Goblin Is Very Strong - Vol. 3 Ch. 24
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page 3 : my guess is that mimit got r@ped , she no longer seemed like herself ... she acted timid and scared ...
page 13 : The Dokodemo Door of Doraemon ? https://doraemon.fandom.com/wiki/Anywhere_Door .
page 13 : The Dokodemo Door of Doraemon ? https://doraemon.fandom.com/wiki/Anywhere_Door .
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@nyanpass My tone -> ^u^ (I'm bad at conveying tone online and I talk a lot naturally, just letting you know this isn't a rant)
It's okay, this person isn't a translator...yet. You definitely have to do your due diligence before you call yourself one, anything less would be disrespect to real translators. I have a sibling who studies Japanese in college, the homework he brings home is HARD.
You ever watch a Nintendo E3 show where the Japanese CEO is talking and an English speaker translates it on the spot into a microphone? That's translation. This here is not yet translation, it's a questionably-respectable attempt at trying to translate. His efforts are worth a certain amount of respect, but the moment he decides it is worth showing someone else as a "finished product" it is subject to a certain amount of scrutiny too. Measuring how much is an imperfect science, but I can definitely tell you that any 'disrespect' in this situation isn't necessarily a one-way street here.
It's incomplete, so it's only fair he or she receives incomplete levels of respect. You inadvertently disrespect those who have completed the journey of learning translation and perhaps even the work itself when you disallow yourself the right to give constructive criticism to the person's incomplete work under the assumption that you have no right to scrutinize. While criticism does come in many forms both harsh and kind, that same scrutiny has often led to the greatest improvements mankind has ever made. : )
So it isn't all bad, it's just that when you give someone an incomplete work you must be ready to accept that you may disappoint, anger, worry, frustrate or even simply put off some of your target audience. That goes for anything, not just translation.
It's okay, this person isn't a translator...yet. You definitely have to do your due diligence before you call yourself one, anything less would be disrespect to real translators. I have a sibling who studies Japanese in college, the homework he brings home is HARD.
You ever watch a Nintendo E3 show where the Japanese CEO is talking and an English speaker translates it on the spot into a microphone? That's translation. This here is not yet translation, it's a questionably-respectable attempt at trying to translate. His efforts are worth a certain amount of respect, but the moment he decides it is worth showing someone else as a "finished product" it is subject to a certain amount of scrutiny too. Measuring how much is an imperfect science, but I can definitely tell you that any 'disrespect' in this situation isn't necessarily a one-way street here.
It's incomplete, so it's only fair he or she receives incomplete levels of respect. You inadvertently disrespect those who have completed the journey of learning translation and perhaps even the work itself when you disallow yourself the right to give constructive criticism to the person's incomplete work under the assumption that you have no right to scrutinize. While criticism does come in many forms both harsh and kind, that same scrutiny has often led to the greatest improvements mankind has ever made. : )
So it isn't all bad, it's just that when you give someone an incomplete work you must be ready to accept that you may disappoint, anger, worry, frustrate or even simply put off some of your target audience. That goes for anything, not just translation.
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The translation of this chapter is very hard to understand, but I feel that it's not just the translator's fault. The text bubbles are arranged in a convoluted way so it takes a while to figure out who is saying what.
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No one in the world is capable of doing that to Mimit.
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No one in the world is capable of doing that to Mimit.
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@daywithoutgames @Onsokumaru There are a few who could, the demon lord for example and maybe the demons in ranks 1 - 3, but it's pretty clear none of them did it. I suspect she learned something about the way the whole world works that completely terrified her. Maybe something like learning they're all inside a game?
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@Onsokumaru Yeah, but kind of sad, too.
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Ouch, I feel really bad for anyone reading this... My estimate is that about a third of the text (in this chapter alone!) is translated incorrectly so good luck figuring out what it means.
For example: in the last page Bael's wishing Goblin-san, the Demon Lord and Mimit would all die and saying something like "being complacent with peace is stupid", which is somehow TLed to her wanting to protect them...? And wanting peace at all costs? Bael wants the Demon Lord to finish off conquering the world and is disillusioned by how he never finished what he started, so how would that make any sense?
For example: in the last page Bael's wishing Goblin-san, the Demon Lord and Mimit would all die and saying something like "being complacent with peace is stupid", which is somehow TLed to her wanting to protect them...? And wanting peace at all costs? Bael wants the Demon Lord to finish off conquering the world and is disillusioned by how he never finished what he started, so how would that make any sense?
The translation is really chipping away at the quality of this manga. The first 10 chapters or so were totally fine, since there were any significant plot development and lore. But when the manga started advancing the story the translation quality took a heavy hit. It has been quite a few chapters focused on plot that I struggled to follow.
The manga itself is rather engaging, so I found myself binge reading. But man, when I find it difficult to understand the story, I hardly want to continue reading anymore.
There is one problem I have with translation fuck ups like this. I know translation teams have a proof reader dedicated to checking the coherence of the text after translation. I also know that this translation was done by a beginner, but I still imagine the translator would read his own translated chapter after the work. Unless the translator was quite extreme pressure to release the chapters, I can't see myself uploading this quality of work.
The manga itself is rather engaging, so I found myself binge reading. But man, when I find it difficult to understand the story, I hardly want to continue reading anymore.
There is one problem I have with translation fuck ups like this. I know translation teams have a proof reader dedicated to checking the coherence of the text after translation. I also know that this translation was done by a beginner, but I still imagine the translator would read his own translated chapter after the work. Unless the translator was quite extreme pressure to release the chapters, I can't see myself uploading this quality of work.
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