Fushi no Kami: Rebuilding Civilization Starts with a Village - Vol. 9 Ch. 40 - Turning Up the Heat

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The tech tree on page three was one of the best I've seen. They should add "petroleum distillation" before "internal combustion engine." And that's assuming the materials they need are available. Metal alloys means they need the right amounts of iron, nickel, chromium, aluminum, coal to make coke, crude oil, etc.

Once they figure out refractory bricks they should make a crucible furnace!
 
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The tech tree on page three was one of the best I've seen. They should add "petroleum distillation" before "internal combustion engine." And that's assuming the materials they need are available. Metal alloys means they need the right amounts of iron, nickel, chromium, aluminum, coal to make coke, crude oil, etc.

Once they figure out refractory bricks they should make a crucible furnace!
You can burn things other than gasoline, you know.
 
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You can burn things other than gasoline, you know.
You mean like Diesel, Kerosene, or jet fuel? Those are all distillates of petroleum. What non-petroleum fuel are you thinking of that could power an airplane? Wood? Coal? Ethanol?
 
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You mean like Diesel, Kerosene, or jet fuel? Those are all distillates of petroleum. What non-petroleum fuel are you thinking of that could power an airplane? Wood? Coal? Ethanol?
Says internal combustion engine, not jet engine, could be any of a number of other types and scales of engine and fuel. They could be popping popcorn and it would still be an internal combustion engine that doesn't rely on petroleum, not everything runs on a distillate of petrol.
 
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i've watched a lot of Primitive Technology videos about making firebricks so i think i know what to expect next
 
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Says internal combustion engine, not jet engine, could be any of a number of other types and scales of engine and fuel. They could be popping popcorn and it would still be an internal combustion engine that doesn't rely on petroleum, not everything runs on a distillate of petrol.
But they're explicitly working on building airplanes. An internal combustion engine spec'd for anything else is a straw man. And the best fuels with the highest energy outputs are petroleum distillates. Unless they go the route of "Other world material substitute."

I'll ask again- what fuel do you have in mind?
 
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But they're explicitly working on building airplanes. An internal combustion engine spec'd for anything else is a straw man. And the best fuels with the highest energy outputs are petroleum distillates. Unless they go the route of "Other world material substitute."

I'll ask again- what fuel do you have in mind?
I mean surely there'd be a bio-fuel alternative? If you can run a car on that shit, dont think a plane is too much of a stretch no?
 
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But they're explicitly working on building airplanes. An internal combustion engine spec'd for anything else is a straw man. And the best fuels with the highest energy outputs are petroleum distillates. Unless they go the route of "Other world material substitute."

I'll ask again- what fuel do you have in mind?
They aren't starting with jetliners though, a small single person plane could be run on just about anything, like vegetable oil, and that's assuming there isn't some monster alternative like salamander spit turning out to be kerosene, in a case similar to how the werewolves are sources of iron and steel.
 
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Thank you very much for your hard work, and I appreciate the small novel comparisons on the endpage as well.
 
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But they're explicitly working on building airplanes. An internal combustion engine spec'd for anything else is a straw man. And the best fuels with the highest energy outputs are petroleum distillates. Unless they go the route of "Other world material substitute."

I'll ask again- what fuel do you have in mind?
Vegetable oil is just fine for now.

The Wright Flyer managed with a 12 hp engine that weighed 180 lbs.

..but it will admittedly be easier for them to come up with another solution like something that burns more easily - but for proof of concept they could even use a steam tank (i.e. they have a steam engine with the actual fire and then just deliver steam to the plane engine for one-time use, much like shunting locomotives worked before electrification).
 

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