Fake Saint of the Year: You Wanted the Perfect Saint? Too Bad! - Ch. 25.2
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Gurl, that "peace" was because Elrise went around massacring the monsters, purifying the land, and acting as deterrent. And do you think the witch will keep quiet, especially if she knew that the saint wasn't allowed to fight the witch and got imprisoned?
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You should say that to the kings, imagine their reaction when the witch started attacking full force again lol.Gurl, that "peace" was because Elrise went around massacring the monsters, purifying the land, and acting as deterrent. And do you think the witch will keep quiet, especially if she knew that the saint wasn't allowed to fight the witch and got imprisoned?
Though that scenario probably won't happen anyways as i predict myself what will ensues.
Actually is it common knowledge to the rest of the world? I know Elrise has appeared during multiple monster attacks, but did they know she was the one keeping the monster population low, rather than only appearing during emergencies? I think there is a good chance the kings have taken peace for granted and never realized they only had peace because Elrise is allowed to roam free.Gurl, that "peace" was because Elrise went around massacring the monsters, purifying the land, and acting as deterrent. And do you think the witch will keep quiet, especially if she knew that the saint wasn't allowed to fight the witch and got imprisoned?
Side note, I recently found out the LN is officially translated on j-novel, so that's one more series added to my backlog.
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The kings were really willing to sacrifice someone else for the sake of their wishful world peace. No skin off their own backs. Not one of them thought they might instead have not only the witch as their enemy but the saint as well? The saint obviously is not any beacon of pure goodwill if the saint always becomes the next witch upon killing the previous one. So, ultimately, the saint can be corrupted 100%. So, at worst, they could end up with a combo of a witch and an anti-saint.
Those achievements the reasons why everybody called Elrise the strongest saint. Afterall, Elrise did those in front of as many people as she could to publicize her "saintness." It was explained more in the novel, about her purifying the land and solving food problem.
The kings just stoopidly believe that the witch wouldn't do anything even after knowing that the saint is imprisoned and wouldn't be there to stop her.
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At least with this pace, the arc will be resolved fast enough
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I wonder how they will resolve the "bird in the cage" scenario
There's a crucial bit of info that's missing at this point, which I think has been revealed in the LN by this point. Elrise isn't just another saint -- she's by far the greatest saint ever. And hence she's expected to become by far the worst witch ever.
Consequently their plan is actually the best choice (at least as far as the kings know).
I keep wanting to explain more from the LN, but in the end I think that's best read by itself. Some important realizations are understated and/or between the lines.
Consequently their plan is actually the best choice (at least as far as the kings know).
I keep wanting to explain more from the LN, but in the end I think that's best read by itself. Some important realizations are understated and/or between the lines.
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Gurl, that "peace" was because Elrise went around massacring the monsters, purifying the land, and acting as deterrent. And do you think the witch will keep quiet, especially if she knew that the saint wasn't allowed to fight the witch and got imprisoned?
Umm, yes? Remember that when Elrise slip back to Earth last time they discussed how the Witch's route is completely gone?
The route that start by Vernel finding the witch (STILL witch, mind you) when she sneak out from her hiding place?
That implies that regardless of future events, like whether Elrise got imprisoned or not, the witch will STILL refuse to come out.
Also have you forgot that for everyone who's not aware Elrise is a fake saint, the idea of Elrise becoming the new, strongest, witch from killing the witch is WORSE than leaving the current witch alive?
Alexia's route being gone that male MC was talking about was just about her unable to get conquered (no lover route), not that she won't ever come out. They just said that the witch is hiding in dungeons of the academy and will teleport away if Elrise is closing in on her; but if they send only knights (or anyone else) without Elrise among them they can still meet Alexia (which can lead to Vernel's and Eterna's bad ends). They were even talking about Alexia fooling them by lurking somewhere else aside from the dungeons and getting her hands on Eterna's parents. Which means that she can go out. And even while hiding, Alexia is still a constant threat because as the witch she will keep creating monsters like she did all along.
Besides, whatever MC was talking about on earth is something that these in-game people can ever know. There's no Deadpool breaking 4th wall there. Which means that these kings can't know if the witch will keep hiding or not.
About Elrise becoming the strongest witch, they can talk it out with her instead of straight out antagonizing her and even using hostage. They were so sure of Elrise's goodness to never take revenge on them even if they used hostage and imprison her. Even though they knew that saints can turn evil, like what happened to all previous saints.
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If you suffer that much from withdrawal because you've not seen someone in a week, yes, I do blame you. You're obsessed, and you need help.
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https://mangadex.org/chapter/2156e3c7-ea5c-43cf-9014-10af5fe83543/7
https://mangadex.org/chapter/2156e3c7-ea5c-43cf-9014-10af5fe83543/8
He literally just explained how the witch is so cowardly/pessimistic that she's just imagining the worst case scenario and stay in hiding on her own.
The part after that were them talking about possibilities.
Like this page here:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/2156e3c7-ea5c-43cf-9014-10af5fe83543/13
Is talking about how to save Alexia in her route, which again is no longer available.
Neither do these kings know Elrise is a fake saint, thus their fear of her becoming the new, more powerful witch with no Elrise++ to counter her.
To them even if Alexia try something it's still going to be easier to handle than witch-Elrise, even if we assume they won't let Elrise out (and Alexia teleporting away when that happen)
Did you skip over ch 24 or selectively choose to forget it?
https://mangadex.org/chapter/31625c1d-ddde-4fcc-93de-4651ac2d9e0a/8
They
https://mangadex.org/chapter/94762a90-1194-4e8f-a985-162eae74fdeb/1
DID
https://mangadex.org/chapter/94762a90-1194-4e8f-a985-162eae74fdeb/2
Tried
https://mangadex.org/chapter/94762a90-1194-4e8f-a985-162eae74fdeb/3
And guess what her answer was:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/94762a90-1194-4e8f-a985-162eae74fdeb/7
'no'
That's when they chose to do this hostage stuff.
It's only one freaking chapter ago, you could've double check that first before being this wrong.
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Ok, so at the start of the series the MC (who knows the game inside out) and other characters point out that the saints are idolized in this universe (ex: the academy) and now it's casually taken as fact that they are actually reviled and feared to the point of being caged and others making attempts at their lives? Holy retcon!
They literally were talking about conquering her lover route though, like I said? It's an extra route that they said would only appear starting from the second playthrough, which is very common in dating sim games. Maybe you never played dating sims? In dating sims, the term Conquer ≠ Defeat/Kill.
The witch can go out if she want to, especially if the deterrent (Elrise) is imprisoned. They said that the witch will teleport away if she knew that Elrise is closing in (that's why they were talking about exhausting her MP first), and the worst case scenario was the witch fooling them by lurking somewhere else and get her hands on Eterna's parents. Both involves her going out from her hiding spot. ...you know that her going out (doing her schemes or whatever) ≠ confronting Elrise upfront, right? There's nothing implying that the witch would refuse to go out even if Elrise got imprisoned, like you said.
...don't you realize that immediately resorting to violence and even using hostage just because the initial talk failed is bad? Not everybody possesses Talk no Jutsu, capable of changing other's mind in only one talk on the spot. Persuading someone normally takes time. Swaying her thinking gradually. Talk it out in multiple occasions. But no, the saintess said "I will take your words into consideration" and they immediately used force.
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The point is before Elrise, the witch would actually show up on the surface sometimes.
After Elrise, the possibility is just gone.
And apparently you decided everything the character said about the witch being extremely cowardly and playing hiki (you know the term?) just goes over your head?
Did you not consider that the part about the witch teleporting away was about teleporting away from whichever dungeon Elrise try to hunt her in? Nothing about it said she was going away from the surface.
Or that Elrise mentioned the witch's method of keeping contact with above is under their watch
https://mangadex.org/chapter/31625c1d-ddde-4fcc-93de-4651ac2d9e0a/2
The part about Eterna's parents/ other routes are just talking hypotheticals, not that the witch WILL do that, otherwise are you implying their talk on how to save Alexia was also in serious consideration despite Elrise immediately saying that requires Eterna dying thus no dice?
Do you seriously think Elrise could've been persuaded from doing this if they'd try more, for real?
Like, did you think the king only came up with the hostage plan on the spot? Or that they KNEW there's almost no way she'll change her mind and prepare the hostages beforehand (especially Stocco who's clearly in on the plan) because she's been doing this for a long time now?
"it's be much better than making the saintess their enemy"
Seems you forgot the whole part about them fearing she'd become their ultimate enemy if she kill the witch and become a witch herself.
EDIT: And probably the dumbest implication from your argument is the idea that the king will STILL keep Elrise under imprisonment even if the witch shows up (despite having established the witch will teleport away if she notice Elrise)
Like, where is this even suggested besides you pulling it out of your ass?
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But then the saintess got imprisoned and not allowed to confront the witch.
...and my explanations including the dating sims term apparently went over your head. What to consider? I knew that's what they meant. But the problem is that they don't know where she would teleport away to. Also there's something that said that she can go to the surface: her getting her hands on Eterna's parents. Because obviously they are not in dungeons.
But like she said, it's just a way to make the witch not act immediately. Which means that she will act eventually. It's just that they might know earlier.
It's called precaution because that possibility exist. And what are you talking about, it's obviously a different kind of talk to the whole saving Alexia thing.
We as the reader know that Elrise won't change her mind because we know about her suicidal plan. But they don't and couldn't be 100% sure about that. They don't know if the saintess has a secret plan. They should have talk it out more rather than making her their enemy on the spot.
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