Hige wo Soru. Soshite Joshikousei wo Hirou. - Vol. 13 Ch. 67 - Goodbye. Until next time.

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I know alot of people complained about how sayu didn't really get together with yoshida but I felt like it rang true to his character ig, however good or bad u think it may be. Yes I think a quiet ending like this felt right and it was a enjoyable ride.
 
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Finally the suffering is over. Thank you scanlators for staying and working till the end.
I can't believe I stayed till the ending.

I still prefer boss or kouhai ending. As someone who have been working in real world, if I relate myself to Yoshida's life, I would never dare to pick Sayu. No matter how far the author made Sayu growing up, she is still a kid. Yoshida should never rely on anything Sayu did despite how lonely he is. I don't know why people hate Gotou-san because Gotou-san is just a normal high-achieving woman that you can meet in every office. Kouhai is the sanest and normal person here so she also deserved to win. If it is true that the author originally pick Gotou-san ending, then that is realistic.
At the end, by having Sayu ending, I can unrelate myself and forget about this manga once and for all.
What a tiring ride.
from what i've seen looking around it seems the other way around, the sayu ending is the main plan, the gatou ending is mostly a side story that the author wrote because he wanted to tell her story and even admitted that it wouldn't fit well. People are still arguing whether its canon but from the afterwords its easy to just say its a stand alone/spinoff written after the fact because the author wanted to conclude each character since the characters are supposedly heavily OOC
 
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Oh wait, now I am confused.

I thought they meant that the shitty LN ending was cut out of the manga because of the editor.

Did I understood wrong? And it was that the shitty LN ending happened BECAUSE of the editor?
the shitty ending is in a spinoff side story that people argue if its even canon where characters are heavily OOC. its the equivalent of harry potter's cursed child being considered canon. just pretend it doesn't exist because it doesn't exist
 
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The common thread I've seen between Romance and Battle Manga is the fanbases are 100% willing to put their own crappy agendas over the characters' and author's desires. Sometimes, authors NEED to be stopped, obviously (Domestic Girlfriend intensifies), but, everyone acting like the editor was right in stopping the author's vision here is a cad.

God forbid you meet someone when they're a teenager, and they fall in love with you and get with you later.
The funniest thing about the bitchy rich mother in this series is that those are the only people that get away with creepy age gaps: shitty rich people. If it's a hardworking office dude, who falls in love with someone he helped without taking advantage of whatsoever who is younger than him, concern trolls, who will always look the other way IRL, come out of the woodwork like termites.

Growing up, I was often watched by our neighbors who we called "Aunt and Uncle". They loved each other dearly, and he was about 2 decades older than her. Dude served in WW2 (on the good side), and the gooners on Mangadex/other forums will tell you it's a gross relationship, when the dude was the most stalwart person I've met in my life, and good to everyone. He made me a Scooby Doo toy for my birthday once, lol, super chill guy.

Consensual/loving age gap relationships are normal, read history instead of reeeeeeing if you disagree. Going after young people is gross. God forbid geezers could learn the damn difference. Biggest reason I stopped desiring to be a writer is because editors/publishers have no respect for art and pretend to care about ethics like gigantic hoes.

TLDR: I wish these gooners would take their fake ethics out of manga, because they've fucked up real life enough, OI
yeah thats my point..... and u know what... I prefere a fuxked up manga story, if it was the authors vision,.then something that was forced by the editor idk.... we already have enough marketable things and AI stories will start to do that already.....

Something that the author just wanted to do for the sake of it is what his soul is about... Im more about that idk.
 
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the shitty ending is in a spinoff side story that people argue if its even canon where characters are heavily OOC. its the equivalent of harry potter's cursed child being considered canon. just pretend it doesn't exist because it doesn't exist
Parently the author considers it Canon.... his LN notes with something like "I had long discussions with my editor and I couldnt decide on the ending for a long time, but then we did this and I think maybe Im ok with this"..... and more or less thats all the official thing he said about it ... so yeah it sux, its canon.
 
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Loved it. The subplot's frayed a bit but as a story about an adult giving a vulnerable teen the help she needs despite societal norms, and in turn have his life given color, it managed to convey the complex and conflicting feelings that the characters feel.
In regards to Yoshida and Sayu's relationship, they managed to show deep care for each other even if romance was not on the table. I almost want to say it's filial but not quite.

And I heard Gotou wins in the end so it's a win for us boobs men :win:
 
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Parently the author considers it Canon.... his LN notes with something like "I had long discussions with my editor and I couldnt decide on the ending for a long time, but then we did this and I think maybe Im ok with this"..... and more or less thats all the official thing he said about it ... so yeah it sux, its canon.

"It was a strange feeling, and despite many, many long meetings with the editors, we couldn't quite pin down how this story would end. I often found myself thinking, "Is this story really interesting?" with a sense of unease. However, now I think it was for the best.

Just like in Volume 5 of the main story, Yoshida and Sayu's story has come to an end. In the side story of Mishima, her love story has also concluded. I wanted to give Yoshida and Gotou's love story a proper resolution. For that, prioritizing whether this was their conclusion was more important than whether it made for an interesting story. And strangely enough, by delving into this aspect, I feel like I found an interesting story.

Perhaps this will be the last time I write about Yoshida, but... even now, I still think he's an annoying, detestable person, and I can't relate to him. However, even so, after various encounters and through future encounters, I hope he continues to carve out his own path in life."

the aftermath makes it seem like he's still not really sure and just wrote it for the sake of writing it. I don't think most people would consider it canon given how OOC it makes most of the characters. and how he said "it was for the best" along with just like in volume 5 has come to an end makes it seem closer to an spinoff rather then an epilogue.

Don't think anyone should really take it too seriously if they don't want to. the books themselves are listed as sidestory/spinoffs to begin with.
 
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"It was a strange feeling, and despite many, many long meetings with the editors, we couldn't quite pin down how this story would end. I often found myself thinking, "Is this story really interesting?" with a sense of unease. However, now I think it was for the best.

Just like in Volume 5 of the main story, Yoshida and Sayu's story has come to an end. In the side story of Mishima, her love story has also concluded. I wanted to give Yoshida and Gotou's love story a proper resolution. For that, prioritizing whether this was their conclusion was more important than whether it made for an interesting story. And strangely enough, by delving into this aspect, I feel like I found an interesting story.

Perhaps this will be the last time I write about Yoshida, but... even now, I still think he's an annoying, detestable person, and I can't relate to him. However, even so, after various encounters and through future encounters, I hope he continues to carve out his own path in life."

the aftermath makes it seem like he's still not really sure and just wrote it for the sake of writing it. I don't think most people would consider it canon given how OOC it makes most of the characters. and how he said "it was for the best" along with just like in volume 5 has come to an end makes it seem closer to an spinoff rather then an epilogue.

Don't think anyone should really take it too seriously if they don't want to. the books themselves are listed as sidestory/spinoffs to begin with.

Idk... seeing the raw notes just feels like he is fine with it and even if it is writen as side stories, still considered Canon.
Well it is what it is. He will never come back to the story anyway aparently, not like it matters now.
 
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I don't know why people hate Gotou-san because Gotou-san is just a normal high-achieving woman that you can meet in every office.
Didn't she reject the MC's confession at the beginning of the story and later reveal that she actually likes him back, but rejected him just to savor the moment a bit more or something stupid like that?
 
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Didn't she reject the MC's confession at the beginning of the story and later reveal that she actually likes him back, but rejected him just to savor the moment a bit more or something stupid like that?
Well yeah, just as they said:
just a normal high-achieving woman that you can meet in every office.
 
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Not gonna lie, I enjoyed the idea of the story where a rational, sane grown-up person would take proper care of a youngster. The fact that there are still decent human beings out there willingly helping those who have no place to go home to (more so when it comes to kids/youngsters). Still laughed my ass off reading comments where people would just ignore kids because they’re afraid of being considered a pedophile.

Man, you have no idea how much I was hoping for this to be that. In the end the only decent things were that he cared for her and he didn't prey upon her, felt like. So much wrong with his head.
 
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I feel like I wouldn't mind a mini series where they just catch up - they don't have to get into a relationship but some post-series closure would be nice
 
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Ending ruined it. Would've been a great story about a child growing up too fast and the guy who helped her get back down to earth, instead it became a grooming story
 

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