Dorei kara no Kitai to Hyouka no sei de Sakushu dekinai no daga - Ch. 8

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I'll give it to this manga, I enjoy having switching perspectives instead of solely trying to read just the MC-kun's neuroticism. Most of time, it becomes a bit of drag to read their low self-esteem perspective, so its refreshing seeing other characters.
 
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wait she just fucking kills herself??? fucking lol
In short, yes, though that novel chapter goes into more details, and give you a clue on why the mc is the way he is and why she acted the way she did with him (and you can guess why the goddess is trying to bully him too), she was basically a weak willed person, that without the support of her only family left, took action and ended her life, chapter in question
 
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Just a reminder for those who don't know or have forgotten, Allen is believed to be a massive M according to the goddess and his sister. Don't know if she's roasting MC every which way out of her own amusement or out of infatuation for Allen, but with or without his low IQ mind, I don't blame him for getting dense of her motives.

As for what comes next, Spiderbros, prepare yourselves.
 
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I'm willing to accept a lot of stupidity in my mindless wish fulfillment manga, but the idea that they wouldn't know about fermentation is a step too far. I mean, isn't there alcohol in this world? (I'll be honest, I don't actually remember but there's no way someone wrote an isekai without including some fantasy tavern scene) People have been fermenting food since before recorded history. Even if it takes some time and a lot of trial and error to master it, it's practically impossible not to discover it.
I thought he mentioned it being used in alcohol. Plus all the lines about keeping the method to baking fluffy bread to himself could goo to showing that for the general populous of the world, this knowledge is being gatekept for high nobility or the like. Meannwhile MC just treats it like, "hey want to see something neat?"
 
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Can't work out if the goddess is actually a bitch or not 🤨
LOL if it's your only form of entertainment and you can whisper in their ear i can imagine egging them on or just causing chaos lol

"Do a flip!"

Tho, be interesting if she was able to telepathically communicate to the other 'slaves' too to stir up more shenanigans

it is amusing how 'useless' he seems to be but still understand how to make soybean oil/sauce /etc, even if Japanese teens get more 'home ec/cooking lessons' in their youth compared to american schools, Allen never rly struck me as someone who paid attention in class unless he was 'forced' to always make food for his little sis or like was a tryhard in making sweets to impress girls then too lol

(hm , tho other than reading his mind or observing other humans, knowing terms like "computer" and "ram", maybe she also has access to the internet/other stuff available on her goddess tablet)
 
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So its one of those powers that can be loosely translated, huh. At least they put a limitation to it but I guess we'll eventually have a training arc or some shit where he unlocks his full potential?
 
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basically this manga is about

girl who know about his uselesness bitching around and teases him because they like him (goddess and his sister from his previous world, i mean she killed herself after his death bruh)
and those who worshipping him without knowing how clueless he is with everything around him lol
 
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I'm willing to accept a lot of stupidity in my mindless wish fulfillment manga, but the idea that they wouldn't know about fermentation is a step too far. I mean, isn't there alcohol in this world? (I'll be honest, I don't actually remember but there's no way someone wrote an isekai without including some fantasy tavern scene) People have been fermenting food since before recorded history. Even if it takes some time and a lot of trial and error to master it, it's practically impossible not to discover it.
Honestly, it's not even tthat unrealistic. Alcohol consumption dates back to hunter gatherer times.
Using fermentation is one thing, understanding it is another.
In a world with magic it's not that hard to imagine that many of the food inovations of our world maybe did not happen there.
For example: if there is magic to preserve food(be it ice, time, etc), the cases where people simply had to risk food poisoning eating spoilt food so they don't starve would be way lesser to the point where those were spoiled food that doesn't kill you don't get popularized.
 
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Can't believe that MC is a
M and he is aroused by abuse and toxic language. Atleast that is what his sister believed

Just look at the novel a bit.

Also MC's power is OP as fuxk, dude is not only immortal, he can keep his young with restoration, making his enemies become an infant by restore them back to their childhood. Or even making them disintegrate by restore them back to free particles ?
 
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Can't believe that MC is a
M and he is aroused by abuse and toxic language. Atleast that is what his sister believed

Just look at the novel a bit.

Also MC's power is OP as fuxk, dude is not only immortal, he can keep his young with restoration, making his enemies become an infant by restore them back to their childhood. Or even making them disintegrate by restore them back to free particles ?
MC can literally make anyone be unborn... WISHMASTER STYLE!
 
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The goddess trolling him will never get old for me & I believe she likes him as someone to mess with like a sadist. Whoever kidnapped Allen will probably regret it given that girls have high spec skills & won’t be merciful should Allen decide to forgive his kidnapper. Thanks for the translations.
Bonus points,if I'm reading the spoilers mentioned here correctly,if the kidnappers wanted his virginity but his girls will save him before it can happen,before getting added to his forever virgin harem.
 
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I thought he mentioned it being used in alcohol. Plus all the lines about keeping the method to baking fluffy bread to himself could goo to showing that for the general populous of the world, this knowledge is being gatekept for high nobility or the like. Meannwhile MC just treats it like, "hey want to see something neat?"
Honestly, it's not even tthat unrealistic. Alcohol consumption dates back to hunter gatherer times.
Using fermentation is one thing, understanding it is another.
In a world with magic it's not that hard to imagine that many of the food inovations of our world maybe did not happen there.
For example: if there is magic to preserve food(be it ice, time, etc), the cases where people simply had to risk food poisoning eating spoilt food so they don't starve would be way lesser to the point where those were spoiled food that doesn't kill you don't get popularized.
Before I go on an unhinged rant I just want to be clear that I am in fact enjoying this manga. It's fun watching the MC twist himself into knots out of insecurity. Also nothing personal against awake1122 or Rafaelrgm. You bring up good points, I just happen to disagree
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He did mention it was used in alcohol, but I'm not sure if that was just him reminiscing about japan, or if alcohol has made an appearance in the story. The thing is, fermentation is something that just happens. You don't need to understand it. People were fermenting things for millenia (quite likely before homo sapiens had even evolved) before anyone had any idea what the mechanism was, and they still managed to figure out how to leaven their bread. Fermentation is both vital and unavoidable in a pre-refrigeration society.
Yes, in a magic world you could have some sort of preservation magic, but given the setting I don't think that would be available to the common people. Something that definitely is in the story is references to people going hungry and MC wanting to feed everyone and end all that. Specifically when he was making fertilizer, I believe. That part I don't have a problem with since manufacturing effective fertilizer is a pretty recent development. In fact widespread instances of famine were quite common until a certain german chemist figured out how to manufacture nitrogen rich fertilizer, thus kicking off the green revolution and an explosion in population. (he would later go on to pioneer the use of chlorine gas in world war 1, drive his wife to suicide, and found the company that made zyclon b - great guy!)
So we know that commoners are living in a scarcity situation and probably don't have access to any preservation magic, which all but guarantees that they'll have witnessed fermentation and have sufficient motivation to make use of it, because again, it just happens. Leave some fruit out for a while? Alcohol. And they'll want to drink it not just for fun, but because it's less likely to give them dysentery. They won't know why but you don't need to know why.
Leave some wet flour out for a couple of days? Sourdough. Nice and fluffy and with a pleasant tang.
Don't feel like making sourdough? long before anyone knew that yeast was a microscopic fungus that poops alcohol and CO2 they were using leftovers from the brewing process to leaven their bread. (they called it barm) How did they figure that out? I don't know, but I'd guess someone at some point needed some water to make bread and that was the cleanest stuff available (they'd have already figured out that drinking beer made them less violently ill then drinking from the river everyone throws their shit in. Not that they would understand the mechanism, but people are pretty good at making observations).
And it's not just yeast. One of the oldest ways of preserving food is salting it. Just laying on so much of the stuff that you have to soak it for hours to make it edible again. But salt ain't cheap and we're talking about a populace of commoners where it's already been established that hunger is an issue so maybe they didn't have enough salt to go the full way. Guess what? You've just set the stage for fermentation. Lacto bacillus bacteria is hardy enough to survive salt levels that kill other more harmful bacteria so if somebody skimped on the salt a little guess what? you just discovered pickling.
These are all things that are practically bound to happen because again: it's been established that there is a population of commoners who are dealing with scarce resources and don't have access to refrigeration (magic or otherwise) It is 99.999% guaranteed that they'd be making use of fermentation
 

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