Dekisokonai no Monster Trainer - Vol. 4 Ch. 18 - Dragon-Killing Dragon

[MangaDex]

 

[Vasqueztion]

ITM: People keep assuming small things are weak because they are small.

 

[Magaso]

IV Bred vs wild catch

 

[Merilirem]

@Vasqueztion Well the real world goes by similar logic. Smaller things are usually weaker. Size is tied to physical ability to a certain degree.

In the world of magic and wonder however there are a lot of extra reasons thats not going to be true. Sure bigger does mean stronger, but as shown it varies greatly between species and such. Its like the Human-Gorilla comparison taken even further.

In this world it seems to have similar logic though they also account for the size of the creatures race. This is after all a baby and relatively weak compared to its older kin.

 

[GodGinrai]

@Merilirem You are apparently unaware of the concept of poison. A large number of the most deadly creatures in our world are smaller than a housecat.

 

[Merilirem]

@GodGinrai That has nothing to do with strength. Poison isn't ever considered the same way. Those small creatures are weak despite being dangerous.

Deadly/dangerous is not strength. At least its not what people think of when you say strength especially given this context.

I live in Australia, i know poisonous things are dangerous. I also know that redbacks are not actually that dangerous if dealt with appropriately. They are weak and fragile.

 

[GodGinrai]

@Merilirem Strength isn't just about durability. Something can be both weak and strong at the same time. If you play any video games, you should know the term "glass cannon". Strength can certainly be determined by how dangerous one is, because strength is a measure of power.

 

[Wolvenworks]

APCR'd lol

WoT players will relate

 

[never_preorder]

So... In this world, the cuter the monster the stronger it is? that's why the MC has a slime?

 

[Merilirem]

@GodGinrai Look, your just ignoring my point of missing it. Poison has nothing to do with the context being used. It was merely about how size loosely correlates to physical strength.

Your basically just arguing over the definition of strength at this point. The dictionary definition being applicable to what i was talking about, not everything you have been saying.

 

[kwendy]

And now we have "cricket" gun gimmik.

 

[TheFiller]

Thank You i Hope we See more chapters ?

 

[MrFakOff]

Oh you guys were still alive i though this series was dropped

 

[MangaAddict69]

I'm glad that they are still Scanlating this!?

 

[GodGinrai]

@Merilirem Vasqueztion never stated he was talking about physical strength in the first place. Rather than me ignoring your point, I was implying that your point only addressed physical circumstances.

 

[Merilirem]

@GodGinrai Thats because it was about assuming small things were weaker, which they generally are. Spiders are still weak and can be easily crushed. The poison is not enough to say they are strong. The poison itself can be considered strong but it just does not do enough for them to outmatch anything larger.

Basically within the context of assumptions of strength my point was simple. Your bringing up of poisons is simply not relevant. I was talking about physical strength but thats because there is no other strength that relevant to the conversation.

 

[GodGinrai]

@Merilirem Aren't snakes a perfect example of something smaller than their prey that often use poison to overpower said prey? Are you going to imply that they are not "stronger" than their prey? Just like a gorilla, for example, has the physical strength provided by their muscles, a snake has the strength that is provided by the poison that is developed within their bodies. Saying that doesn't count and that just the poison is strong but not the creature who generates it is pretty myopic, IMO.

 

[Merilirem]

@GodGinrai Look, i said as much in my original comment. It not a perfect system but its generally bigger=stronger. Poison im not counting because it deals with a whole different set of physical characteristics such as poison resistance and immune systems etc. Its stuff that only matters when one is involved. I am talking about general stuff not specific stuff and poison falls into a different category. Just like how humans have brainpower as a strength but its completely different yet again.

You are not using the same context as me or terminology. I say again i am using ones closer to the dictionary definitions of these words. You are not. I am not disagreeing about the idea that you could consider things "stronger" than that which they kill for food. Thats not the strength being used in my comments however. All thats happening right now are word games.

 

[GodGinrai]

@Merilirem You're going to look pretty stupid if next chapter it is revealed that the dragon is a Pint-Sized Powerhouse, ( https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PintsizedPowerhouse ) but sure, go ahead and accuse me of playing word games.

 

[Merilirem]

@GodGinrai Ok that makes me certain you have no idea what im talking about. I am expecting as much, my comments have never hinged on this little guy being weak. Probably has some extra secret too like anti fire or whatever. concentrated flames perhaps idk.

Seriously what have you been reading to think that?