Hazure Waku no "Joutai Ijou Skill" de Saikyou ni Natta Ore ga Subete o Juurin Suru made - Vol. 1 Ch. 1 - Goddess Announcing The Summon

[kcSaya]

It's arifureta but more edgy, wow

 

[Razen]

So I'm kinda exited to see how things will work out for him. And not harem this time please?!

 

[CountryMage]

@Flavor25 @shyevsa I get the feeling the barnacles on its face were already a status effect, so maybe its resistance was compromised to begin with.

 

[Lament]

was pretty edgy until he decided his revenge would be a "good hard punch".

that punch better be on saitama levels

 

[Sep10trion]

Should fill my edgy trash void now that dungeon seeker is done. Art is much better here, too.
Also, does anyone know the story of the hero who straight up killed the goddess who summoned him? Do t think it had a manga yet..

 

[Laxius]

- Talk about edgy, but loving the MC already. Lmao, what a godly middle finger.

 

[bladestorm91]

Hopefully, HOPEFULLY this time the story doesn't devolve into shit after he gets out of the dungeon(?) like Arifureta. The biggest problem with the latter was the bland two-dimensional side characters on top of the MC becoming a passive-aggressive tsundere instead of having the revenge driven passion he had in the dungeon.

 

[ThunderaMaou]

Goddess slave please?

 

[Izaiyah]

For Myself, being the edgy little shit that I am, manga like this are right up my alley. Although I feel like this chapter could have been a lot different. His abilities seem way too off the charts for him being E rank. The author could have at least been creative with the MCs abilities by making them seem underwhelming (Author could have made Abilities in the world have "skill trees" with the MCs abilities being the most basic level or the possibility to evolve for example). I believe instead of that minotaur scene, something like a CH. 5 'Arifureta Shokugyou de Sekai Saikyou' would have been better. This would make the character seem to have a lot more drive and willpower to survive, rather than a lvl. 300 minotaur get tbagged on by a lvl. 1 poison and paralysis skill. At least make it seem liked the MC fought the minotaur in a life-threatening manner. So far i am going to have to see more material to make a good judgement on this manga, but if this manga makes a 180 and turns it into a overused commonplace isekai im going to drop it

 

[bladestorm91]

I think I should comment on this as well, but I think we are all spoiled by games thinking that monsters should intrinsically have status effect resistances when it really doesn't make sense in real life, why would dungeon monsters have such resistances? It's very possible that there are no status effect monsters in that dungeon, therefore they didn't develop resistances to them if they even could. The right skills can kill even enemies with over inflated stats, I mean yeah it's a cheap way for the story to give levels to the MC, but there's nothing logically wrong going on here.

 

[Reikou]

Even for an isekai this chapter was extremely dumb and cliche.

 

[mommunism]

@kcSaya Eh, Arifureta is edgier than this, it just takes longer to ramp up. This is starting off really edgy and seems like it's going to cool off fast (like Shield Hero / Nidome no Yuusha). They're both pretty fucking cringe, but this one is just standard outcast shit so far (i.e. it's not the MC losing his arm and drinking blood to survive).

 

[Izaiyah]

@bladestorm91 In response to ur comment. If the MC is E-ranked and has E-ranked skills wouldnt that mean abilities such as poison and paralysis would be common. If we take the goddess' belief that he was useless wouldnt that make his abilities useless or at least common place, and in real life there are plenty of organisms that have resistances (maybe not absolute resistances though) or many organisms develop tolerance against such things. So why would a lvl. 300 minotaur (seems to be really high-level) have no resistances. Im curious as to what ur response will be. I will say this though, theres plenty of bullshit reasons (not pertaining to logic) the author could use to justify how he defeated it though

 

[Vincentius]

It's not unusual for enemies in games to have weird weaknesses; hell, some games have bosses that are completely immune to basically everything but an attack to their weak point or from some obscure element. That said, minotaurs in most stories are typically on the more unintelligent side of things and are thus incredibly weak to mental spells, which a paralyzation spell would definitely be (if you wanted it to be efficient, anyway; you could have it lock up the muscles, but it's far simpler to just prevent any signals to the limbs from leaving the brain).

As for why the goddess deemed him worthless despite him being a solid debuffer, it's probably because she's an incredibly vain piece of shit and debuffs don't fit her "heroic aesthetic". She probably wants the knight in shining armor, the majestic wizard, or the dashing rogue; not someone who, from her point of view, just sits on the sidelines contributing little.

 

[Sep10trion]

@bladestorm91
That’s pretty much because Yue and the harem rode his dick so much that it split his attention. He still had it in for the ‘gods’ and idiot hero, but once his party started growing with those whose beliefs didn’t necessarily align with his, he mellowed. Every now and then we’d get something like a pile-bunker up the ass of a dragon, but it only added to the harem.

As for high level monsters falling to level 1 skills...I think he should have had a trap/land hazard skill instead of poison/paralysis. I’ve seen high level monsters fall off cliffs, stand in poison bogs, get roasted in lava, die from chip damage from arrow traps, etc. It would also force the MC to be more conniving than confrontational, and become almost solipsistic. However, the well-endowed elf means we’re probably getting a love interest. Hopefully it’s much later, but doubtful.

 

[bladestorm91]

@Izaiyah Because it's possible that dungeon monsters are created by the dungeon and have never met any status effect monsters to give them resistances to such things. Normal in the wild monsters meanwhile might have developed such resistances through generations and status effect skills are useless against them at only level 1, that's why the Goddess considered him useless. As for why nobody tried to use status effects on dungeon monsters? Perhaps preconceived notions that these skills are useless against monsters and they didn't even try.

That's only one explanation, another can be that him being a hero or an otherworlder is giving the skills a massive boost, what is poison or paralasys to the MC and what is it to an isekai native? Maybe depending on the image and/or idea strengthens the skills massively.

I'm giving the author give the benefit of the doubt here, but he could just as well be lazy and an idiot. I'm just more optimistic and assume that the author thought things through for why these status effect skills worked on a very high leveled monster.

 

[Blabladodo]

@bladestorm91
Status effect resistances do kind of exist IRL, look at the NKR genes for example, human only have 15 of them, rat have 45 of them and are much more resistant to diseases as a result.
Another example would be capsaicin, it's technically toxic but it doesn't stop some people from eating it and even enjoying the pain it cause.

 

[bladestorm91]

@Blabladodo
Yes, but I'm running on the assumption that dungeon monsters are created here and don't have such genes because things like this are developed through the generations from interacting with such status effects.

 

[addictive]

Oy yeah another interesting series

 

[kaeldy]

I tried this before challenging a monster whit poison and just dodging the heck of it cause most games anyways doesn't let you perma stun bosses... I won but took so damn long