Hajime no Ippo - Ch. 1483 - The Mediators

[Remixman87]

This Ashita No Joe type story pattern is KILLING ME. Legit everyone gets close to being great and then fails. JUST let us have something great and happy for an arc please.

Azami "The GOAT" Riku managed to crash through the sorrow & drama, got to be World Champion, and bagged his girl. Still all the severe shit in his life happened a lot younger.

 

[goodknife]

 

[PJSmooth]

I just binged the beginning of this fight to now. Talk about having the rug pulled from under me. Poor Mashiba, he finally overcomes himself and it's too late.

Poor Kumi too. She finally looked to be coming around and has to see her brother debilitated like that. Some time out of the story will be good for her. Hopefully when she and Mashiba come back, she can at least acknowledge all the good boxing did for her bro.

 

[Nuggz]

Everyone says "they should break up".... But I don't remember them being OFFICIALLY together. But man, this chapter was dark, even the rain at the end didn't give us a good sign

 

[gotera981]

I think Mashiba will wake up and not retire maybe telling Kumi his true feelings about becoming champion and doing it for everyone that supports him. Maybe she understands and after a while, gives in to the absurdity knowing she'll never fully understand but will be there for him. Ippo feels a weight off him anf maybe Mashiba asks what's stopping him since he was able to replicate a world class boxers style and is more prepared than before to come back. Mashiba is the only one who could make him think like that since he often lacks any signs of care or praise. Cogs will start turning and after the Sendo KO, Martinez will look at him after the fight, fuelling him more. Sendo also tells Ippo its his turn after being rushed off to the hospital from fighting with Martinez's 100% (the only boxer to do so). Or who knows.

 

[AngelHQ]

Legit by statistics: 2 out of the 9 we have a connection too are doing somewhat well but we’ve spent 95% of the time with the 7 that aren’t. We’re going tens, thirties, almost hundreds of chapters following the slow mediocrity or downward spiral of our characters. Not to mention that when our guys lose, they go into the hospital, they get diagnoses of life-altering injuries, they have to reconsider what their life will be or even mean from that point on. This is not a good thing.

I'm thinking this is what the japanese audience may want. If ashita no joe is regarded as a the best for that tragic ending, then all of that pathos must be more of the same. If that makes sense.

 

[NeverAnother]

I'm thinking this is what the japanese audience may want. If ashita no joe is regarded as a the best for that tragic ending, then all of that pathos must be more of the same. If that makes sense.

You’d think the land of Shonen “We’re gonna make it with effort” would look for a bit of joy but I do see your point.

 

[AngelHQ]

You’d think the land of Shonen “We’re gonna make it with effort” would look for a bit of joy but I do see your point.

I mean, it's the land of shonen, true, but it's also the land of seinen. I don't actually know, but it wouldn't surprise me that the seinen audience is blackpilled like that.

 

[Progenitor12]

I think this fight teaches Ippo a big lesson. The driving factor in his retirement is that his body was on the verge of breaking down. Thanks to everyone around him, he was able to recognize that and stop before anything permanent happened. But his time as a second puts himself in Kamogawa's perspective. The reason Ippo gets so beat up in fights is, despite his good weaving, his answer to most problems is to charge in head first until he either catches a break or forces his way into his range by sheer guts. While this allowed him to bulldoze his opponents in the national stage, at the world stage it's a strategy that he not only wasn't wild enough to make his own, like Sendo, but one that was bound to implode on itself as he takes more and more hits.

After this, Ippo will probably have a larger focus on teaching the newbies proper defensive form, and come to as realization that he doesn't have a clear idea of what that looks like and how to execute it. This probably won't be the inciting incident that causes his return to the ring, but it's an important lesson he needs to learn before that can even be on the table

 

[NeverAnother]

I mean, it's the land of shonen, true, but it's also the land of seinen. I don't actually know, but it wouldn't surprise me that the seinen audience is blackpilled like that.

Thats the part that bothers me. Outside of the pills, there is a structure that supports a harsher “it’s going to fail” storyline. If that’s the goal then play to the audience, dont mix hopecore with doomcore without a plan. There is a cake that both sides think is being made but no one is really eating now.

 

[AngelHQ]

Thats the part that bothers me. Outside of the pills, there is a structure that supports a harsher “it’s going to fail” storyline. If that’s the goal then play to the audience, dont mix hopecore with doomcore without a plan. There is a cake that both sides think is being made but no one is really eating now.

Great point!

Sorry if I used the pilled meme wrongly here

 

[Dennis-aka-Denji]

I think currently, the story is gonna focus on Ippo's work as a teacher. Btw, this is just all my own theory and speculation, but i think all the current events are mainly focused on making Ippo a better Second and coach, rather than on returning him to the ring. The only fight which I imagine can do that, is Sendo vs Ricardo. Except that, Miyata moving to an upper weight class, and Ippo witnessing him butcher everyone there, could also perhaps motivate him (or maybe that wont happen). For a while though, I dont expect Ippo to have any thoughts about re-entering the ring at all, not until the Sendo Fight.

So we're talking what, 10 years?

 

[Kratoskinge]

So we're talking what, 10 years?

nah, i think the sendo fight is gonna be finished by maybe May at the earliest and September at the latest. I think Ippo will be making his return debut next year, somewhere in January-March, unless Morikawa Sensei takes a long vacation lol.

 

[0takuDragonSlayer]

Takamura is described as being a beast that vastly is different from the fighters we spend most of the time around in the story and Vorg only occasionally appears. Literally all of the emotional weight we have, those who we watch actively practice, see operate most frequently outside of the ring, get direct insight into the thoughts of are not achieving well, or when they get the chance to achieve, fail.
Legit by statistics: 2 out of the 9 we have a connection too are doing somewhat well but we’ve spent 95% of the time with the 7 that aren’t. We’re going tens, thirties, almost hundreds of chapters following the slow mediocrity or downward spiral of our characters. Not to mention that when our guys lose, they go into the hospital, they get diagnoses of life-altering injuries, they have to reconsider what their life will be or even mean from that point on. This is not a good thing.

THIS