Dainana Maouji Jilbagias no Maou Keikokuki - Ch. 16.2

[stilgar]

Sucks to suck

 

[blacksaber79]

Now that's driving home the rectal cluebat to someone already butthurt...

Now we wait to see if @rokegle135 reads and responds to the first line in the TOS

 

[Laisy]

Dude, I'm just here to see how people react to the brutal roasting and that the new dog(elf) genuinely love MC as a pet, and all I see are people not reading the website rules and discussion (?) on demons.

 

[KuroZer0]

 

[Sokar]

The raws are also divided, y'all fighting over nothing here

 

[pgerryan]

3 topics in this one comment section is wild, its like eating PB&J sandwich with spicy sauce on top.

Word of advice for ones that protest about chapter releases : you don't get to complain if you read all this shit for free. Even if you are a paying patron, go DM the group in private. You're embarassing yourselves

 

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@DLRevan @Grikath @blacksaber79 I'll give you 3 some time to read the site rules from https://mangadex.org/rules before you go into an argument regarding it

 

[0Zion]

WE ARE SO BACK! MORE! I NEED ELF SAINT RELEASED AND WITH FULL ARMS AND LEGS HUHUHUHU

 

[Ven-20]

"Wow, what a chapter, let's read the comments"

 

[Amplify]

Would you say the same if it was 4 pages at a time? One page, as they get done, with like 30 uploads for each chapter? If not, then where's the limit for it and why? Typically a full chapter is released as a full chapter, and decimal chapters (ie 2.1, 2.2, etc) are for side, bonus, or omake content. That's the convention almost every group uses, from fansites like mangadex all the way to official releases at yenpress. You are allowed to voice your opinion and give criticism on things, even free things, if it's done to improve the general quality of the work and for the right reasons.

I'm not being critical of the upload group and I'm not making any demands, I'm just saying it's a better idea to release it as one chapter. You don't have to glaze everything like a begger.

There's several limits / lines, as long as they are all being adhered to then I cannot blame the scanlators at all and neither should you.

1: What is the original author doing?

If the scanlator is uploading parts or chapters in the same way that the original publisher did with all pages intact, then there is nothing to fault here.

2: Are you paying for anything here?

If you're paying to get both parts released together, you get to complain. If you're not doing anything more involved than moving your eyeballs around the page then don't read if you don't like it.

3: Is the quality of the scanlation itself decent?

If it's all left aligned Ariel font MTL garbage then they may deserve your derision, especially if there was another group that hasn't publicly dropped the series, as it discourages real scanlators from translating it in the future.

4: Are they uploading parts or chapters only in response to another scanlator?

This one's a bit more of a grey area. If they're being slow and somebody comes doing it faster and then they release their own chapter two hours later, pick your preferred one for either speed or quality reasons and give that one praise, don't give either attention or hate to the other.


That about covers everything. tl;dr don't be a choosy beggar.
Don't get me wrong I hate parts myself, but blame the author and this recent trend of making every series into parts for that, not the scanlator.

 

[irondark30]

Daaaang she already loves him?? No apprehension, fear, doubt? But like instant love??

 

[Liquidxlax]

I don't think they could have ever discovered it because even if they figure it out she could feign love. Shit is pretty harsh for the night elves.

 

[blacksaber79]

@DLRevan @Grikath @blacksaber79 I'll give you 3 some time to read the site rules from https://mangadex.org/rules before you go into an argument regarding it

I forgot this even started...oh well...back to more important things

 

[Bartolumiu]

https://imgur.com/a/IdwWjAB

Please, don't try to spread misinformation by editing the rules page's HTML code and, if you do it, do it correctly instead of putting typos...

For anyone interested in the actual rules: https://mangadex.org/rules

 

[DLRevan]

@DLRevan @Grikath @blacksaber79 I'll give you 3 some time to read the site rules from https://mangadex.org/rules before you go into an argument regarding it

We have read it. We know it. That's the whole point.

3.2.1. Do not arbitrarily combine several chapters into a single release.

If there's any ambiguity about this, it's as sub-chapters. However if you're going to be pedantic about this, then the rule should be clearer, that's not our problem. Furthermore the source released it separately as well. "Sub-chapters" is just a label.

3.2.2. Chapters may only be split into parts if the source material was also split in the same way. Chapters that have been split up by the scanlators for any other reason may be recombined into singular whole chapters.

By implication and in order to not contradict the first rule, this also means nobody should recombine content where the source was also split, into "whole" chapters.

3.4.6. Use decimals (1.1, 1.5, etc.) for chapters that are split into parts, or for bonus chapters/volume extras/etc.

This rule further acknowledges the issue of sub-chapters and by implication accepts that some manga are structured this way.

And if I want to be especially cheeky,
4.2. MangaDex does not condone contacting groups about changing their restrictions or uploading their releases. If you are contacting a group, be polite, and make it clear you are not associated with MangaDex.

Even if this rule seems to imply private communications, the spirit of it should stand. We're not here to criticize or hound groups about their practices or releasing sooner. The original poster of that sparked this issue also was anything but "polite". Ultimately this is not just about your uploading rules, but about how a group chooses to release. The guy was being an entitled troll. Do you dispute that? I think many here would disagree.

Every day there are folk who attack groups for exactly this type of issue, and groups are caught between your rules, the readers demands, and their own circumstances. You could do better than to just tell us to read the rules and vaguely imply we did something wrong, but maybe you don't have the time. I personally think you don't have the time given the volume of such casually rampant comments, this forum isn't the cleanest, so get off our backs when we have at people like this.

And yes I'm typing this here in public because if there's something you don't agree on these points or my stance, I think everyone here should be made aware of that. So what did you mean, other than to mic-drop us the site rules link?

 

[le3]

This chapter (and most of the comment here) can be summarize as 'this is what happened when you don't do your fucking homework, a complete shit storm'

 

[BobBruhvino]

bro has been down in that dungeon for like half of this story now lol

 

[ThreeTakeWonder]

Got his nuggies

 

[Teasday]

3.2.2. Chapters may only be split into parts if the source material was also split in the same way. Chapters that have been split up by the scanlators for any other reason may be recombined into singular whole chapters.

By implication and in order to not contradict the first rule, this also means nobody should recombine content where the source was also split, into "whole" chapters.

To hopefully clear up the ambiguity, "may be only split if x" does not mean "must remain split in all cases", neither on its face nor by implication. There is no rule preventing recombination of these kinds of publisher-split web chapters. In fact, in many cases it's preferred though not required, for fairly obvious reasons.

We don't consider this as arbitrary combining in the sense of what 3.2.1 is meant to prohibit, because these kinds of split chapters are typically also released as whole ones in other mediums (magazines, volumes) — that's kind of the point of the split decimal numbering in the first place.

3.4.6. Use decimals (1.1, 1.5, etc.) for chapters that are split into parts, or for bonus chapters/volume extras/etc.

This rule further acknowledges the issue of sub-chapters and by implication accepts that some manga are structured this way.

I'm repeating my previous point, but few if any manga are actually structured like this from the start. It's more a consequence of certain (web) release platforms staggering the releases compared to what the original compiled work is intended to be, as indicated by the chapter numbering.

In short, these kinds of split chapters are allowed to be released split first, combined first, or recombined later.

 

[Xakorik]

The main complaint about the split this time is the timeframe of the uploads, they were uploaded so close together that they could have just uploaded it as one chapter.