Garan no Hime - Ch. 2 - Beyond the sea of trees

[MangaDex]

 

[shemper]

Thank you for your work!

 

[cryum]

The action is fairly hard to read, I can't get a sense of Hime's motions.

 

[Serenata]

The action is so erotic! LoL
As much as I love these two together, they really need one or two more people, they're too naive on their own and completely clueless of the outside.

 

[undeed]

the author definitely played too much Nier

 

[gearoi92]

Thank you for the translation! Man, i like it so far.

 

[Amylase]

I dig the art and the premise but I find Himes costume design kinda offputting. It goes beyond "sexy robot" to "silly." I guess its just not to my taste lol.

Thanks for translating. Looking forward to learning more about this world in the next chapter.

 

[Ichaivalrose]

I love the shoulderless shirt it's cute

Her design is definitely pretty off-putting though I agree w people

 

[Shtoops]

Even though Hime's design is too much, I'm still very interested in this. The art work is pretty gorgeous and there some really good composition and line work. I really like how the scene in the dark with the fire was done. The characters "glowing" outlines are really effective of communicating the atmosphere.

 

[Ichaivalrose]

Even though Hime's design is too much, I'm still very interested in this. The art work is pretty gorgeous and there some really good composition and line work. I really like how the scene in the dark with the fire was done. The characters "glowing" outlines are really effective of communicating the atmosphere.

Yeah literally everything besides her design is fucking incredible imo I'm so excited to keep reading

 

[Gilgamesh0024]

I, for one, don't get how it's "too much".
I quite like Hime's design.
This series is a 9/10 so far, its very good.

 

[Ichaivalrose]

I, for one, don't get how it's "too much".
I quite like Hime's design.
This series is a 9/10 so far, its very good.

its just really overly horny n male-gazey

theres a time n place for that kinda thing but if ur tryin to write a serious story it can be really jarring unless theres actually a good reason for it (ie kaine in nier , works really well there). Especially offputting for us girls i think since its just like oh wow girls being sexualized awesome i am not sick of this happening from every time i go outside

 

[Neomone]

its just really overly horny n male-gazey

Kinda funny because this is from a yuri magazine. Of course it's horny.

It's definitely gazey, and most straight men will certainly enjoy the sight, but I'm not sure the gaze of males is what was in mind when it was designed. The target audience of a yuri magazines is generally somewhere between neutral and slightly female leaning.

It's also the magazine that has "Justice for girls" as a slogan on it's covers. If you're picking these up as single chapters on Mangadex, you're not necessarily receiving them in the full context of the types of other material that they're packaged with. There's not much any of us can do about that, but it's worth being aware.

theres a time n place for that kinda thing but if ur tryin to write a serious story it can be really jarring unless theres actually a good reason for it (ie kaine in nier , works really well there). Especially offputting for us girls i think since its just like oh wow girls being sexualized awesome i am not sick of this happening from every time i go outside

I think you're reading more into this than is actually there. It sounds like the world is being rough for you at the moment. That sucks and it shouldn't be happening. But I'm not sure this is another example of society throwing out an over-sexualised pin-up girl because it sells to dudes.

The author's gender is unclear. I had a quick browse through their pixiv and twitter, but couldn't find anything one way or the other. So I wouldn't necessarily assume that this is some dude drawing a hot girl because that's what dudes wanna see. Personally, I'm assuming it's a woman until I find evidence to the contrary. Female mangaka are common.

There's also a difference between being sexualised and being sexy. Being sexy is fine. The human body is attractive. Looking at attractive people is enjoyable. Some women find a lot of comfort and power in being attractive on their own terms, or in seeing others do the same.

The problem in media often comes about when being an attractive set of body parts is the ONLY reason a character exists or is relevant, or they're made sexy despite there being good story reasons against it. That's not the case so far with Hime, although she's playing uncomfortably close to the Born Again Yesterday trope with her amnesia. We'll have to wait to see how that one turns out.

But she's not a prop, she's central to the story and the mystery that is being set up. Her thoughts and actions matter. Hime has by far the most physical power of any character, but is reliant on Isana for her knowledge of the world. The relationship between them so far seems to be mutually supportive rather than setting up the type of power dynamic that one might expect with the more troubling types of sexualised characters.

Men have not featured meaningfully in the story so far, nor has there been any real exploration of the fact that Hime is traditionally sexually attractive. I expect that both of these things will come up eventually - a literal mechanical woman who happens to be very sexy but is also an extremely powerful intelligent entity with her own thoughts and feelings is an incredible tool for commentary on society and culture if the author wanted to do that.

But you might want to keep in mind the source before you assume that Hime is an example of negative sexualisation. We're only two chapters in and I don't think the author has done anything so far that would suggest that they shouldn't be given the benefit of the doubt. Would it be fair to judge Yoko Taro and D.K.'s choices for the expression of Kaine's sexuality after playing for 20 minutes? Probably not.

Let's see if the author does something with Hime that's actually a problem before we start saying this isn't the time and place for a character like this.

 

[Gilgamesh0024]

Kinda funny because this is from a yuri magazine. Of course it's horny.

It's definitely gazey, and most straight men will certainly enjoy the sight, but I'm not sure the gaze of males is what was in mind when it was designed. The target audience of a yuri magazines is generally somewhere between neutral and slightly female leaning.

It's also the magazine that has "Justice for girls" as a slogan on it's covers. If you're picking these up as single chapters on Mangadex, you're not necessarily receiving them in the full context of the types of other material that they're packaged with. There's not much any of us can do about that, but it's worth being aware.



I think you're reading more into this than is actually there. It sounds like the world is being rough for you at the moment. That sucks and it shouldn't be happening. But I'm not sure this is another example of society throwing out an over-sexualised pin-up girl because it sells to dudes.

The author's gender is unclear. I had a quick browse through their pixiv and twitter, but couldn't find anything one way or the other. So I wouldn't necessarily assume that this is some dude drawing a hot girl because that's what dudes wanna see. Personally, I'm assuming it's a woman until I find evidence to the contrary. Female mangaka are common.

There's also a difference between being sexualised and being sexy. Being sexy is fine. The human body is attractive. Looking at attractive people is enjoyable. Some women find a lot of comfort and power in being attractive on their own terms, or in seeing others do the same.

The problem in media often comes about when being an attractive set of body parts is the ONLY reason a character exists or is relevant, or they're made sexy despite there being good story reasons against it. That's not the case so far with Hime, although she's playing uncomfortably close to the Born Again Yesterday trope with her amnesia. We'll have to wait to see how that one turns out.

But she's not a prop, she's central to the story and the mystery that is being set up. Her thoughts and actions matter. Hime has by far the most physical power of any character, but is reliant on Isana for her knowledge of the world. The relationship between them so far seems to be mutually supportive rather than setting up the type of power dynamic that one might expect with the more troubling types of sexualised characters.

Men have not featured meaningfully in the story so far, nor has there been any real exploration of the fact that Hime is traditionally sexually attractive. I expect that both of these things will come up eventually - a literal mechanical woman who happens to be very sexy but is also an extremely powerful intelligent entity with her own thoughts and feelings is an incredible tool for commentary on society and culture if the author wanted to do that.

But you might want to keep in mind the source before you assume that Hime is an example of negative sexualisation. We're only two chapters in and I don't think the author has done anything so far that would suggest that they shouldn't be given the benefit of the doubt. Would it be fair to judge Yoko Taro and D.K.'s choices for the expression of Kaine's sexuality after playing for 20 minutes? Probably not.

Let's see if the author does something with Hime that's actually a problem before we start saying this isn't the time and place for a character like this.

Hime hot, 'nuff said.

 

[Lustrist]

the background art and monotsuki are tight

 

[RiversofItaly]

Kinda funny because this is from a yuri magazine. Of course it's horny.

It's definitely gazey, and most straight men will certainly enjoy the sight, but I'm not sure the gaze of males is what was in mind when it was designed. The target audience of a yuri magazines is generally somewhere between neutral and slightly female leaning.

It's also the magazine that has "Justice for girls" as a slogan on it's covers. If you're picking these up as single chapters on Mangadex, you're not necessarily receiving them in the full context of the types of other material that they're packaged with. There's not much any of us can do about that, but it's worth being aware.



I think you're reading more into this than is actually there. It sounds like the world is being rough for you at the moment. That sucks and it shouldn't be happening. But I'm not sure this is another example of society throwing out an over-sexualised pin-up girl because it sells to dudes.

The author's gender is unclear. I had a quick browse through their pixiv and twitter, but couldn't find anything one way or the other. So I wouldn't necessarily assume that this is some dude drawing a hot girl because that's what dudes wanna see. Personally, I'm assuming it's a woman until I find evidence to the contrary. Female mangaka are common.

There's also a difference between being sexualised and being sexy. Being sexy is fine. The human body is attractive. Looking at attractive people is enjoyable. Some women find a lot of comfort and power in being attractive on their own terms, or in seeing others do the same.

The problem in media often comes about when being an attractive set of body parts is the ONLY reason a character exists or is relevant, or they're made sexy despite there being good story reasons against it. That's not the case so far with Hime, although she's playing uncomfortably close to the Born Again Yesterday trope with her amnesia. We'll have to wait to see how that one turns out.

But she's not a prop, she's central to the story and the mystery that is being set up. Her thoughts and actions matter. Hime has by far the most physical power of any character, but is reliant on Isana for her knowledge of the world. The relationship between them so far seems to be mutually supportive rather than setting up the type of power dynamic that one might expect with the more troubling types of sexualised characters.

Men have not featured meaningfully in the story so far, nor has there been any real exploration of the fact that Hime is traditionally sexually attractive. I expect that both of these things will come up eventually - a literal mechanical woman who happens to be very sexy but is also an extremely powerful intelligent entity with her own thoughts and feelings is an incredible tool for commentary on society and culture if the author wanted to do that.

But you might want to keep in mind the source before you assume that Hime is an example of negative sexualisation. We're only two chapters in and I don't think the author has done anything so far that would suggest that they shouldn't be given the benefit of the doubt. Would it be fair to judge Yoko Taro and D.K.'s choices for the expression of Kaine's sexuality after playing for 20 minutes? Probably not.

Let's see if the author does something with Hime that's actually a problem before we start saying this isn't the time and place for a character like this.

Idk how you can say she isn’t sexualized when she gets up-skirted by the camera several times. Like, there are ways to avoid that, so it must have been a deliberate choice

 

[Gilgamesh0024]

Idk how you can say she isn’t sexualized when she gets up-skirted by the camera several times. Like, there are ways to avoid that, so it must have been a deliberate choice

 

[Neomone]

Idk how you can say she isn’t sexualized when she gets up-skirted by the camera several times. Like, there are ways to avoid that, so it must have been a deliberate choice

Of course it is.

When the poster I replied to said "sexualisation" what it seemed they actually meant from the context of the rest of their post was "sexual objectification". Sexualisation isn't an inherently negative thing and literally just means something is made to look sexy. Sexual objectification is being cat called and propositioned on the street corner as if your only purpose is to serve the sexual desires of others and is unwelcome both in media and in real life.

Sure, Hime is made and presented to look sexy, but that's not actually a problem in a yuri story. On the contrary, the sexualisation is a feature in a format where the reader expects to see visually attractive women presented in ways that are attractive. Sexual objectification would potentially be a problem if it was there however, so that's what I responded to. Sorry if that was unclear.

If people aren't into the sexualisation then that's absolutely fine, but this is the wrong type of manga for them. The story is going to have T&A in it pretty regularly, so anyone with puritanical ideas that simply displaying flesh is wrong or harmful should probably just tap out now. It's like complaining that there's too much smut in a romance novel. I mean, people do that too but it's just silly.

 

[RiversofItaly]

Of course it is.

When the poster I replied to said "sexualisation" what it seemed they actually meant from the context of the rest of their post was "sexual objectification". Sexualisation isn't an inherently negative thing and literally just means something is made to look sexy. Sexual objectification is being cat called and propositioned on the street corner as if your only purpose is to serve the sexual desires of others and is unwelcome both in media and in real life.

Sure, Hime is made and presented to look sexy, but that's not actually a problem in a yuri story. On the contrary, the sexualisation is a feature in a format where the reader expects to see visually attractive women presented in ways that are attractive. Sexual objectification would potentially be a problem if it was there however, so that's what I responded to. Sorry if that was unclear.

If people aren't into the sexualisation then that's absolutely fine, but this is the wrong type of manga for them. The story is going to have T&A in it pretty regularly, so anyone with puritanical ideas that simply displaying flesh is wrong or harmful should probably just tap out now. It's like complaining that there's too much smut in a romance novel. I mean, people do that too but it's just silly.

If you don’t see the inherent problem with panty shots, that’s on you, that’s all I’m gonna say

 

[ixangel]

If you don’t see the inherent problem with panty shots, that’s on you, that’s all I’m gonna say

I will say this though: many of Comic Yuri-hime series is like that. That’s just the nature of romance series like these, every so often you’ll find sexualization being done.

And it’s not just yuri bring over-sexualized either. Yaoi is like that, too. Whether you continue to read this or not is up to you, but the first thing that I thought of when we picked this series up was, “Oh my god this really has the Nier vibe to it”, not “Oh my god, the toaste- I mean Hime is just so hot”. We just love the storyline, that’s all.