Haite Kudasai, Takamine-san - Vol. 7 Ch. 44 - Shirota-kun's determination

[wilsonh]

Thanks for picking this up and for using the uncensored version! Fantastic bonus.

 

[MiguelH224]

Then don’t read it lol the mc is doing better then most other mc

No he's not, stop the bullshit

 

[MiguelH224]

MC, we all know you aren't gonna actually do anything, you're just gonna get beat up and then have someone else save you instead

 

[Xalphire]

I got caught off-guard by the nipples after being accustomed to the pesky light censors.

Dude same, don't really like the quality but no censor? I'm all for it.

 

[Xalphire]

...They're talking about the car, aren't they?

 

[Dorraj]

I got caught off-guard by the nipples after being accustomed to the pesky light censors.

Gotta go back and replace all the previous chapter with the blessed light-less versions!

 

[Dorraj]

Wow, what a coincidence that the group that's going to kidnap his friend goes to the same cafe as him, sits directly behinds him, doesn't order anything and is only there to speak about their plot loudly in public. Such great writing.

I'd love for you to write a story with no coincidences.

What an incredibly boring story that would be. Today, I went shopping. Nothing happened. I went home. The end. Amazing writing bro.

Coincidences are what drive stories. If there weren't coincidences in stories, then they wouldnt exist. Tons of plot points in amazing stories are based off of coincidences. Hell the whole point of this Manga is a coincidence. Why aren't you complaining how it's a coincidence that he just happened to catch her changing and thus becoming wrapped up with her? Such an asinine common complaint. Especially in a goddamn ecchi Manga.

 

[Callidus]

I'd love for you to write a story with no coincidences.

What an incredibly boring story that would be. Today, I went shopping. Nothing happened. I went home. The end. Amazing writing bro.

Coincidences are what drive stories. If there weren't coincidences in stories, then they wouldnt exist. Tons of plot points in amazing stories are based off of coincidences. Hell the whole point of this Manga is a coincidence. Why aren't you complaining how it's a coincidence that he just happened to catch her changing and thus becoming wrapped up with her? Such an asinine common complaint. Especially in a goddamn ecchi Manga.

Coincidences are not bad, which is why I explicitly stated why this coincidence in itself is a bad one. Considering you did not try to refute my actual issue with this plot point tells me that you agree with the premise of my complaint. In case it didn't get through in my original comment, it's lazy writing because the mangaka couldn't think of a way to get the MC to know his friend was kidnapped. It's dumb writing because, well, why would the kidnappers go out in public to loudly speak about their crime?

Now quit trying to start arguments about something that wasn't said.

 

[Dorraj]

Coincidences are not bad, which is why I explicitly stated why this coincidence in itself is a bad one. Considering you did not try to refute my actual issue with this plot point tells me that you agree with the premise of my complaint. In case it didn't get through in my original comment, it's lazy writing because the mangaka couldn't think of a way to get the MC to know his friend was kidnapped. It's dumb writing because, well, why would the kidnappers go out in public to loudly speak about their crime?

Now quit trying to start arguments about something that wasn't said.

"you didn't say what I wanted you to so you must agree with me"

Who is "trying to start arguments about something that wasn't said"..? Cause you literally just said I agreed with you when I did no such thing.

 

[Callidus]

"you didn't say what I wanted you to so you must agree with me"

Who is "trying to start arguments about something that wasn't said"..? Cause you literally just said I agreed with you when I did no such thing.

You are misquoting me just to push a narrative for the sake of an argument. That is honestly quite hilarious.

Gain some reading comprehension, please. This all could've been avoided if you were able to actually able to understand what it is that you are reading.

 

[Dorraj]

You are misquoting me just to push a narrative for the sake of an argument. That is honestly quite hilarious.

Gain some reading comprehension, please. This all could've been avoided if you were able to actually able to understand what it is that you are reading.

Man that's painfully ironic...

 

[Perchioz]

"you didn't say what I wanted you to so you must agree with me"

Who is "trying to start arguments about something that wasn't said"..? Cause you literally just said I agreed with you when I did no such thing.

...that's what you got from the comment you replied to? Like, taking out a single thing he said (misunderstanding it even, but let's pretend it's exactly as you understood for arguments's sake) and completely ignoring the main point?

You initially replied to the dude, who simply stated that this coincidence that happened in this chapter is lazy and bad writing and explained why he thinks so, going on a tangent about the use of coincidences in stories as a whole, something that was not brought up in the comment you replied to. Op replies pointing this out to you, and you cherry pick something from his comment just to have something to reply with or what?

 

[Dorraj]

...that's what you got from the comment you replied to? Like, taking out a single thing he said (misunderstanding it even, but let's pretend it's exactly as you understood for arguments's sake) and completely ignoring the main point?

You initially replied to the dude, who simply stated that this coincidence that happened in this chapter is lazy and bad writing and explained why he thinks so, going on a tangent about the use of coincidences in stories as a whole, something that was not brought up in the comment you replied to. Op replies pointing this out to you, and you cherry pick something from his comment just to have something to reply with or what?

He said that using a coincidence is bad writing. I explained that it isn't.

He replied saying that since I didn't "refute his issue" (which I did), that I must have agreed with him (which I didn't). So at that point, the conversation is over. Clearly the dude doesn't care what I'm saying, he just wants someone to disagree with. So I refuted by pointing out his error, to which he promptly ignored, again. If you're just gonna make up shit in order to make others agree with you, then you do not deserve proper conversation.

What?

 

[Callidus]

He said that using a coincidence is bad writing. I explained that it isn't.

He replied saying that since I didn't "refute his issue" (which I did), that I must have agreed with him (which I didn't). So at that point, the conversation is over. Clearly the dude doesn't care what I'm saying, he just wants someone to disagree with. So I refuted by pointing out his error, to which he promptly ignored, again. If you're just gonna make up shit in order to make others agree with you, then you do not deserve proper conversation.

What?

To quote you, "Man that's painfully ironic..."

 

[Dorraj]

To quote you, "Man that's painfully ironic..."

Correct. It is. How someone can accuse someone of "misquoting" when that's literally what they did in the first place.

 

[Perchioz]

He said that using a coincidence is bad writing. I explained that it isn't.

No he didn't? Did you even read what I wrote? Again, he said that this coincidence is bad, not that using coincidences in general is bad writing. He even reiterated this exact thing when replying back to you, "Coincidences are not bad, which is why I explicitly stated why this coincidence in itself is a bad one."

He replied saying that since I didn't "refute his issue" (which I did), that I must have agreed with him (which I didn't). So at that point, the conversation is over. Clearly the dude doesn't care what I'm saying, he just wants someone to disagree with. So I refuted by pointing out his error, to which he promptly ignored, again. If you're just gonna make up shit in order to make others agree with you, then you do not deserve proper conversation.

What?

No, he didn't say that. The reason that he said, and I quote: "Considering you did not try to refute my actual issue with this plot point tells me that you agree with the premise of my complaint.", was to point out how your reply (the one that starts with "I'd like for you to write a story without coincidences", just so that we're clear) to his initial comment does not dispute or even go in contrast at all with what he wrote, so you saying that was pointless. I agree it could've been worded better, but you're making a mountain out of a molehill here

 

[Dorraj]

No he didn't? Did you even read what I wrote? Again, he said that this coincidence is bad, not that using coincidences in general is bad writing. He even reiterated this exact thing when replying back to you, "Coincidences are not bad, which is why I explicitly stated why this coincidence in itself is a bad one."


No, he didn't say that. The reason that he said, and I quote: "Considering you did not try to refute my actual issue with this plot point tells me that you agree with the premise of my complaint.", was to point out how your reply (the one that starts with "I'd like for you to write a story without coincidences", just so that we're clear) to his initial comment does not dispute or even go in contrast at all with what he wrote, so you saying that was pointless. I agree it could've been worded better, but you're making a mountain out of a molehill here

I'm not making anything out of anything. I called the dude out for pointing out a coincidence that didn't need pointing out, cause there's nothing wrong with coincidences. That's it. They are the one who sat here and accused me of saying shit I didn't. I didn't agree with him, and once he said I did, the conversation ended. All that's been left here is you and him bitching about how I'm apparently the one making a big deal when, again, all I did was call him out.

The fuck is this?

 

[Perchioz]

I'm not making anything out of anything. I called the dude out for pointing out a coincidence that didn't need pointing out, cause there's nothing wrong with coincidences. That's it. They are the one who sat here and accused me of saying shit I didn't. I didn't agree with him, and once he said I did, the conversation ended. All that's been left here is you and him bitching about how I'm apparently the one making a big deal when, again, all I did was call him out.

The fuck is this?

And why did this coincidence not need pointing out? Because coincidences in stories in general aren't bad? That doesn't mean that they CAN'T be bad though. And here, in his (and also my) opinion, it is bad, and he explained why. If you disagree with him, challenge him on that statement (or don't if you don't care), but don't make up something he didn't say and then use it against him, that's called a strawman.

Like, what even are we talking about here? Do I seriously need to say that something not being inherently bad writing on its own can be bad with added context? Really?

 

[Dorraj]

And why did this coincidence not need pointing out? Because coincidences in stories in general aren't bad? That doesn't mean that they CAN'T be bad though. And here, in his (and also my) opinion, it is bad, and he explained why. If you disagree with him, challenge him on that statement (or don't if you don't care), but don't make up something he didn't say and then use it against him, that's called a strawman.

Like, what even are we talking about here? Do I seriously need to say that something not being inherently bad writing on its own can be bad with added context? Really?

Holy shit dude, why are you still going? I literally already told you both that the conversation ended ages ago.

 

[Dorraj]

I apologize to anyone who reads this pointless mess of comments in the future.