Danjo no Yujou wa Seiritsu suru? (Iya, Shinai!!) - Vol. 4 Ch. 30.2

[shinshom]

wow..... this was a horrible interaction... xD.... sure they are teens but holy shit.... lies and manipulations and... aiai

 

[Derksy]

I honestly hope she's not gonna bullshit her way out of this one next chapter.
If she does I might just turn myself into a manga character just to beat her ass...

 

[Shamanfox]

The further the story is progressing with this one the worse the story is becoming.

It’s starting to get to the point where the MC and FMC are so poorly written that RAG would look like a good manga in comparison…

 

[essensue]

Side note, the LN looks to have 10 volumes and has been a thing since 2021. Wonder how far the manga adaption will follow.

Volume 11 is out next month, and they seem pretty well-rated, so regardless of quality, it seems like it delivers on what customers are expecting. And we're near the end of LN1 now? That's an intimidating amount of content.

Tbh, at this point all I wanted was for them both to come clean about this whole thing. Didn't have to include their confession, they can keep that on the backburner. Whole scenario wasn't sittin right with me, if things just return to the status quo as though it never happened in the first place? Man...

Sounds like (from other comments) things do make gradual progress, and right now I still trust the author to slowly and realistically have these fragile little jerks mature into great people who deserve each other in a good way, rather than the current bad way. I'll be out if this was revealed to be a status quo ad infinitum kind of affair after this arc.

Mostly I want to highlight a kind of paradoxical element of Himari's (probable) character that your comment made me think of: It would probably be easier for her to come clean about this as part of a dramatic confession, where she can bury the lede of her deception, than it would be to just admit what she did and why she did it. Because...

So what im taking away from this is that I should just lie through my teeth, gaslight and makes scenes in front of my partner to make them feel miserable to get what I want without ever having to put myself in a position of emotional vulnerability.

This will carry no consequences if they love me enough, since otherwise it was obviously just not meant to be.

Yep, she's terrible, and I could see that being her brand of cope, but I think the author explicitly does not endorse her behavior: This is to hopefully set up the consequences that lead to her epiphany and development. The fact that she's manipulative and loved by all in middle school might literally be the first thing we're told about her via narration in the middle of chapter one. It's not a skill she cultivated later in life, it is her way of life and other than maybe with her brother, it's the only way she knows how to be. She knows others' feelings enough to manipulate them easily, but she doesn't understand how important those feelings are to them.

A specifically unpunished crime, of someone she hurts badly but who stays with her, whether or not they know what she did to them, is exactly the kind of thing she needs to see first-hand the real, unintended effects of trying to get what she wants without consideration. She can take responsibility for changing herself when she takes responsibility for them and the pain she's caused. There needs to be a mess that she owns, in many senses of the word.

 

[KingWhooper]

I miss the pre-timeskip Himari 💔 I ship them but honestly, every chapter gets harder when she be acting like this. Yuu x bro in-law 🔛🔝

 

[Tymo]

So what im taking away from this is that I should just lie through my teeth, gaslight and makes scenes in front of my partner to make them feel miserable to get what I want without ever having to put myself in a position of emotional vulnerability.

This will carry no consequences if they love me enough, since otherwise it was obviously just not meant to be.

There is still the possiblity this is all unreliable narration and MC is just manipulating her back to get the truth out of her, which if he is - fair game to the author. However if it's not and they're really going down this path - this author has serious issues & has a horribly warped sense of reality. Or they're just a horrible writer.

There's your popcorn, TL as thanks for the translation.

Couldn't have said better. Either way, even if MC is manipulating her, it doesn't suddenly make any of these characters any less insufferable.

 

[Dingo777]

So what im taking away from this is that I should just lie through my teeth, gaslight and makes scenes in front of my partner to make them feel miserable to get what I want without ever having to put myself in a position of emotional vulnerability.

This will carry no consequences if they love me enough, since otherwise it was obviously just not meant to be.

There is still the possiblity this is all unreliable narration and MC is just manipulating her back to get the truth out of her, which if he is - fair game to the author. However if it's not and they're really going down this path - this author has serious issues & has a horribly warped sense of reality. Or they're just a horrible writer.

There's your popcorn, TL as thanks for the translation.

Oh don’t worry bud there’s gonna be consequences, a volume’s worth.

 

[guygarelard]

Thanks for the TL, you've definitely been getting better.

Oh don’t worry bud there’s gonna be consequences, a volume’s worth.

It better be good, and it better be soon, because this amount of "fuck around" edging without a sufficient "find out" climax is pretty bad pacing if you want your audience to not feel blue balled IMHO.

Maybe the pacing is better in the LN?

 

[Ann2004]

The comments section never disappoint me, thank you for that😂 also I hope I finally improved even a little since the first time I translated this series since it's been 3 months now since I started this🙇‍♂️

Edit: I think the anime will end on this part.

Edit#2: himari haters will probably drop this series after the next chapter😂

"Next chapter"? You mean this isn't even the worst one yet? We went through this whole shitshow of an arc to end on this chapter, that ended somehow with MC being the wrong one and has to made sacrifices to both his dignity and his life to follow Himari's whim, and Himari will most likely learn nothing from this, or worse, getting reinforcement that as long as she cries, she will get what she want. And you're telling me that it's not the worst yet?

 

[Ann2004]

Oh don’t worry bud there’s gonna be consequences, a volume’s worth.

Consequences for who though? Cause I far as I can see, entirely based on the comments of people who have read the novel, only Yuu will be suffering the consequences of his choice to follow Himari to Tokyo.

 

[3turtlesinacoat]

Im guessing that weve "found out" enough for a bit now himaris gonna reenter the "fuck around" phase. Cause no shot is she gonna actually come clean or explain her feelings properly, that is simpl not the girl she has been so far.
Thanks for the chapters tho

 

[ItsThatBriGuy]

Oh no, so there is that much more content in the novels?

That means there is a high possibility for the manga adaptation to end up getting the dreaded "Read the novel for more" ending.

Yeah, the novels are also crazy long, too. V4 alone is two physical books in the original Japanese. Plenty for the manga to run on until we're all dead and gone, if they want.

 

[ItsThatBriGuy]

Consequences for who though? Cause I far as I can see, entirely based on the comments of people who have read the novel, only Yuu will be suffering the consequences of his choice to follow Himari to Tokyo.

Yuu has one volume of consequences. Himari has another volume for hers. Hers are arguably much more serious.

 

[Artyom2035]

Himari hater here. Not exactly hating Himari but hate how she turns out and could be better. It's nice we finally see how Himari almost realize her foolishness, but it's so unfortunate MC's degree of absolute simpiness basically blown that arc out of existence. Himari realizing what she's doing is wrong, be apologetic for her toxicity, and be better is most of what I wanted out of this story.

But regardless, I'm happy that MC chose Himari. Just because I dislike Himari doesn't mean I want to see her completely destroyed and unhappy - not at all. This is because I thought of both MC and Himari as absolute troubled individuals which, by great happenstance, met each other and achieve happy ending with just the two of them, and by extension sparing potential future lovers of their bullshit. It's like seeing garbage taking themselves out.

Thereafter, Enocchi may meet someone better for her in the future. Funny how people go into groups and unwrittenly decided that rooting heroines getting together with MC is the win scenario. Hell naw. If this were real people and are my personal friends, Enocchi dodging him would be the win, but that's just me.

So yeah - I'm a Himari hater that's on team Himari.

Honestly I hate her and up until this chapter I used to root for enocchi too, but now... Man that guy is absolutely spineless and broken it seems, incredibly stupid too. I had hopes on him just being "a bit cowardly" at most because his inner monologues seemed interesting. But holy shit this guy... hell nah run Enocchi.
On another note did this is still all Himaris fault, she pushed him onto another woman while testing their "friendship" to the limit where their relationship obviously wasn't normal and then basically manipulated him to come back crawling to her. This is honestly just sad and a dumpster fire of relationship, nontheless this is very entertaining.

 

[horsewithnoname]

But holy shit this guy... hell nah run Enocchi.

On another note did this is still all Himaris fault

nontheless this is very entertaining.

I agree on all accounts. I was afraid that people would dogpile on my comment but I'm glad there are people that see things same way I do too.

And yeah, it is very entertaining still even if some aspect is so infuriating.
Easy to see people dropping this from the way it developed. Hopefully some of us Himari haters stays to the end.

 

[mrls026_]

The comments section never disappoint me, thank you for that😂 also I hope I finally improved even a little since the first time I translated this series since it's been 3 months now since I started this🙇‍♂️

Edit: I think the anime will end on this part.

Edit#2: himari haters will probably drop this series after the next chapter😂

Himawari's hater here: my reaction is "I was expecting their reconciliation", anyone with little experience in rom-coms knows they'll gonna end together. I personally hate her because she reminds me an old friend who behave just like her, but she dind't have Himawari's development, so our blue-haired ahoge will redeem herself 👍🏻

 

[Angelnickl]

Thanks for the uploads, and I appreciate your quality TLs every time. Now on to the plot, yeah this makes sense. Just need to see how it plays out and how much she plans to reveal. If it is only an oopsies not going to tokyo teehee, then I hope the consequences other people have spoken about hit her like a truck.

 

[KYi7O]

dis manga mid like carti new album , shithouse

 

[TheSisMare]

I KNEW HER BROTHERS ADVICE WASN'T GOOD.


Like in the following dreams and business sense it was correct. But in this instance, the solution is literally confessing her feelings and starting a relationship. In which said relationship would develop their passion for the flower accessories and wanting to build a future together.


We are close but she is stupid, he obviously Loves her but the use of friend is holding both of them back.

 

[JoJoBar]

sigh... seems like she wont be apologizing, and never admitted to lie. i've seen prideful pieces of shit in the past but fuck man THE FMC OF ALL CHARAS ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS.
dude this whole time i've been team himari but i might fuckin switch to team enomoto despite knowing damn well she'll lose (i always pick the losing one ffs 😭 )