Conqueror of Dying Kingdom - Ch. 3.1

[MangaDex]

 

[DaFreak]

Finally motivated to upload the chapter you translated back in december, now that some else is motivated to do what you abandoned? I'd be quite happy if you left this to Wukong Scans since you clearly uploaded just now in the hopes that you get to maintain monopoly on this manga, so you can keep moving readers to your own website.

 

[MeePotato]

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[sevenpointsix]

Bit late don't you think.

 

[Sir_Him]

No, thanks. I'm going to read Wukong Scan's version.

 

[T10_]

Finally motivated to upload the chapter you translated back in december, now that some else is motivated to do what you abandoned? I'd be quite happy if you left this to Wukong Scans since you clearly uploaded just now in the hopes that you get to maintain monopoly on this manga, so you can keep moving readers to your own website.

I think you're reading too much into this
First of all, I'm not part of their staff and I only upload their stuff

• The chapter gap I have to keep doesn't apply if another group uploaded a chapter and has nothing to do with "maintain[ing] monopoly on this manga" (lmao how did you even get to that conclusion)
• I apparently overlooked this chapter a month ago when I went back to check which manga are missing chapters
• I randomly chose today to upload, which is a complete coincidence that I noticed this manga in my feed and went back to check why ch. 3.1 isn't already uploaded

there is no reason why this chapter shouldn't be uploaded, just because another group picked the manga up
not to speak of this being only the first part

 

[hermitowl]

I think you're reading too much into this
First of all, I'm not part of their staff and I only upload their stuff

• The chapter gap I have to keep doesn't apply if another group uploaded a chapter
• I apparently overlooked this chapter a month ago when I went back to check which manga are missing chapters
• I randomly chose today to upload, which is a complete coincidence that I noticed this manga in my feed and went back to check why ch. 3.1 isn't already uploaded

not to speak of this being only the first part

I found a site with raws. Chapter 3 onwards (to 15) aren't released in piecemeal as you have uploaded it, currently. I would recommend to Animated Glitch Scans to cut back the number of manga they translate to those they can translate in whole, not in chunks of chapters. There is no shame, only disappointed in dropping series due to being overwhelmed. I understand and sympathise with the group in trying to work on so much, maybe Wukong Scans has a lighter workload at the moment and can be collaborated with for this manga to catch up with the current set of raws.

 

[hermitowl]

One bugbear I have with Animated Glitch Scans is releasing chapters in chunks and not full chapters, then pay gating the chunks on their website.

If you wish to earn money on the manga or manwha you translate, ask the Mangaka or publisher for permission first, then release the chapters whole, for a price. I.e. go official.

 

[T10_]

I found a site with raws. Chapter 3 onwards (to 15) aren't released in piecemeal as you have uploaded it

it's possible that they get their chapters from a different source than the raws piracy site you checked, which is quite normal with e.g. magazine raws vs volume raws

One bugbear I have with Animated Glitch Scans is releasing chapters in chunks and not full chapters, then pay gating the chunks on their website.

I can see why you'd think that, but as I said in my first post, I have to keep a chapter gap with their site and we simply count the different parts as unique chapters, which sometimes results with only one part being on MangaDex

 

[hermitowl]

it's possible that they get their chapters from a different source than the raws piracy site you checked, which is quite normal with e.g. magazine raws vs volume raws

I can see why you'd think that, but as I said in my first post, I have to keep a chapter gap with their site and we simply count the different parts as unique chapters, which sometimes results with only one part being on MangaDex

Tl;Dr : Tristan_, I have no quarrel with you. I'm ranting at Animated Glitch.


Oh I don't blame you, ma dude, you're the messenger in this situation. You said yourself, that you're not part of Animated Glitch Scans, just an uploader. My "ick" is with the group's monetisation practice itself. Don't take the anger and vitriol to heart. It's coming from a place of irritation at a group whose release model is anti fandom and anti consumer.

Also, I assume your immediate branding of a site I didn't mention as a piracy site is an unconscious bias. It could have been the Japanese official release website that lists the number of chapters available. In fact, the official raw site hosts 21 chapters. I recommend noting that bias in the future (a bit of entrapment on the part of my phrasing, I apologise).

The entire process of scanlation is a fan based legal grey area. Donation and payment on commission are also more of a moral grey area. What I, personally, don't stand for is turning this fan based hobby into micro transactions. I would much rather pay for the full product (and I do, when I at a luxury to do so). Reading on MangaDex just harkens me back to the 2000s and the aggregators and manga sites of yesteryear like MangaFox, with people releasing their translations as soon as their able to, for the love of the manga.

I better stop posting tonight before I go into more of a sad diatribe on the woes of modern manga scanlations. Wrong place; wrong time.

 

[Equilibrium]

 

[Kelkelkol]

Don't worry guys. This one has been uploaded to their main site in December and hasn't been updated ever since.

 

[DaFreak]

I think you're reading too much into this
First of all, I'm not part of their staff and I only upload their stuff

I may be reading to much into it indeed, especially since I learned just a bit ago that you uploaded various other things at this same time, but you may have gotten clearance to upload this chapter after 8 months due to the upload by Wukong Scans. You not being staff is odd, only admins or members of the group can upload using that groups name, so it'd be nice if you elaborated what you mean, though do know that I don't mean to target you, my grievance is with Glitched Scans.

• The chapter gap I have to keep doesn't apply if another group uploaded a chapter and has nothing to do with "maintain[ing] monopoly on this manga" (lmao how did you even get to that conclusion)

The community overall believes that it's not great if many scanslators work on the same manga, due to there being many good manga that still need translations, for example TOOR Scans is the only one doing 'Ascendance of a Bookworm' and even if they are late on the uploads, other scanslators are not to cover that manga, as these other scanlators are needed elsewhere. Hence, if you upload semi-regularly, even if you are behind the raws by 12 chapters, no scanlator will cover your manga and you can safely advertise your website and donation box there without challenge.

It is unfortunately very common for some Scanlators to just do a few chapters and then stop uploading, only returning to the manga or webtoon if the work is being "sniped" so to keep the status of the work as not having been abandoned and therefore up for the taking by other scanlators, stretching the "semi-regularly" part of my earlier paragraph. I am aware that Glitched Scans does complete some of the works they start to scanlate, so I will not argue that they egregiously engage in that practice, but it is hard to not draw ones conclusion on just how many works this group starts and doesn't finish.

• I apparently overlooked this chapter a month ago when I went back to check which manga are missing chapters
• I randomly chose today to upload, which is a complete coincidence that I noticed this manga in my feed and went back to check why ch. 3.1 isn't already uploaded

it's been 8 months, one does not accidentally fail to do uplaods of something for that long, I am aware that Glitched Scans needs to pay its bills and earn something from this in order to remain motivated to do the work, so I can reason delayed uplaods to mangadex in comparison to their site, but this is too far.

there is no reason why this chapter shouldn't be uploaded, just because another group picked the manga up

rather then not uploaded, it should have cleared that Glitched scans is official in abandoning the series due to being far behind on the raws and other scanslators wishing to take the mantle. And if it is so that Glitched Scans wishes to further pursue scanslating this work, then it should investigate if and why it would want to inspite how having presented such postponed uploads.

TL;DR: Scanslators don't generally work on something that is already being worked on, by showing that Glitched Scans has interested on Scanslating this manga by uploading a chapter, it is discouraging the other Scanslators to cover this manga, with the purpose of securing advertising space for their website and donation box. It may, however, have been entirely accidental, it may not have been, Glitched Scans nonetheless failed to address this potential change in scanlator to this work and weather or not they are still pursuing scanlating it as the culture on mangadex does not take kindly to multiple scanlators doing redundant work.

 

[MrGrinns]

Damn this comment drama is investing me more than the manga itself at this point. It had a good premise but if we're gonna get updates a year apart then i dont feel the need to follow it.

 

[koga88]

It's a real bad look when you try to squirt out an update after eight months of silence because someone else decided to pick up the ball you dropped but it is pretty damn sad when you can't even squirt out a full chapter to match.

 

[T10_]

it's been 8 months, one does not accidentally fail to do uplaods of something for that long

I blame their wordpress site theme
I started helping them in april, so it's very much possible that I overlooked a chapter release from months before

rather then not uploaded

there is an actual part of the userbase that uses MangaDex as a scanlation archive, which I'd say I'm part of
every chapter, regardless of when released, should be uploaded here. One of MangaDex's missions is steal as many views as possible from other aggregators or ad-plagued sites

 

[AthK]

Guys, it’s very common for power uploaders to scrape and upload chapters from scanlator sites to mangadex (only after taking permission from scanlator group). And groups always demand some restrictions such as you can’t upload latest 1 or 2 chapters and all. And it is very easy to miss a chapter bcz those websites usually never have any maintained proper api to automate stuff.

PS: I should add that these scanlator groups usually never check any comments here. So, if you wanna rant then go and rant in their discord server rather than here.

 

[feha]

Guys, it’s very common for power uploaders to scrape and upload chapters from scanlator sites to mangadex (only after taking permission from scanlator group). And groups always demand some restrictions such as you can’t upload latest 1 or 2 chapters and all. And it is very easy to miss a chapter bcz those websites usually never have any maintained proper api to automate stuff.

PS: I should add that these scanlator groups usually never check any comments here. So, if you wanna rant then go and rant in their discord server rather than here.

Good to know But if that restriction is common then it's really an obvious ticking time-bomb
Specifically, it will be impossible to actually ever get the last 1-2 chapters of a series pushed to mangadex that way. Easiest fix is an additional clause "or x weeks after release", so let's hold our thumbs that such an addition is similarly common

Or put in other, less implicit, words: this comment is an open letter to power uploaders that they should probably ask their scanlators for such an additional clause, to ensure series are not left in limbo forever when they are a single chapter from completion. And to check that their automated tools includes such a check (or look at the series they uploads, for ones that has been out-of-sync for ages despite being completely translated).
Or don't, not like I can or want to force you to, and I already appreciate all that you are doing Merely felt like a glaring blindspot in what was described as common method of operations that needed pointing out :d

 

[AthK]

to ensure series are not left in limbo forever when they are a single chapter from completion

don’t worry, most groups don’t care about what happens to the series after it’s finished or after they drop it. Bcz it’s no longer a money making machine for them.

 

[Rikurichi]

there is no reason why this chapter shouldn't be uploaded, just because another group picked the manga up
not to speak of this being only the first part

exactly because it's only half chapter it the reason sir.

you're just making things confusing while the other translation is already satisfactory.