Game of Familia: Kazoku Senki - Vol. 3 Ch. 10 - Uncultured and Uncivilised

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@degenerateafro "But it turns out the other countries are all garbage at fighting outside of their own territory "

Nope. The one country is very good at fighting inside their border. You've blown that up into a totally different conclusion. Nothing has been said about the other countries at all, besides the implication that they're collectively a threat.

"The big issue doesn't appear to be how interesting or uninteresting the proposal was overall, the problem is the people of that world are stupid"

You should really be more careful. Accusing others of stupidity without making certain that you aren't just misreading things makes you look foolish.
 
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@Cruentus Okay then, please answer the following questions:
1. In what way have they shown that men are not able to link with spirits?
The inital explanation was flimsy at best and the MC has proven it to not be the case at all.

2. If every country is aware of the threat of the Mell, then why would they want to invade the only country that is defending against the Mell? Seems a bit pointless to take over the border country since you'll have to become the new guardian against the invasion. How long will it take you to transition? What resources does this land provide that isn't provided by your own country?

3. For the Daba specifically. The are close combat warriors who live in a country devoid of magic, thus their strength is tied to their location. Without the magic protection, they are still strong, but not strong enough to effectively invade a country that is currently fighting a war on two fronts (maybe more as you so helpfully pointed out). So if they manage to successfully invade Saifan, how long do they expect to hold onto that location? Between the Mell and the mysterious "other countries" that you alluded to how do they plan on making protecting themselves without the anti-magic of their own country and without the spirit links required to fight the Mell invasion on the border?

4. His promise with the rank 1 spirit kings. The only thing he promised them is to "show them something interesting". If that is the only thing that is needed to make a contact multiple rank 1 spirit kings, then why was no one else able to do so before this? Is no one in that world interesting? What types of promises were required for the rank 4 and lower spirits? Just the body part offering? What about the rank 2 spirits? What do you need to offer them? Since no one was able to do it before, I expect more of a hurdle to obtaining their power than "yeah you won't be bored".

If you have some reasonable responses to these then I will change my opinion. Until then I will stick with "the people of this world are stupid". The Daba (and any other invading country) are stupid for wanting to invade a land that is holding the border unless they already have an effective plan to hold that same border themselves. (this isn't like A Song of Ice and Fire / Game of Thrones where the white walkers are just a myth, it is clearly stated in this story that all of the other countries know about the Dead Mell). The king of Saifan is stupid for believing his thot wife. The people of Saifan are stupid for thinking that only women can give up body parts to merge with spirits. The rank 1 spirit kings are stupid for taking someone at face value and forming a contract based on "well at least you won't be bored".
 
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@degenerateafro I agree with all of your points except for the king being stupid for believing his thot wife. I mean, yes he is stupid if he actually believes it, but considering how obsessed he was with her, if he believed her, it would at least make sense (still stupid but make sense) just like how people would rather live in denial than face reality, or people who face traumatic incidents sometimes block out the memories. It is possible that the king doesn't fully believe her, but he realizes that it would be suicide, personally and as a country not to at least pretend to believe her. If he didn't go along with the excuse after the MC called a massive freaking meteor down on an army and wiped it out, he might have been next. Also it would look terrible for him as a king and for the country if he admitted that he was NTRd. It also makes sense to not piss off the MC because he could cause such problems with the country that others would invade again. So the end result of acting like he believes the wife, is the best decision regardless of if it is because he is stupid and doesn't believe her or whether he is just doing what is in his best interest.
 
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I have to agree with degenerateafro. I let it slide when we found out the way the MC formed contracts with the top tier spirits was to promise them a way to defeat their boredom. I moved on, "okay, whatever, cliche and weak, but whatever." What bothered me the most is MC was presented as an intelligent tactician, yet when we get to this arc MC never asked or thought to find out if there was any place in the world, or anything in this world that would be his natural weakness. Something against magic. He goes to learn about Daba from the Pig Traitor, I mean this dude is a traitor so why would you believe anything he has to say? Then finds out upon entering Daba that it has an anti-magic field? That did it for me. That was so forced by the author it was ridiculous. It made MC look stupid for letting the king, EVEN THE QUEEN, and Pig Traitor play him like that without so much as an attempt to find out further information on the kingdom you so arrogantly go to thinking all you'd have to do is yell "Presto Chango!" and you win.

Yes, I'm aware author may choose to pull some plot armor out of thin air. I've seen the posts about author's previous stories, this does not necessarily mean the author won't change up for this story and let MC magically, excuse the pun, fix the problem.

I also disagree with everyone wanting the sister to get raped. She's already learned her lesson, that much is obvious from the final few panels. That was obvious the moment the lizard guy thought to betray her. UNLESS author takes the approach of making her a stubborn optimist who believes their talk-no-jutsu or values when pushed on others will win everyone over like a typical shounen MC. Bad part is, she's not the typical shounen MC, she's the side character to the MC so her MC-superpower is null. Still, she's obviously learned her lesson and there's no need from a story perspective to go any further. People don't read and write stories to invoke every facet of the real world into them so bringing up "This is how the real world works" is moot for a fantasy story. The moment Sasae lost his arm it was apparent she learned her lesson. Your anger toward the character does not need to manipulate the story.

Still, I found myself wondering why these countries are fighting each other at all when they have a shared enemy? Why was their internal fighting in the country as well? That made no sense? Why would the country standing at the threshold against the world enemy not want to fortify their front line defense? That's so typical of some authors. Let's have political intrigue that wouldn't really make sense in a situation like this, but draaaaaammmaaa! I'm not saying there wouldn't be any opportunist, but the king is an idiot if he allows class warfare or whatever to overwhelm his duty to protect his land. Why has it survived this long and not been overrun if leadership is this incompetent?

MC is silly as well. He goes overboard to protect his mom/love interest, older sister/love interest, and younger sister/love interest. So far, he lets them each be fighters while he sells his soul to be the magician?

He doesn't just launch a meteor at Daba the moment they got out of line? What? Anti-magic field or not, before he knew of it, of course, he should've been able to stand on the outskirts and launch a meteor and the momentum smashes into the country. It would've taken them out or forced them to leave and face off against the kingdom's forces outside of their anti-magic protection. Yet, of course, how would he know to do this since he didn't get all the information on Daba. Which leads me back to my beef with this arc. He trusted the Pig Traitor, let the King dictate what needed to happen, and didn't even ask the Queen about where he was going? Yet, author wants us to believe MC is so clever?

If he manages to shoot magic through his severed arm because it was somehow taken with his sister then I'm done. That'd be too much dues ex machina, plot armor pull nonsense. It won't be clever. Just ridiculous. Cleverness would've been him going around and finding out how to destabilize the field or something, actually learning they had one before all this and maybe destroying the place or causing a war of attrition by using magic attacks just outside the field and cutting off trade or whatever with the Daba people. Something, anything that's not an out of thin air pull of silliness.
 
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the crappy writer gives some hints that the lizard b!tch will join the MC 's harem , sooner or later , so she chopped off his hand , to "take" his hand in marriage , she just understood the meaning a little too literally , lol .
 
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there's nothing worse than being a stupid woman because there's more to take advantage of compared to a stupid man :/
 
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Idk if I’ve hated an author more than I do atm. Not necessarily about the characters, the dark world, or the story, but that he’s made the story darker and worse to read by having the characters act OUT of character. Really disappointing and incredibly frustrating.
 
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Well,, she need a near death experience or something like this cause shes way too.... headstrong for her own good. But being raped is pretty inevitable at this point. She fucked up, the mission was a total disaster. Now to pay the consequences of a failed mission. I dont see how help can arrive at this point.. they are a long way out from ally territory. MC better be making an army of clay dolls or something otherwise shes just boned.

her "why me" kinda makes me face palm
 
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RETARDED AND FUCKING ILL IN THE BRAIN SHE GOT A FUCKING BRAIN TUM- sigh why the fuck is she this dumb ? what happen to the first introduction at the 1st chapter ? She's supposes to be better than his brother at everything right ? yea fuck no her iq is 0
 
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Man people who are way too nice get on my nerves "s-stop" the fuck is saying stop for going to do they clearly over power you they're not going to stop just because you said stop also sacrificing yourself for others is a stupid idea never do that it's stupid.
 
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Karma is a bitch but she deserves it she didn't heed the warning of his brother and soldiers and that's what she gets
 

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