Destiny Unchain Online ~Kyuuketsu-ki Shoujo to natte, Yagate "Aka no Maou" to Yobareru You ni Narimashita~ - Vol. 11 Ch. 95 - The Minnows’ Raison d’Ê…

[Miserys_End]

I just used the same argument you did. A rare and statistically irrelevant event. If you think that's a strawman, that's on you.


And my point was that that observation is irrelevant. If any job can be dangerous, it's not a useful quality to discuss.

My original point when talking about something dangerous, I was talking about something that has a high risk of death or severe injury, to the point where how risky it is is a main point of evaluation. That's not true for working in a kitchen. It's also not true for working as a smith. It is true for working in a mine. It's also true for working as an adventurer (and related jobs).

So you're saying that a mine shaft collapsing is inherently more dangerous then a faulty pressure cooker exploding, someone loosing control of their vehicle or in the case of an adventurer being ambushed by some monster.

All I'm poorly attempting to say is that you're generalizing to much and reality is more nuanced. True a poorly run mine will almost inevitably lead to a collapse, just as a poorly run kitchen will lead to food poisoning and or worker fatalities. All job sites can be dangerous if ran poorly, and even the safest one can suffer catastrophic accidents.

 

[AnotherDuck]

So you're saying that a mine shaft collapsing is inherently more dangerous then a faulty pressure cooker exploding, someone loosing control of their vehicle or in the case of an adventurer being ambushed by some monster.

What's the number of people who die in mining accidents in a medieval society compared to those who die in kitchen accidents? How many people would avoid working in a mine compared to in a kitchen because of the danger? Are you saying those are the same?

All I'm poorly attempting to say is that you're generalizing to much and reality is more nuanced.

I get the impression that that's what you're doing. Generalising everything as "dangerous", when there are clearly different levels of danger in different professions.

 

[Miserys_End]

What's the number of people who die in mining accidents in a medieval society compared to those who die in kitchen accidents? How many people would avoid working in a mine compared to in a kitchen because of the danger? Are you saying those are the same?

And yet I wonder how many more have died or suffered from food poisoning and sanitation issues in kitchens... after all it's true mining operations are a rather hazardous job, but ultimately it was rather limited to locations with needed resources.

OTOH every community, in every part of the world, at all levels of of society needs some form of a kitchen. This in no way disregards the danger of the mining industry, only it's scope. In raw numbers, I would say more people suffer from poor food handling practices, then those that have been stuffed into a mine.

I get the impression that that's what you're doing. Generalising everything as "dangerous", when there are clearly different levels of danger in different professions.

O . o
Ah yes.. multiple paragraphs explaining my decades long experience of burns, cuts, grease fires and minor explosions is generalizing.... seems our definitions differ rather drastically...

 

[AnotherDuck]

And yet I wonder how many more have died or suffered from food poisoning and sanitation issues in kitchens... after all it's true mining operations are a rather hazardous job, but ultimately it was rather limited to locations with needed resources.

I don't care, because it's not relevant. More people doing something doesn't make it more dangerous for each individual.

Ah yes.. multiple paragraphs explaining my decades long experience of burns, cuts, grease fires and minor explosions is generalizing.... seems our definitions differ rather drastically...

Didn't read, because it wasn't relevant.

 

[Miserys_End]

I don't care, because it's not relevant. More people doing something doesn't make it more dangerous for each individual.


Didn't read, because it wasn't relevant.

Gotcha. You can't come up with an argument so just disregard anything the other person says. Cool strat. Way to remove yourself from relevance. I enjoyed this conversation in english.

 

[sumipe]

This filler arc is so boring

 

[AnotherDuck]

Gotcha. You can't come up with an argument so just disregard anything the other person says. Cool strat. Way to remove yourself from relevance. I enjoyed this conversation in english.

You got it backwards. You removed yourself from relevance. You're the one who jumped into the argument, so it's on you to prove you have something of relevance. You failed.

 

[Oakheir]

...Yes?

The forge is dangerous. The furnace is dangerous. Superheated metal is dangerous. Working with said metal is dangerous. The tools are dangerous. And of course, they're making weapons.

It is entirely justifiable for them to tell the princess that this isn't an appropriate line of work for her.

Telling the princess of a culture that worships and revolves around fighting because it is dangerous is kind of bass ackwards. As the princess of such a culture, you should be encouraging this kind of behavior.