Dachou Juujin no Hachamecha Musou - Aho Kawaii Saikyou Shuzoku no Leader ni Narimashita - Ch. 12

[NinjaGoemon]

No, nobody can be expected to be able to flawlessly handle ~300 three-year olds. No matter their gender or sex.

Readers and markets can be kinda dumb though

 

[hbmonk]

really ? its not sexist it really HARD write female character come on man its everything we say in internet is wrong? Many author like kishimoto and haruki got hate because they create female flat or one-dimensional female characters. i see woman as special and unique character only woman themselves can understand to create. . . i see woman as special but you see i am sexist . . . really. that why mangaka or novelist hire female assistant to help them creating good female character. nope its reality Editor in japan always strict about female protagonist in novel and manga. and for man character you can always one dimensional motivation for story (well as people say Men general motive always simple)

Treating women like they are a separate species is basically the definition of sexism, my friend.

 

[polemarch]

Reisu strikes me as a with fulfillment character for the author, as in, “man, I wish that was me” kind of vibes.

Understandable. Who hasn’t dreamed of one day becoming an ostrich?

 

[albirew]

Popopuuu~ sing along, killing chicken dears ♪
Popopuuu~ soap wash away blood and fears ♫
kah kah kah, i was only the weakest of the 4 heavenly kings!

 

[ptyre]

Treating women like they are a separate species is basically the definition of sexism, my friend.

HUH ? What absurd Jump in logic . . . is that ? i dont understand. . . HINT for male woman hard to read even many couple and single complain they cant understand their girlfriends and wife . even Ton of memes complain about this fact. please explain use logic what i say is from male Author that dont understand woman . simple logic really

this real book btw you can buy on amazon . . .

 

[ptyre]

Treating women like they are a separate species is basically the definition of sexism, my friend.

btw i kinda curious how you can have that conclusion , the flow chart for me . . . is simple

Male author -> has lived as a male -> understands male thought patterns from personal experience.

Male author -> has not personally lived as a female -> female thought patterns require observation, research, imagination, or consultation.

So the fictional character-writing difficulty can be represented as:

Difficulty(character) ∝ Distance(character, Author's experience)

SOOOOOOOOO THE CONCLUSION IS
Male character → relatively low difficulty
Female character → potentially higher difficulty

Simple Logic right ?

 

[AlvoradaGD]

Sometimes I wonder if there was even a point making the protagonist a reincarnated character, much less a genderbent one.

As others have mentioned, it's (up to this point) just a kind of fallback for any criticism about the way the protagonist behaves. But at least for reincarnation, it served the purpose of "forcing her to evolve" at the start, because it was the "sizable memories and knowledge" that made its brain explode and regenerate, forcing the body to develop to suit it. If she was born there, the author would have to find another explanation such as "the leader of the flock gets a special diet to grow into a queen" (like a bee) or something. Reincarnated background is either something absurd like "I was a gun enthusiast in my previous life, therefore I can now COMPLETELY recreate guns and be the sole force using in this world - and also chess and other games because why not" or "wow, modern knowledge is doing jackshit, because I can't use electricity if there is none and I won't ever remake my cellphone, the best I can do is not drink water without boiling and think somewhat better than the footsoldier without any education".

There is hardly any in between.

 

[AlvoradaGD]

That's part of the reason they do it, and it's not just in Isekai. A generic, or rather a stereotype/archetype being used as the MC lets the author focus more on other aspects of the story without needing to really care much about fleshing out the MC in their own right. Often the MC is not seen as the important aspect, they're merely the convenient method of delivering the story and a useful framing device.

That too. Outside story, a generic MC let's more people put themselves in the shoes of the character and see themselves in them. Inside story, fleshing out the past and characteristics of the MC is done mostly when that by itself is the story being told, like a slice of life, drama, psychological horror or mistery genre.

 

[Cakes88]

I'm just glad none of the little ones were hurt/killed. I don't think i could handle that tbh (like the first chapter)..

 

[Why_Not_Add_More_Gun]

No, nobody can be expected to be able to flawlessly handle ~300 three-year olds. No matter their gender or sex.

I’m the eldest child in my family and I cannot emphasize this enough, taking care of one child is hard even when the work is divided between 3 people and I’ve had to deal with 2.

300????

I would rather die. Hang in there sister.

 

[TiJoTo]

Simple solution is to have them hunt in the Plateau.
It provides food, keeps them in top shape, burns off excess energy, and what they don't eat can be sold.

 

[PurpleSPR]

Bro what?? That's such a stupid sexist comment???
There's literally no difference in writing female protagonists? Just make them female? Like she is completely fine as she is and she didn't need to be male before? Girls can't be straight forward? Have you ever talked to a girl?
If you can't write a female protagonist then you're just a shitty writer? It's just a skill issue.
WTF is this gross sexist comment?!?! Disgusting wtf? Do you just hate women?

I think what they were trying to say is that if you are a male author and dont have many close female friends, it can be intimidating to make your main character female becuse the main character is often supposed to be the deepest or at the very least have the most screen time. Some authors may think something like if the mc is female, then the experience of being female is likley to be a part of their story and the author may not want to mess that up, so they dodge it entirely by making them gender bent male. That way, you know that your experience with gender. The way modern society treats you is very influential on what assumptions you make, and making that align with your own lived experience makes that easy.
Am I saying this is a good thing? No. The author could have made the mc a woman the whole time and nothing so far would have changed. I just think that understanding where the author may be coming from is important and interesting. Also, I dont think the original comment here was trying to be sexest. No offense, I get why you could assume that lol. Animanga spaces are pretty prone to sexism in my experience, so its good to call it out imo.

 

[PurpleSPR]

I love this manga so far keep it up!!! Panic at the daycare lmfao

 

[PanzerkampfvagenVIIIMaus]

I HAVE BECOME COMPLETELY ADDICTED TO THIS MANGA I NEED MORE

 

[rkkn]

the dere+elf combo continues to be adorable

but reisu should really just wear clothing if she wants to. the little ones not wearing any is no reason for her not to

 

[squirrellysama]

the dere+elf combo continues to be adorable

but reisu should really just wear clothing if she wants to. the little ones not wearing any is no reason for her not to

I think this was covered in the LN by this point, it's both really difficult for her to dress herself without hands, and the feathers that already cover her bits makes most clothing uncomfortable.

 

[Lilabun]

I'm reminded of that movie quote with Jack Nicholson. "How do you write women so well? Easy, write a man and remove all sense and reason."

But anyway the reason is probably 2 fold. The Isekai aspect makes it much easier to create someone with familiar knowledge and cultural base to interact with the foreign fantasy world the author creates as well as acts as an excuse to justify certain decisions or innovations that wouldn't make sense in a vacuum in universe. Without the Isekai aspect it's harder to justify why the MC decides to trust the humans, how they know and expect the things they do that would allow them to integrate into society outside the plateu, and a reason to really act the way she did in looking out for the chicks since she'd only really naturally care about survival rather than improved living conditions and socialization. For the Genderbend, it offers a mild comedy angle that can get played pretty often, gives a small justification for yuri antics, makes writing the character simpler as pointed out above where they can be much more straightforward without it seeming particularly odd or becoming a major personality trait, and it creates a bit more friction in how the character interacts with the world and is perceived due to the contrast between a male personality and an obviously female body.

I also remember a quote about how to write women "write a man, and then just make it a woman" someone said in response to that quote to say that women don't have to be the stereotypical idea of "women" since they're also people with variety.

 

[Lilabun]

I think what they were trying to say is that if you are a male author and dont have many close female friends, it can be intimidating to make your main character female becuse the main character is often supposed to be the deepest or at the very least have the most screen time. Some authors may think something like if the mc is female, then the experience of being female is likley to be a part of their story and the author may not want to mess that up, so they dodge it entirely by making them gender bent male. That way, you know that your experience with gender. The way modern society treats you is very influential on what assumptions you make, and making that align with your own lived experience makes that easy.
Am I saying this is a good thing? No. The author could have made the mc a woman the whole time and nothing so far would have changed. I just think that understanding where the author may be coming from is important and interesting. Also, I dont think the original comment here was trying to be sexest. No offense, I get why you could assume that lol. Animanga spaces are pretty prone to sexism in my experience, so its good to call it out imo.

Thanks for your comment, I understand what you're saying and I completely agree. I got what they were trying to say, I just think it's dumb that people think that way because that. Like? Why is making a deep female character intimidating? Just write like you usually do and just flip the gender but put in a few splashes of scenarios where they're treated like a woman. Even in the character is genderbent, the character in the end is still a woman and would be treated like one by surrounding characters so that's not different except she would probably feel uncomfortable which again isn't just a reaction only a man would have to those situations. Dodging it isn't necessary. I feel like that thought that it's so alien to them the thought that women are so difficult and complicated to write you just dodge it completely is weird. And if they were so scared about writing a woman they shouldn't have done so in the first place. This character seems perfectly fine even if they weren't gender bent. Also I wasn't calling the author sexist but the person I responded to. Because that comment was super sexist .

 

[Lilabun]

btw i kinda curious how you can have that conclusion , the flow chart for me . . . is simple

Male author -> has lived as a male -> understands male thought patterns from personal experience.

Male author -> has not personally lived as a female -> female thought patterns require observation, research, imagination, or consultation.

So the fictional character-writing difficulty can be represented as:

Difficulty(character) ∝ Distance(character, Author's experience)

SOOOOOOOOO THE CONCLUSION IS
Male character → relatively low difficulty
Female character → potentially higher difficulty

Simple Logic right ?

No? Male authors have written female characters a bunch of times with no problem. The thought that it's so difficult to write the opposite sex just because you are not a woman is wild. Like they said, thinking that women are so difficult to write is the point. Look at this character, you think this was hard to write? This is a completely fine female character that didn't need to be male first to be a good female character. The author could have written her as is normally without that.

 

[AvidMangaReader81]

Haven't kept up with this, but hype that there's a new chapter out now (even if I'm almost a week late).