Dainana Maouji Jilbagias no Maou Keikokuki - Ch. 16.2

[GhostX64]

At least the Dark Elf was honest yeah we enjoyed torturing Liliana. Yeah those 7 years aside from getting their torture boner off, really shows that while they do care about their fellows, they are like the demons they are both twisted. They are people but uses what we consider the worst parts of humanity and uses it as a matter of course.

They are what a lot of Frieren demon posters think Frieren Demons are like. Demon posters think Frieren Demons are not the literal concept of demonic being that will kill a person cause they felt like it. The demons and dark elves of this series have ability to have empiathy, the first Demon King even had friends with elves and humans, then he mercilessly slaughtered them. Though with how extreme things here compared to Frieren there will probably be next to no demon posters.

What is Frieren Demon Posters?

And no Frieren demons aren't the literal concept of Christianic demonic beings nor will they kill anything they feel like it.

The best way to describe them is Intellectual Zombies. They have base desires. But they have no preventive measures/emotion to combat base desires. That doesn't mean they don't have conscience as proved by gold demon. You can understand it more in a crab or reptile sense, they are the literal concept of cold-blooded. As they are not born babies, they never had issue of cannibalism, so they never had anything to suppress desires.

So in your terms, the Frieren Demons are the literal concept of cold-blooded beings and they will kill a person if they have a desire and the person is somehow being a obstacle to it. i. e I want to eat you cause I'm hungry and you are resisting, so I have to kill you.

 

[Sutatekken9169]

1. Show the rule
2. If you could idfk read you and understand english beyond whatever elementary grade reading level you read at you'd understand that that also means that they can just drop the chunks all at once and not metered out over a couple days. i
3. it's sad that neither of yall can understand the analogy nor be able to apply common sense on it @Kampfarsch @shadowgrail you're detracting from the consumer experience by doing things peacemeal

https://imgur.com/a/IdwWjAB

 

[AgniZet]

What is Frieren Demon Posters?

And no Frieren demons aren't the literal concept of Christianic demonic beings nor will they kill anything they feel like it.

The best way to describe them is Intellectual Zombies. They have base desires. But they have no preventive measures/emotion to combat base desires. That doesn't mean they don't have conscience as proved by gold demon. You can understand it more in a crab or reptile sense, they are the literal concept of cold-blooded. As they are not born babies, they never had issue of cannibalism, so they never had anything to suppress desires.

So in your terms, the Frieren Demons are the literal concept of cold-blooded beings and they will kill a person if they have a desire and the person is somehow being a obstacle to it. i. e I want to eat you cause I'm hungry and you are resisting, so I have to kill you.

Frieren Demon Posters are the type to humanize the very blunt and in our face literally named demons that will kill a person because they can. Aka the type of people who would compared Orcs which represents human ugliness and brutality as a analogy to black people, which is like the definition of racism.

There was a demon girl who killed a some villagers kid, was taken in by the village chief's family since to them said demon is a child, and they try to raise her as a human, she killed said family and took the daughter to give the villagers whose kid she killed, then Himmel gave the green light to kill her. While sure she had a reason which was to appease the first family who were giving her death glares, its not like she had a reason to kill the first child.

Cannibalism just means you eat your own kind. Frieren Demons do not need to eat humans, they just choose too.

 

[TheVanguardKing]

Spoiler

Gone. She is acting badly because just like if it was hypnosis, she can only act like how she would think a dog would act, but she does believe she is one, her original ego is missing.

Spoiler

So, on vacation gone? Or shit's missing, divorce papers on the kitchen table gone.

 

[tttrrreeeyyy]

yall need to step it up 2 months for this is insane, this is probably better than anything else yall are working on, fuckin hand it over to someone better if you wont, coz if I gotta wait another 2 months imma just drop this shit

 

[The_H_Guy]

I actually thought that he would have used the dark elf wish for an healer to bring them to his side.
But this was very well played.

 

[GhostX64]

Frieren Demon Posters are the type to humanize the very blunt and in our face literally named demons that will kill a person because they can. Aka the type of people who would compared Orcs which represents human ugliness and brutality as a analogy to black people, which is like the definition of racism.

There was a demon girl who killed a some villagers kid, was taken in by the village chief's family since to them said demon is a child, and they try to raise her as a human, she killed said family and took the daughter to give the villagers whose kid she killed, then Himmel gave the green light to kill her. While sure she had a reason which was to appease the first family who were giving her death glares, its not like she had a reason to kill the first child.

Cannibalism just means you eat your own kind. Frieren Demons do not need to eat humans, they just choose too.

You don't need to eat beef, chicken or pork, you choose to.

Cannibalism is the characteristic of crabs and reptiles. It's my bad to assume you already knew these trivia. Basically a lot of mamma's suppressive emotion comes from resisting cannibalism. Frieren demons by their system didn't ever need to cannibalise which happens due to babies eating each other for nutrition as their baby kins are the weakest prey, for some even their dying mother. You cannot have the solution(suppressive emotions) to a problem(Cannibalism) you never had.

Again coming back to the analogy, you may choose bread over beef if you were told you have to kill the cow with your own hands. That second thought of kindness is a suppressive feeling that demons don't posses.


You talked about humanizing a demon, but aren't you doing the same? You are the other side of the coin. You are expecting the demons to have the basic emotions that humans possess. You never realized why Himmel gave the green light did you?

Frieren wants to kill demons because by nature they are evil. But Himmel realized that they did not choose to be girl. That village demon tried to do a genuine good deed. It just turned into a evil deed because she did not have the fundamental emotions to understand what she did wrong. As Himmel realized it was a lost case he gave the green light.

Both Christian and media demons are evil by choice or because they enjoy it. Even some good written demons become evil as fate forces them to be. Frieren demons aren't evil by choice, they are sometimes evil as they don't even understand what evil is. The exception are the elder demons who have become evil by nature due to absorbing the base desires of humans but without their suppressive counterparts by learning and inter mingling with humans. It is hinted that demons couldn't be evil without the existence of humans in that fashion, demons and human can never coexist. Gold demon is the living proof. It took their best to prove what is their worst.

 

[Kavier]

yall need to step it up 2 months for this is insane, this is probably better than anything else yall are working on, fuckin hand it over to someone better if you wont, coz if I gotta wait another 2 months imma just drop this shit

I genuinely feel embarrassed reading this cause you're putting on airs without even knowing what's going on.

 

[AgniZet]

You don't need to eat beef, chicken or pork, you choose to.

Cannibalism is the characteristic of crabs and reptiles. It's my bad to assume you already knew these trivia. Basically a lot of mamma's suppressive emotion comes from resisting cannibalism. Frieren demons by their system didn't ever need to cannibalise which happens due to babies eating each other for nutrition as their baby kins are the weakest prey, for some even their dying mother. You cannot have the solution(suppressive emotions) to a problem(Cannibalism) you never had.

Again coming back to the analogy, you may choose bread over beef if you were told you have to kill the cow with your own hands. That second thought of kindness is a suppressive feeling that demons don't posses.


You talked about humanizing a demon, but aren't you doing the same? You are the other side of the coin. You are expecting the demons to have the basic emotions that humans possess. You never realized why Himmel gave the green light did you?

Frieren wants to kill demons because by nature they are evil. But Himmel realized that they did not choose to be girl. That village demon tried to do a genuine good deed. It just turned into a evil deed because she did not have the fundamental emotions to understand what she did wrong. As Himmel realized it was a lost case he gave the green light.

Both Christian and media demons are evil by choice or because they enjoy it. Even some good written demons become evil as fate forces them to be. Frieren demons aren't evil by choice, they are sometimes evil as they don't even understand what evil is. The exception are the elder demons who have become evil by nature due to absorbing the base desires of humans but without their suppressive counterparts by learning and inter mingling with humans. It is hinted that demons couldn't be evil without the existence of humans in that fashion, demons and human can never coexist. Gold demon is the living proof. It took their best to prove what is their worst.

And demons exist across various cultures trying to make it purely a Christian and media thing ignores the world and various cultures. And yes across various cultures demons are often depicted as enjoying hurting people, they were given different names but in the end they are the same thing demons, whether they are called demons, yashas, oni, and asuras etc.

Cannibalism is defined in various dictionaries as an animal or being eating its own kind. And as many as 1500 species commit it. Lions commit cannibalism, so do chimpanzees, toads, hippos, etc some of it due to straining enviroment, eliminating rival males bloodines or passing on genes. So trying to make cannibalism a cold blooded animal thimg is wrong.
National Geographic talks about Animal Cannibalism

Evil is still evil, sure demons of Frieren do not possess malice, but there are still things and acts called evil.

 

[DLRevan]

1. Show the rule
2. If you could idfk read you and understand english beyond whatever elementary grade reading level you read at you'd understand that that also means that they can just drop the chunks all at once and not metered out over a couple days. i
3. it's sad that neither of yall can understand the analogy nor be able to apply common sense on it @Kampfarsch @shadowgrail you're detracting from the consumer experience by doing things peacemeal

1. Someone else has already done so for you, so I'll just point out how much of a bum you are if you can't find it for yourself. It's nicely categorized, its in plain language. And the important part is literally the first rule under chapter submission.

2.

literally drop it all together as one fucking chapter instead of this half chapter shit especially when you're just going to release it 16hrs later

That is exactly what you said. "One fucking chapter", you said. Don't backpedal when your words are right there for everyone to read. Yes, ultimately this is about wanting to get it all at once. Regardless, not all of us are so jumped up and entitled that we rag on a group for releasing what they can first, for chapters that are already separate anyway at the source.

3. We understand the analogy just fine. Even if we didn't, you're helpfully elucidating exactly what you meant. You think you're a consumer, with inherent rights associated. We point out that you are not. You haven't paid anything. Nobody is obliged to give you any kind of 'experience'. Even if you donated to the group, you're not entitled anything. Simple enough for you?

While we are at it, elementary grade schoolers learn how to spell 'piecemeal', the proper use of the word 'neither', and the need for punctuation.

You will, of course, either ignore this or respond with something suitably inane. But I think we can all still enjoy a roasting of our little emperor here.

 

[DLRevan]

Spoiler

So, on vacation gone? Or shit's missing, divorce papers on the kitchen table gone.

Spoiler

Somewhere in between. Well, it's not permanent, I guess that's the answer you're looking for.

On another note, I'm pretty sure this went a little bit different in the original. Jibalgias didn't roast Shidar quite so badly and I think the order of the topics of their discussion has changed around a bit. I won't spoil how exactly it was because the scene's not over (I think?), but I like this version more. That being said, if he just walks out right now, that's very different.

 

[GhostX64]

And demons exist across various cultures trying to make it purely a Christian and media thing ignores the world and various cultures. And yes across various cultures demons are often depicted as enjoying hurting people, they were given different names but in the end they are the same thing demons, whether they are called demons, yashas, oni, and asuras etc.

Cannibalism is defined in various dictionaries as an animal or being eating its own kind. And as many as 1500 species commit it. Lions commit cannibalism, so do chimpanzees, toads, hippos, etc some of it due to straining enviroment, elimating rival males bloodines or passing on genes. So trying to make cannibalism a cold blooded is wrong.
National Geographic talks about Animal Cannibalism

Evil is still evil, sure demons of Frieren do not possess malice, but there are still things and acts called evil.

I don't know why you made the 1st paragraph, except for looking smart. It supports my statement but you are trying to present it as argument. Or your braindead that doesn't have the understanding that people Cristian is the cultural point representative as the popular example and media covers the rest. People don't talk with sources.

Cannibalism trivia wasn't needed. It was a established relation made for you because you didn't understand the difference between cold Blooded and demonic. Before citing a source, ask yourself if I'm gonna be made even more fun of because of the source I posted. Check the more than 1500 species you stated are cannibals, you'll be surprised how many are not warm Blooded. Not to mention the term"cold-blooded" proves my points by itself.

The last paragraph makes no sense, are you agreeing with me? Then that's good. Frieren demon posses no malice, contradicts the very statement of "They are the literal concept of demonic beings, and they will kill if they feel like it."

Also "Evil are still evil" Ya that's the whole point of the show. Did we watch the same series? Frieren doesn't justify killing, she says that your hesition will be abused by demons that's why she is merciless. But Frieren demins aren't one dimensional evil demons. There isn't a moral justification to kill them aside from self-defence. They are living beings like fairies, spirits and genies in high fantasies.

Also I won't bother replying anymore to this chain of comment as I feel like I have come across my point and proved my point. You are now arguing for the sake of arguing because your ego.

Have a good day.

 

[G33kG0dT4und3r]

That’s one hell of an explanation, gg

Mc destroys dark elf with facts and logic.

 

[Devvyy]

weaaaahhh! hic* weaaaaahhh!

It's a harsh way to put it but he is right, there's no reason not to release the whole thing at once.

 

[Kampfarsch]

1. Show the rule
2. If you could idfk read you and understand english beyond whatever elementary grade reading level you read at you'd understand that that also means that they can just drop the chunks all at once and not metered out over a couple days. i
3. it's sad that neither of yall can understand the analogy nor be able to apply common sense on it @Kampfarsch @shadowgrail you're detracting from the consumer experience by doing things peacemeal

Right, the user experience you have not paid or contributed shit to.
Actual genuine choosing beggar over here.
If you had the chromosomes to just wait a day before reading this "issue" wouldnt even exist.
You want things asap, you get them asap, so dont fucking cry about parts.

 

[AgniZet]

I don't know why you made the 1st paragraph, except for looking smart. It supports my statement but you are trying to present it as argument. Or your braindead that doesn't have the understanding that people Cristian is the cultural point representative as the popular example and media covers the rest. People don't talk with sources.

Cannibalism trivia wasn't needed. It was a established relation made for you because you didn't understand the difference between cold Blooded and demonic. Before citing a source, ask yourself if I'm gonna be made even more fun of because of the source I posted. Check the more than 1500 species you stated are cannibals, you'll be surprised how many are not warm Blooded. Not to mention the term"cold-blooded" proves my points by itself.

The last paragraph makes no sense, are you agreeing with me? Then that's good. Frieren demon posses no malice, contradicts the very statement of "They are the literal concept of demonic beings, and they will kill if they feel like it."

Also "Evil are still evil" Ya that's the whole point of the show. Did we watch the same series? Frieren doesn't justify killing, she says that your hesition will be abused by demons that's why she is merciless. But Frieren demins aren't one dimensional evil demons. There isn't a moral justification to kill them aside from self-defence. They are living beings like fairies, spirits and genies in high fantasies.

Also I won't bother replying anymore to this chain of comment as I feel like I have come across my point and proved my point. You are now arguing for the sake of arguing because your ego.

Have a good day.

You responded to my post first thus you wanted to show off your ego, and yes the cannibalism trivia correction was needed because you try to insult me with it. You were the one who started with the cannibalism and cold blood connection which is wrong and inaccurate.

The first paragraph was made because you try to emphasize Christian demons as if they are only religion/culture with demons which is wrong. You could have just said demons. Demons is derived from the Greek word Daemon which is a generic word meaning spirit originally. Daemons are divided into good and evil spirits until Christiainity and language evolution made demonic purely a bad thing.

My original post was about Frieren demons are bad, and people who defend them are dumb. All you did is agree with me that Frieren demons are in fact evil despite not possessing malice and spout inaccurate cannibalism facts, and trying to make demons a Chrisitian thing.

Edit: If you don't respond back it proves you can reel in your own ego. If you do respond it shows you in fact can't.

 

[Amplify]

yall need to step it up 2 months for this is insane, this is probably better than anything else yall are working on, fuckin hand it over to someone better if you wont, coz if I gotta wait another 2 months imma just drop this shit

Drop it, leave, never return.
You act like your presence is in some way needed, wanted, or otherwise desirable.

 

[Amplify]

It's a harsh way to put it but he is right, there's no reason not to release the whole thing at once.

Why should they have to do so, simply to satisfy him or you, exactly? They released the parts as they were finished for all to read and enjoy for free and I severely doubt he gave their website so much as a single view in return.

 

[Devvyy]

Why should they have to do so, simply to satisfy him or you, exactly? They released the parts as they were finished for all to read and enjoy for free and I severely doubt he gave their website so much as a single view in return.

Would you say the same if it was 4 pages at a time? One page, as they get done, with like 30 uploads for each chapter? If not, then where's the limit for it and why? Typically a full chapter is released as a full chapter, and decimal chapters (ie 2.1, 2.2, etc) are for side, bonus, or omake content. That's the convention almost every group uses, from fansites like mangadex all the way to official releases at yenpress. You are allowed to voice your opinion and give criticism on things, even free things, if it's done to improve the general quality of the work and for the right reasons.

I'm not being critical of the upload group and I'm not making any demands, I'm just saying it's a better idea to release it as one chapter. You don't have to glaze everything like a begger.

 

[Grikath]

https://imgur.com/a/IdwWjAB

Now that's driving home the rectal cluebat to someone already butthurt...