GOLDEN MAN - Vol. 2 Ch. 11 - Speed (2)

[MangaDex]

 

[GhostGS1]

Such a yandere villian that he can tell fake from reals.

 

[ShadowHusky]

Spiderman 2 train fight, but the doctor is gay.

 

[Superpeanut]

Maaaaan this series is… Gold.

 

[xyzzy]

I’m indifferent to the woke stuff, but hate it when they are written in forcedfully

It’s always weird when someone says this because, like, whether a series has “forced” writing really just varies from reader to reader.

Like, there were some comments in Witch Hat Atelier chapters that complained when a black witch was added, when a gay couple was added, and people were complaining that it was “forced in”. Bro it’s a manga, Shirahama-sensei decided to add those characters in herself how the fuck can you say they’re forced in

The other complaints are more reasonable, but honestly they just tie into the whole issue of superhero cinematic universes just being these big unwieldy kudzu patches that devour everything. Which is oddly similar to how western cape comics are now, so kudos to getting that right.

 

[GhostGS1]

It’s always weird when someone says this because, like, whether a series has “forced” writing really just varies from reader to reader.

Bro who were you even quoting

 

[HelperHand]

Bro who were you even quoting

The quote is from the credit page, so someone from DarkReunion

 

[Black_Beat]

It’s always weird when someone says this because, like, whether a series has “forced” writing really just varies from reader to reader.

What I meant by "forced" is when a long running series writing/theme (suddenly) turns a certain way because "things are not like the past" or "This is acceptable now" or "Let's join in the woke bandwagon".

 

[goro-goro]

Spiderman 2 train fight, but the doctor is gay.

all of petter parker internship with doc oc before he become villain might spark some fanfic

 

[Techno97]

What I meant by "forced" is when a long running series writing/theme turn to a certain way because "things are not like the past" or "This is acceptable now" or "Let's join in the woke bandwagon".

I get what you are saying.

You are talking about the spiderman starred by tom holland movie series. Pretty much rewrite and the same goes to latest spiderman comic where Peter gets all kinds of shits from everyone, by yours truly, the writers.

 

[xyzzy]

What I meant by "forced" is when a long running series writing/theme turn to a certain way because "things are not like the past" or "This is acceptable now" or "Let's join in the woke bandwagon".

Putting aside the fact that you don’t really provide any examples, so I can’t really say what you consider “forcedfully added in”… that’s how fiction is? Superhero series have been around for decades now, switching from writer to writer. Is it that hard to believe that within that whole daisy train of creative talents, going down the line one writer decides to try something different?

I get what you are saying.

You are talking about the spiderman starred by tom holland movie series. Pretty much rewrite and the same goes to latest spiderman comic where Peter gets all kinds of shits from everyone, by yours truly, the writers.

That’s funny because that’s always been Peter Parker’s thing. Like, in 2007 Marvel execs set up the One More Day story arc, where Peter sold his marriage to the devil, because they couldn’t possibly comprehend a Peter Parker who is a responsible adult.

So again, why would people be upset if, like, he retired and passed his mantle onto Miles Morales or something?

 

[Black_Beat]

Putting aside the fact that you don’t really provide any examples, so I can’t really say what you consider “forcedfully added in”…

I can't really think of one super hero oriented right now. But if I have to mention any, I'd say the last season of Brooklyn 99.

switching from writer to writer.

Speaking of switching from writer to writer, I have an opinion on that. But I'll save it to put in another credit page.

To be honest, I don't think this is the right place for this (don't want to flood a chapter comment section with something unrelated). If you'd like to discuss/chat more, I'd love to do it on my discord server, DM me on discord, or use Mangadex forum conversation feature.

 

[omae_Is_You]

Woah there, careful @Black_Beat. Complaining about the woke stuff will invite the MangaDex: The Wokeguards, and they might put you on their hit list.

 

[Exhausted]

God, yes, please shut up about the wokes. This shit is always pathetic whenever it crops up.

 

[RanmaChaos]

Thanks for the chapter!

 

[Halex]

What I meant by "forced" is when a long running series writing/theme (suddenly) turns a certain way because "things are not like the past" or "This is acceptable now" or "Let's join in the woke bandwagon".

life changes it is not the 1930’s anymore. Things change or we are stuck with the exact same story’s being told over and over again.

People only says things should not change when it come To ‘woke’ stuff. Guess what many of the best plot points in these long running series came letter on.

Alfred raising Batman
The Flash’s mom being killed by the the Reverse Flash
Magneto surviving the Holocaust

These are major parts of these characters now but they were originally not part of them. Marvel is supposed to be “the world out side your window” and that world look very different now

 

[GhostGS1]

The quote is from the credit page, so someone from DarkReunion

Ah my bad. Never read those

 

[Hikineet]

Thanks for the chapter.

 

[Weoooo]

This is such a good superhero comic it even managed to bring in the tiresome and annoying DISCOURSE around superhero media. Powerful stuff. Fellas, is it woke that the rich benefactor of the whole golden man operation has darker skin than the others?

I really love this turn: we've seen this Golden man being different from the last Golden man as entirely positive, but this chapter we get another side. Dr. Scorpion points out that the old golden man would've just stopped the train already, and that he wouldn't have made the tactical error of trying to fight inside of it. It's the first accusation of the thing our Golden man feels but has never had anyone confront him with: he's got no fucking idea what he's doing.

 

[Amariithynar]

Putting aside the fact that you don’t really provide any examples, so I can’t really say what you consider “forcedfully added in”… that’s how fiction is? Superhero series have been around for decades now, switching from writer to writer. Is it that hard to believe that within that whole daisy train of creative talents, going down the line one writer decides to try something different?



That’s funny because that’s always been Peter Parker’s thing. Like, in 2007 Marvel execs set up the One More Day story arc, where Peter sold his marriage to the devil, because they couldn’t possibly comprehend a Peter Parker who is a responsible adult.

So again, why would people be upset if, like, he retired and passed his mantle onto Miles Morales or something?

See, One More Day is still infamous as being the worst written piece of garbage regarding Spiderman, ever, not just because of the content but because of the character misrepresentation- it was so bad that it got basically immediately retconned out of existence. So, that isn't really a defense, and if anything, provides support for what Black Beat is talking about.

Spiderverse, with Peter being taken out of the picture and Miles Morales taking up the mantle, is highly lauded exactly BECAUSE it did it right like that, having one hero hand off the cape to the next iteration, rather than trying to supplant the previously existing character, as was initially done with Miles before they figured things out.

life changes it is not the 1930’s anymore. Things change or we are stuck with the exact same story’s being told over and over again.

People only says things should not change when it come To ‘woke’ stuff. Guess what many of the best plot points in these long running series came letter on.

Alfred raising Batman
The Flash’s mom being killed by the the Reverse Flash
Magneto surviving the Holocaust

These are major parts of these characters now but they were originally not part of them. Marvel is supposed to be “the world out side your window” and that world look very different now

Alfred raising Batman and Magneto being a Holocaust survivor were both initially conceptually parts of the characters, though? Magneto was originally Roma, not Jewish, but they were rounded up by the Nazis, too, you know. Reverse Flash killing Flash's mom is canon to the DCU, Professor Zoom doing it is canon to the DC comics.

Also of note is that none of this came about because of "woke stuff". And stories from the 1930's retold are still very popular, while modern comics with "woke stuff"... aren't. I'll leave it at that.