Fukushuu o Koinegau Saikyou Yuusha wa, Yami no Chikara de Senmetsu Musou Suru - Ch. 140

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Wild plot guess to make this long detour worth it, appopriately themed:

This is all 4.5D Chess for Raoul to give Vicky false / edited memories of -
  1. You knew me since I was a kid, you even liked me enough to save me!
  2. We were was SUCH cute and innocent widdle beans, until The Bad People (and Gods) came.
  3. The Gods are the bad guys, maybe? I mean, they even tried to trick lil' Vick[y]...
  4. There's good people in this world, and we have to save them from the baddies! You used to know that back when you were adorable.
This is in service of getting her to sacrifice something willingly for him, so he can continue being The Edgemeister.
 
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You know what, at this point, I don't even care about whether he forgives her or not. Can we just get back to him killing that goddess?
 
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Wild plot guess to make this long detour worth it, appopriately themed:

This is all 4.5D Chess for Raoul to give Vicky false / edited memories of -
  1. You knew me since I was a kid, you even liked me enough to save me!
  2. We were was SUCH cute and innocent widdle beans, until The Bad People (and Gods) came.
  3. The Gods are the bad guys, maybe? I mean, they even tried to trick lil' Vick[y]...
  4. There's good people in this world, and we have to save them from the baddies! You used to know that back when you were adorable.
This is in service of getting her to sacrifice something willingly for him, so he can continue being The Edgemeister.
At this point, I'll take it, but at this point, it can go either way: real memories, fake ones; it's up to the writer
 
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Make of it what you will but the author actually stated in the afterword for volume 5 that they had this planned for Victoria since the beginning of when they stared writing this story
I don't think any author would ever admit to doing a bullshit retcon like this. Usually when you're going for a plot twist like that, you at least give small hints beforehand that, in this case, Victoria was being manipulated. Unless people found out those hints and I'm unaware of them, yeah, I'll make of what I will.
 
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Meanwhile reread chapter 1
There are some things that come up for this that make an interesting note. Her eyes look sleep deprived and exhausted, she does not remember Raul seemingly, and the constant quote “bless her highness the princess.”

There’s also the emphasis that both of them refer to each other as pawns and puppets of a stage play. Her nature is almost similar to that of Raul yet the dark aspect of his abilities were sealed until he died. She even notes her frustration at not being able to kill other people she deemed equivalent to a curse. Her obsession with Raul upon her second meeting was unnatural as well, though that could be said to be caused by the goddess of love.

One last note on this. When you look at aspects the goddess of war has similarities with Raul and the goddess of love has similarities with Victoria. The two are also interchangeable with their goals. Peace and love vs war and hatred.

The price will definitely lead towards her warped nature the question is what the nature of the price and why the gods were obsessed with her in particular.
 
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At this point I would have been a little more interested in this backstory if Victoria was done better in the beginning, show her to have more layers than a crazy yandere bitch who killed the guy she loved's sister, show hints that there was something more, not some surprise she was brainwashed bs that could have been done better,

Redeem her or don't, make her and Raoul fall in love, I don't give a rat's ass, just get back to killing that damn goddess.
 
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Wild plot guess to make this long detour worth it, appopriately themed:

This is all 4.5D Chess for Raoul to give Vicky false / edited memories of -
  1. You knew me since I was a kid, you even liked me enough to save me!
  2. We were was SUCH cute and innocent widdle beans, until The Bad People (and Gods) came.
  3. The Gods are the bad guys, maybe? I mean, they even tried to trick lil' Vick[y]...
  4. There's good people in this world, and we have to save them from the baddies! You used to know that back when you were adorable.
This is in service of getting her to sacrifice something willingly for him, so he can continue being The Edgemeister.
You might be onto something, I still can't really get over the fact that this "god" looks similar to one of the forms Raul took on. We'll see, at this point I just want to see what the fuck the author is cooking.
 
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This flashback is basically so we can get the gender swapped version of
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Now we just gotta wait till Victoria releases the good and not the evil. :kek:
 
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E onde eu neguei que ela fez isso o seu acéfalo?
Qual parte do "ela tem que pagar os crimes dela" você não entendeu seu analfabeto funcional?
Tu nasceu burro e analfabeto funcional ou teve que estudar?
Aprenda um pouco interpretação de texto antes de responder!!
Criança é dose viu!!
criança KKKKKKKKKKKK nasce pós 2000 e manda uma dessa
 
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And you're forgetting that they explicitly stated that if she hadn't already had such thoughts that the Goddess wouldn't have been able to take her over and do so.

In summary:
THIS FLASHBACK HAS BEEN GOING FOR TEN THOUSAND YEARS CAN WE MOVE THE FUCK ON PLEASE

I mean the goddess of love works under the concept of turning people’s feelings into their most extreme uncontrolled versions.

She definitely liked raoul before the goddess of love but the goddess twisted her feelings to lust.

Plus, the Saintess in the chapter this is revealed specifically whispers these things to her while she’s sedated to twist her affection to dominating raoul. She’s very much not guilty of anything there.
 
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I don't think any author would ever admit to doing a bullshit retcon like this. Usually when you're going for a plot twist like that, you at least give small hints beforehand that, in this case, Victoria was being manipulated. Unless people found out those hints and I'm unaware of them, yeah, I'll make of what I will.
There’s the Goddess of Love, Saintess and The King.
 
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Make of it what you will but the author actually stated in the afterword for volume 5 that they had this planned for Victoria since the beginning of when they stared writing this story
Why wait 140 chapters to say this then? people would not side with her after so long wtf is this bullshit writing?
 
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She got manipulated and tortured from childhood by her own father and an actual god. Kids don't get to choose who raises them or what they're taught is right. Someone groomed from birth isn't the same as an adult who had options and chose cruelty anyway. Monsters aren't born, they're made.
Yet again, not everyone can forgive a murderer because the have a sad past, would you forgive a person who killed your sister if he told you he was manipulated into doing so?

Even if some people would genuinely forgive, I would not be able to do so.
 
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The problem, at least for me, is that this is taking place at a time where the (current) love interest is being gangraped and impregnated. So I can't really be bothered to care about whether waifu-Hitler actually just wanted to be a hentai artist.
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"they vanished from this world forever" meaning she did remove them and they can't come back to their world.. so they are kinda booted out from there. so she didn't kill them but just removed them from the reality of theirs. so basically isekaied them away. is it better than Death or far worse?
I took that to mean that they got perma-delted, soul and all.
 

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