Goodnight Punpun - Vol. 6 Ch. 59

[The5thSeraph]

@TheBigBadBone
The usual risky way: getting hold of the wrist holding the knife. There are a few ways to achieve that, but they're all pretty obvious, right?

And on a completely unrelated note, it does seem that the more comments I make anywhere on this site, the more notifications I end up getting over time. And not like on a lot of other sites where there is a specific linear order to everything, and comments on anything other than the last page will go ignored almost forever, it actually seems to happen quite frequently here. Hmm.
Oh, you don't need to pay attention to this paragraph. This was me just thinking out loud.

 

[alexthestupidn]

@The5thSeraph You ever take a stroll at the wrong part of town and got mugged? or at least come face to face with someone with a knife?

it would take a while until your brain could process the what's happening and you only have a short window of time to think of what to do, at that point you don't really think about anything else other than how to keep yourself (or someone else) safe and out of harm's way

so yeah wife pulls out knife, threaten to kill son and self, hubby panics, beat wife to stop doing it, he's not a mind reader, nobody sane would yank out a knife and say those horrible things for no reason, pretty legit if you ask me

 

[The5thSeraph]

@alexthestupidn
Not a knife specifically. I've been in a couple of pub-fights and got mobbed by council estate thugs and smacked over the head with a wooden post.

it would take a while until your brain could process the what's happening and you only have a short window of time to think of what to do, at that point you don't really think about anything else other than how to keep yourself (or someone else) safe and out of harm's way

That assumes they're immediately rushing you with it. If they're not then you have a moment to think and respond appropriately, as is the case here.

 

[alexthestupidn]

@The5thSeraph Well she was swinging a knife around and you don't have to be rushed at, someone just need to threaten your wellbeing (sorry if weird translation) to the point that your body moved on it's own, here we call it "temporary insanity" (can't find a better translation), since it's common for people to temporarily loses their ability to think clearly when threatened, you might be a bit different if you could disarm someone calmly at that situation, but it's more common than you think for people to make mistakes during this situation, in fact it is expected and understood to a point. To a point, as in it's usually not questioned unless it's an act of excessive self defence.

 

[The5thSeraph]

@alexthestupidn
Mistakes like smacking someone with a microwave?
Y'know, if you were in actual danger, I don't think you'd even have time to smack someone with a microwave. They ain't exactly lightweight.

Anyhow, I'm not sure if I've experienced what you're describing accurately or not, as in almost every single situation where I've been involved in violent conflicts, I was drunk. Also I totally lost most of them, but didn't particularly care because I was drunk so I could barely feel it. Actually I'm pretty sure things always get worse like that because when people start attacking me when I'm drunk, I tend to start laughing because I don't really feel it, and then they get pissed off because I'm laughing... and so on.
So yeah, even if I distinctly remember needing a few moments to get my thoughts together, that was pretty much the alcohol.

Still, I don't regard it as a reasonable nor appropriate response, NOR the sort of thing one could merely do reflexively. And I reckon if there was a free moment to think things through where nothing immediately pressing happened (which there would be because the woman in question was just being melodramatic), that there would be plenty of opportunities to disarm her.

 

[alexthestupidn]

@The5thSeraph They don't have to be in an immediate threat per se, just have to feel threatened enough (punpun mama swinging a knife wildly in the vicinity of punpun papa), i think in most cases if the full story were to be revealed to the court, the court would understand punpun papa's action, which implies that punpun papa actually refrained from telling the full story either from guilt, or to avoid social services getting involved.

"My mentally unstable wife was swinging a kitchen knife around and threatening to kill herself and our son, panicked, i knocked her out with the closest object to me at the time, a microwave"

I think that passes as a defense on most cases and personally i find punpun papa's action to be quite realistic and normal for most people, of course not everyone act, react, and think the same.

 

[The5thSeraph]

@alexthestupidn
I can't even imagine regarding a microwave oven as something to just pick up and weaponise even under the most extreme circumstances. I mean sure I CAN pick mine up and move it, with both hands, but besides the point where it needs to be moved to somewhere else, I subconsciously regard it as a static part of the room. I might as well try to weaponise the wardrobe... or the door... or the floor.
Maybe you don't. Who knows? It seems grossly unnatural to me though to bash someone over the head with a heavy kitchen appliance, even as a panic response.

 

[Loveybird]

Good grief, almost every adult Punpun knows has something to do with a teenager (which includes Punpun himself, eugh)

 

[CrisisMoon]

She creamed herself, page 4

 

[Core711]

That chapter with Punpun's father saying goodbye to Punpun made me almost cry, and now I find out it's all the mom's fault... God I hate this manga

 

[Kprojects]

Love to see Harumi back

 

[Crusher_Man]

god damn

 

[SoldierZoom]

And now I hate his mum even more also y is it eluding to another sexual relationship between a middle aged adult and a child

 

[camlakorns]

HOLY FUCK THIS WOMEN IS CRAZY I THOUGHT IT WAS THE DAD BUT IT WAS HER

 

[I-AM-a-hero]

@alexthestupidn
I can't even imagine regarding a microwave oven as something to just pick up and weaponise even under the most extreme circumstances. I mean sure I CAN pick mine up and move it, with both hands, but besides the point where it needs to be moved to somewhere else, I subconsciously regard it as a static part of the room. I might as well try to weaponise the wardrobe... or the door... or the floor.
Maybe you don't. Who knows? It seems grossly unnatural to me though to bash someone over the head with a heavy kitchen appliance, even as a panic response.

You are very very wrong. In that critical moment depicted in the chapter, Punpun's father faced an immediate threat where his wife, wielding a knife, was rapidly advancing towards him. His options were severely limited: attempting to reason with her was impractical as she was clearly not in a rational state, and time was of the essence. Under extreme stress, human decision-making can be impaired, further complicating his ability to navigate the situation calmly.
The physical environment also played a crucial role: with only glasses, a microwave, and pots at hand, the proximity between them meant any thrown object would impact quickly. In legal terms, the concept of self-defense applies here, where Punpun's father acted to protect himself and his son from imminent harm.
Applying Newton's second law of motion, Force equals Mass times Acceleration, underscores that in such close quarters, even a relatively small mass like a microwave could exert significant force upon impact. His decision to use the microwave as a means to deter the threat, rather than causing lethal harm, reflects an attempt to mitigate the immediate danger posed without escalating the situation further.
In essence, the circumstances forced Punpun's father into a split-second decision where legal principles of self-defense, the physics of force, and the urgency of the threat converged to necessitate a response aimed at immediate safety rather than idealized outcomes.

 

[I-AM-a-hero]

You are very very wrong. In that critical moment depicted in the chapter, Punpun's father faced an immediate threat where his wife, wielding a knife, was rapidly advancing towards him. His options were severely limited: attempting to reason with her was impractical as she was clearly not in a rational state, and time was of the essence. Under extreme stress, human decision-making can be impaired, further complicating his ability to navigate the situation calmly.
The physical environment also played a crucial role: with only glasses, a microwave, and pots at hand, the proximity between them meant any thrown object would impact quickly. In legal terms, the concept of self-defense applies here, where Punpun's father acted to protect himself and his son from imminent harm.
Applying Newton's second law of motion, Force equals Mass times Acceleration, underscores that in such close quarters, even a relatively small mass like a microwave could exert significant force upon impact. His decision to use the microwave as a means to deter the threat, rather than causing lethal harm, reflects an attempt to mitigate the immediate danger posed without escalating the situation further.
In essence, the circumstances forced Punpun's father into a split-second decision where legal principles of self-defense, the physics of force, and the urgency of the threat converged to necessitate a response aimed at immediate safety rather than idealized outcomes.

@The5thSeraph

 

[hurriquinne]

ㅤㅤ

 

[Amalgamation]

it’s crazy how it’s revealed that punpuns mom had a manic episode similar to the one she had recently. All the way at the beginning of the book. If you also look back at the first chapter you see how far the art style has come. Idk if the artist did this on purpose but at the beginning it looks like something a child would draw. Even down to how the lil cartoon birds interact with the world. Punpun and his family are stiff and they sit on chairs like fuckin lego figures. Now you even get shots showing off what the characters would be wearing if they weren’t cartoon birds

 

[Amalgamation]

bro wtf is up with punpuns family almost all of them want to do it with teenagers, the only cool one is the dad

You know what Freud said. Fetishes are often hereditary

 

[MasaGokeezhaze]

Holy shit so the father was the good guy the whole time (an alcoholic, but still)