GATE - Jieitai Kanochi nite, Kaku Tatakaeri - Ch. 127

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When comment section is mostly about real life, something must be very wrong in the manga... and yes, this has been dragging for way too damn long. Just make Itami go full rambo and reascue Lelei already ffs.
 
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I haven't seen (translations of) court documents, but back in the day I watched a few documentaries that mentioned how a relevant authority wanted a higher embankment to be built, but TEPCO refused it. Furthermore, the documents mentioned rusted inoperable emergency manual valves because thorough emergency drills had been skipped, so the condition of the valves was never revealed. Diesel backup generators were at ground level, making them useful only in normal situations of power down, but useless if the plant got flooded.

In short, it was all because TEPCO wanted to save some yens, yet in the end this incident has most certainly cost a whole lot more money. Furthermore, how many of Japanese nuclear power plants are online today? Does TEPCO have any running now? I do know other companies were allowed to resume power production in some units, but TEPCO has been refused it due to lacking security/emergency measures (a big surprise). So, nobody was deemed guilty, yet years later TEPCO has still not been deemed worthy to run nuclear power plants. That makes you think a little bit.

Edit: Sorry about this off-topic talk, what comes to Gate.
TEPCO 2013 disaster was due to negligence? I thought the documentary was exaggerating because you know ... NETFLiX.
 
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When comment section is mostly about real life, something must be very wrong in the manga... and yes, this has been dragging for way too damn long. Just make Itami go full rambo and reascue Lelei already ffs.
Right? I just started this series about a week ago, and now caught up to here and started reading the comments… felt like I wandered into a Warthunder forum section… I’m half expecting someone to bring in military design docs as proof for an argument soon lol

Also Rory best girl
 
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Wtf I just realized the JSDF did exactly the mistakes the RDA did in Avatar. Fighting dragons in mountain ranges with Vietnam equipment 😂
 
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The original design basis tsunami height was 3.1 m for Daiichi based on assessment of the 1960 Chile tsunami and so the plant had been built about 10 metres above sea level with the seawater pumps 4 m above sea level. The Daini plant was built 13 metres above sea level. In 2002 the design basis was revised to 5.7 metres above, and the seawater pumps were sealed. In the event, tsunami heights coming ashore were about 15 metres, and the Daiichi turbine halls were under some 5 metres of seawater until levels subsided.

A report from the Japanese government's Earthquake Research Committee on earthquakes and tsunamis off the Pacific coastline of northeastern Japan in February 2011 was due for release in April, and might finally have brought about changes. The document includes analysis of a magnitude 8.3 earthquake that is known to have struck the region more than 1140 years ago, triggering enormous tsunamis that flooded vast areas of Miyagi and Fukushima prefectures.

In short, this was a once in a thousand, if not ten thousand, year tsunami. While it was known that there was a possibility of a worse situation, and they had been deliberating it, there was no impetus to do something immediately, because it was such a low chance of occuring. Then it happened. I don't think you can reasonably blame anyone for negligence on such a low possibility event occurring. The court was right to uphold the acquittal, as a tsunami of the size that hit the plant was reasonably unforeseeable and the executives could not be held negligent. It's hard, I know, but sometimes no one is to blame for something shitty that happens. Yes, higher seawalls and higher watertight measures could have stopped the damage, but there was no reason to think it necessary on a logical basis; greed doesn't even have to factor in, but it certainly would have supported the logical conclusion, because those costs would have been passed on to the public, too.


They're thinking of their soldiers not being able to make it back, and that scares them. It's not just a, "our base is being attacked, we gotta hope they can keep it safe" thing, it's an, "we could be stranded in this foreign world for the rest of our lives" thing.


They've had massive air superiority throughout the MONTHS of conflict, they didn't expect a sudden counterattack that popped up that closely to them, as they'd gotten arrogant; they acknowledged it was a very risky play to do this and went ahead with it anyways, thinking nothing could get them, and now they're paying for it. As for the helicopters, they look to be Huey Iroquois, which only have a max speed of 127 mph when fully laden; the wyverns can match that, I have little doubt. Many predator birds can exceed that drastically, and they're much smaller in form, so cannot generate as much thrust; they have to rely on thermals leading into dives to reach that speed.
This^ also don't forget that they have non-JSDF personnel on the helis, if they go too high those soldiers get air sick and freak out since they're not used to riding a machine, also they were going for a stealth approach overall. Going in a lower altitude in a canyon means they could get ambushed from above, but it also keeps them hidden physically and the sound is kept within the canyon walls. Their overall strategy so far has been to meet the resistance with high speed and high intensity attacks, shock and awe, type combat. They haven't seen much of the empire tactics being able to match their tech or strategies prior to this, especially when it came to non-infantry engagements. These counter strategies are new tactics being used by the empire, like when the SF forces were being routed from their extraction points over and over again. They also don't have satellite imagery, some UAVs, so it's not like they have constant surveillance of every square foot of the region either.
 
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If they abandon the campaign it will be another vietnam.

Are they so pressured in time to expose their back to their enemie?
 
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It's good that they're following orders.
The military is supposed to function like that, not everybody ignoring high-order commands just for their own pleasure.

But it's pointless dragging out, I guess.
At first it was cool seeing large battle panels again, but it's been going on like this for many chapters, I'm not even sure what's the manga about, lol.
 

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