrong on many levels and it's pretty sick you try to dismiss that.

You also completely ignore the act of destruction of property for self-satisfaction (admitted by the MC himself.). You're telling me as long as it's in petty revenge it's ok to completely destroy someone else's property? Regardless of whether the MC agreed with it or not, he's not the head of the house. He's just a kid. She had the father's permission and approval, which means the kid had no right to destroy someone else's property. The fact you're ok with that is also pretty sick.

Yes, I agree some tough love is needed, but these 15 chapters alone show he was just being cruel (once again admitted by the MC himself). The fact you can ignore all that says more about you than it does about me. Ma-Ri may have social issues, but you sympathizing with these actions says you got some mental issues of your own and I'm genuinely scared to talk to you anymore. After all, if you're ok with this level of violence and destruction, who knows what you're capable of when you get mad?

Don't bother responding as you've been blocked. I refuse to associate with a sociopath.

 

[lainfec]

He's growing up....😭