Handyman Saitou in Another World - Vol. 1 Ch. 22.1 - Forgetting to Stop the Live Stream via the Magical Crystal Ball, the Hero Party Creates a Flood …

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This is a very grey moral situation, though we haven’t exactly seen what wrongs they have done to the monk, so I will withhold from making judgement until I have seen more evidence
 
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Monpui is clearly a voyeur that dislikes both of them and you fuckers think this is NTR?
 
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Wtf lol unexpecteded

it's not fking NTR.... Only ntr if mopui steals her from the hero
 
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Filming them like that without their knowledge and consent is disgusting and criminal. This is by far the most worst chapter of this manga.
 
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Lmao @ those calling this NTR. Lmao @ anyone who empathizes with some incompetent peabrain who succeeds through nepotism.
 
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These comments are almost as bad as the ones on HeroTube.. Monpui is a perv bastich.. Which while I can respect his grind and manipulations, still sucks. I doubt the hero and the idol are any better, but they shouldn't be shunned for getting together. Japan is weird like that. That's how we lost Haruhi Aya Hirano.
 
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no , what happened to my innocent manga ?

previously : the most naughty scene was an off-screen kiss between tanker girl and MC ( in chapter 14 : https://mangadex.org/chapter/559819/1 )

now : 2 under-age kids are having real $ex while millions of people are watching them .

i think the editor put a gun to the head of the mangaka and forced him/her to add more naughty scenes .

the witch is a b!tch , lol pun .

the prequel of this chapter , lol : https://mangadex.org/chapter/785512/1

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The LMS Blackpill is strong in this one...

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She is judging him based only on his looks. He is very competent as a healer, so your point is not valid.
 
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@Onsokumaru He's an average healer that got in through connections (that's a plot point - look it up). To boot his character is shit and he's ugly. That's more than enough reasons to dislike him.
 
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Dude, I binged it, I know. He WAS average, but by saving the hero's life so many times, he is not average any more.
They don't know about his character and it seems he used to be normal, but probably got bitter due to hate, common trope.
If you dislike someone cause they are ugly, you are shallow and evil.
 
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@Onsokumaru He's an average healer regardless how many times he supposedly saved the hero in your fantasies. The fact that he needed connections to get accepted more than supports this. There would have been many other priests with more talent and diligence that would have done better than him.

If you dislike someone cause they are ugly, you are shallow and evil.
Actually if you dislike what you find ugly, you're a normal human being. On the contrary, being attracted to something you find ugly is unnatural, and that doesn't only hold for humans mind you.

You can't convince others that an incompetent ugly ass deserves any kind of respect, or a free pass because he's ugly. Granted, you can fling shit at others for telling you the truth, that won't change reality however. If anything it is quite poetic that his outer appearance reflects his inner one.
 
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"Fantasies"?!? What is your problem? It's right there on page 5. And all three would have been dead by now, if he was so bad. I'm not saying he's super amazing, just to be clear, only average but with lots of experience now.

"Actually if you dislike what you find ugly, you're a normal human being."
Please don't generalize us all into your disgusting, narrow world view. Some of us can see inner beauty, thank you.

"ugly ass deserves any kind of respect, or a free pass because he's ugly"
I never said that. I'm saying he doesn't deserve automatic disrespect out of the box or an "expensive" pass just because he is ugly.

Mangalon is right, you do seem to be projecting something here. And when replying to him you seem way more triggered than him.
 
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@Onsokumaru

"Fantasies"?!? What is your problem? It's right there on page 5.
You seem to not realize that if Monpui was not there the hero would have had an actually competent healer that didn't get in through connections, and would not have been "on the verge of dying 86 times". Which to be sure, is a "conclusion" Monpui came to in order to brag (if it was not obvious), the hero didn't seem to be dying any time soon.

Actually if you dislike what you find ugly, you're a normal human being.
Please don't generalize us all into your disgusting, narrow world view.
There's nothing controversial about my statement, it's related to human biology:
There is also evidence that a preference for beautiful faces emerges early in infancy, and is probably innate, and that the rules by which attractiveness is established are similar across different genders and cultures.

I'm saying he doesn't deserve disrespect or an expensive pass just because he is ugly.
He deserves no respect whatsoever for being an ass and using his connections to get in the hero party and troll the members (if you're unaware what he did is illegal irl, and ethically wrong on several levels). Him being ugly is just poetic, since it reflects perfectly his inner self.

Mangalon is right, you do seem to be projecting something here. And when replying to him you seem way more triggered than him.
Oh sweet irony. You see what you want to see in others, do you?
 
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'You seem to not realize that if Monpui was not there the hero would have had an actually competent healer that didn't get in through connections, and would not have been "on the verge of dying 86 times"'
But I already cleared up that he is not amazing. Why can't you understand English? Of course a healer selected by merit would have been better than Monpui. I'm just saying that with all the experience he got, he improved. You should not act like he is the worst healer ever, since the hero IS still alive.

"There is also evidence that a preference for beautiful faces emerges early in infancy, and is probably innate, and that the rules by which attractiveness is established are similar across different genders and cultures."
I know about that, but we are not be slaves to our instincts.

"He deserves no respect whatsoever for being an ass and using his connections to get in the hero party and troll the members"
Monpui doesn't understand how his uncle was pulling the strings to get him elected (usual case in nepotism), just like the hero has no idea that pulling the sword was a sham and that the sorceress girl has no idea she got the job just because of her good looks. The manga is a critique of some societies' flaws. Like judging people based on their looks and nepotism. I'm not defending Monpui's nepotism. You don't seem to understand that the hero is not you, he doesn't know anything about Monpui's situation, only the readers know.
Monpui only trolled his team members after they were disrespectful to him because of his looks. Cause and effect.

"Oh sweet irony. You see what you want to see in others, do you?"
You don't seem to understand that word since that applies to you. I'm carefully rereading your comments and keeping my biases at bay. I work in mental health and just want to help. I don't want to see you bully people in the future just for their looks.
 
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@Onsokumaru
But I already cleared up that he is not amazing. Why can't you understand English?
It was a reply to a concern of yours. You had interpreted Monpui as serving a crucial role in the party and not being terrible, I simply clarified that this does not follow from the text. You're free to defend your claims by using the text. And no, page 5 with Monpui bragging, and half the page being sarcasm does not support your statement.

You should not act like he is the worst healer ever, since the hero IS still alive.
For all we know the hero is alive despite having Monpui. I never claimed he was the worst healer ever, that's a strawman. He's still depicted as fairly terrible, cowardly, unreliable, and having a shit personality. Him being ugly is just the cherry on top and was likely done intently by the author (it's a standard trope): https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BeautyEqualsGoodness

I know about that, but we are not be slaves to our instincts.
Another strawman: I never claimed that you need to be a slave to your instincts. Disliking what you find ugly is not being a slave to your instinct, it's a completely natural reaction. Whether you blatantly act unfairly towards people you find ugly is a different matter.

Monpui doesn't understand how his uncle was pulling the strings to get him elected (usual case in nepotism)
Supposing this is the case, you can walk away from a position if you deem that you are unfit for it, especially if there are better candidates to fill in that spot. Instead Monpui does the opposite: he's actively sabotaging his party members, either intentionally or not.

The manga is a critique of some societies' flaws. Like judging people based on their looks and nepotism.
I encourage you to provide an argument for this claim (using the text), as well as the rest of the statements that you made.

You don't seem to understand that word since that applies to you. I'm carefully rereading your comments and keeping my biases at bay. I work in mental health and just want to help. I don't want to see you bully people in the future just for their looks.
That's a nice mix of bigotry, jumping to conclusions, and red herringing. I am not even sure where to start, but since the burden of proof is on you regarding your claims, I can just as easily dismiss those until you provide satisfactory argumentation. To put it simply: you keep making statements without much to back those up instead relying on logical fallacies. There's only so much patience one can have.
 

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