Honzuki no Gekokujou: Shisho ni Naru Tame ni wa Shudan o Erandeiraremasen—Dai 2-bu: Hon no Tamenara Miko ni Naru! - Vol. 13 Ch. 62 - My future self

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Just in case, the context is that in the original Gundam, Char's Zaku is red and is 3 times faster than a regular zaku, resulting in the always popular meme of "painting something red makes it 3 times faster" in a lot of jp media and social media
I thought that it was a Warhammer 40k reference. As some Ork once said - "DA RED WUNZ GO FASTA!!!"
 
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I’ve read the whole LN and its appendix, and this part kinda has the weakest reasoning in the entire novel in my opinion.

Like, yes, he acquired a single individual with high noble’s mana, a whole new industry, and otherworldly knowledge, but he would need to sacrifice his mother’s entire faction which holds is entire duchy together, I’m not sure it’s a sound decision if I were him.
The thing with factions within nobility/royalty is that they can be beneficial or detrimental.
If it didn't become painfully obvious, his mother giving her brother literally a blatant "free pass" to bypass his authority shows that veronica and her faction are detrimental to his authority. (if she did it this once in such a blatant way as to involve foreign nobility, then she has done so before).

As such by allowing her brother to not only break the "law" but involve foreign nobles, she has "twisted his arm",so, he can :
a) Do nothing to her and in extension his uncle and possibly the foreign noble (then punish Myne and everyone that protected her), and show everyone who wears the "big pants" in the dutchy, and whose word carries weight.

b) He can only punish his uncle and the foreign noble, that will again show that the one who is in control of the duchy is his mother, and all he can do is react to her whims, when and if he becomes aware of them.(and have the sentence of the uncle will be overruled by his mother if she's left alone)

c) Punish his mother along with is uncle and foreign noble, and use this event as a very valid excuse to prevent her faction from "calling foul" and the punishment unjust.

In my opinion this event leaves him with no other recourse other than to use this event to take her out of the political landscape.

Will her faction's nobles be happy?
No.
Can they react without them also be branded traitors to the duchy?
No, they can't.

So, the only recourse Veronica's faction nobles have (sans an insurrection and civil war), is to put their head down and pretend they didn't knew about Veronica's "indulgences" to bypass the duchy's laws.
 
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I thought that it was a Warhammer 40k reference. As some Ork once said - "DA RED WUNZ GO FASTA!!!"
There's actually a reason why red is the color of leaders in various sentai shows or other shounen things, it's a Japanese thing too!

Though, heh, knowing what I know about the future of this series...
 
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SAVOR THIS CHAPTER!!, the consequences were MASSIVE, but at this point in the manga we barely knew what was really happening and the implications of him doing everything he did for the sake of Myne, Ferdinand and ultimately Ehrenfest.

This is one of the best manga i have ever read, by far.
 
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In my opinion this event leaves him with no other recourse other than to use this event to take her out of the political landscape.
Like, if it were other nobles I’d have no doubt they’d pull the move without a second thought, but it’s Sylvester.

He’s characterized by his doting mother, begrudging sister, and he only became motivated to be a better person just to woo his crush. We know he’s a decent person, and he knows when to act as a proper aub when needed. And likely because of the last one that made him do it. It doesn’t seem like his wife nudged him on this matter either.

Still, I just find it hard for me to believe that he had it in him. That Sylvester the Aub would overcome Sylvester the person and do it.
 
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I wonder if Sylvester already wanted to punish his mother if he is fine doing it just because of Myne. If yes, I wonder why.
there’s a lot to it but this chapter we saw him say that his mother had been coddling the high bishop, who had been a major headache for Ferdinand for a LONG time.


also, for those wondering about Rosemary the 3rd wife
she was a mednoble who married a very important archnoble so her family went mad with power and started acting like archnobles. This ticked off the 2nd wife who started bullying her, and then when Karstedt started supporting her, the first wife had to step in and back the 2nd wife (despite them being from opposing factions) to keep the family balanced. And now the first wife will be worried that bringing in the supposed daughter of the 3rd wife will cause more chaos
 
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Personally, I prefer Rozemyne. Cuz Z make her sound stronger.
I also think the "Z" is better.
I recall reading that many names in the series are made-up words based on German.
And Rozemyne sounds more German than Resemyne
 
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I think there will be at most 4 more chapters. Should I wait for them or should I jump to part 3?
 
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...I kinda want to see Myne annoy Ferdi do something productive with a Newtype flash now :haa:

Gonna have to reread the last couple chapters together to see how well they flow. On first blush seems to be a pretty strong denouement, although the art seems pretty dramatic for a bunch of sitting exposition :lul:
 
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I think there will be at most 4 more chapters. Should I wait for them or should I jump to part 3?
Looks like i was the odd one out, i was reading them all at once after the anime (you would obviously have to spoil with the events of the past chapters though).
But i ended reading the LN (currently at Part 5 vol 4).
 
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They didn't include the part where she explains Deliah fears the orphanage and hates it, this it would be a fitting punishment.

I’ve read the whole LN and its appendix, and this part kinda has the weakest reasoning in the entire novel in my opinion.

Like, yes, he acquired a single individual with high noble’s mana, a whole new industry, and otherworldly knowledge, but he would need to sacrifice his mother’s entire faction which holds is entire duchy together, I’m not sure it’s a sound decision if I were him.

It is Sylvester we are talking about, he never was the smartest person. From his perspective:

He felt he should never have been the archduke and that Fernand should have been. Therefore a lot of times he just follows Fernand's plan. And Fernand hates his mother and would obviously include her downfall in his plan.

He likely naively felt the prosecuted faction would accept him after his sacrifice and that the old faction have no choice but to follow him.

The mother also was harsh on both Fernand and his wife. She also treated Sylvester a lot like a puppet. So he also had emotional reasons to distance her

Also, his mother's faction doesn't hold the dutchy together. His mother's faction is the minority. From his personal family perspective it was a bad move, but from the dutchy perspective it was a good move. Because the minority prosecuting the majority is a ticking bomb.
 
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There's actually a reason why red is the color of leaders in various sentai shows or other shounen things, it's a Japanese thing too!

Though, heh, knowing what I know about the future of this series...
I know about red being a leadership/power association colour, it's not that strange. In case of warhammer 40k though... long story short, orks there are basically a race of stupid creatures that bend reality by "believing in something strongly enough". If they believe that painting a vehicle red makes it faster - it will.

It's not just an "association" or "symbolism", it's literally reality-bending sorcery. They even have super advanced technology that is absurd on the level of "put a lid on that trash can, and now you have a spaceship", and it still works as they intended :D
Their power also become more potent the more orks present. So... if something doesn't work - it just means that there is not enough orks in vicinity that believes that it SHOULD work.
Anyway... red makes you faster - confirmed :D
 
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Finally that fatass is done for! And Delia received proper punishment, which I'm sure she'll be thankful for as she raises Dirk.

BUT HEALL YEAH, EXECUTION!!!
 
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Oh, oh, coming next/soon should be the big

onion ninja attack and Myne's overboard prayer!

Spoiled just in case for the non-anime and novel readers.
 
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Like, if it were other nobles I’d have no doubt they’d pull the move without a second thought, but it’s Sylvester.

He’s characterized by his doting mother, begrudging sister, and he only became motivated to be a better person just to woo his crush. We know he’s a decent person, and he knows when to act as a proper aub when needed. And likely because of the last one that made him do it. It doesn’t seem like his wife nudged him on this matter either.

Still, I just find it hard for me to believe that he had it in him. That Sylvester the Aub would overcome Sylvester the person and do it.

I'm not sure how this isn't characteristic of Sylvester the person, this is the same guy who married Florencia despite how antagonistic his mother was of her and the person who refused to take a second wife despite everyone telling him to do it, just because he loves her that much. As an Aub it was the right thing to do and on a personal level it was as well due to how much the people he cares about suffered under Veronica. Of course, he's not happy that he had to lock up his own mother but he's independent and intelligent enough to know it's what had to be done.
 
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The multiple adoptions finally make sense. It was never clear to me before how Karstedt's lineage made Myne a suitable candidate for the Duke's daughter.
 
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I know about red being a leadership/power association colour, it's not that strange. In case of warhammer 40k though... long story short, orks there are basically a race of stupid creatures that bend reality by "believing in something strongly enough". If they believe that painting a vehicle red makes it faster - it will.

It's not just an "association" or "symbolism", it's literally reality-bending sorcery. They even have super advanced technology that is absurd on the level of "put a lid on that trash can, and now you have a spaceship", and it still works as they intended :D
Their power also become more potent the more orks present. So... if something doesn't work - it just means that there is not enough orks in vicinity that believes that it SHOULD work.
Anyway... red makes you faster - confirmed :D
Unfortunately that "belief makes it happen" part of orks has kinda been phased out the last several years, and really only lives on in old memes.

Though I will always make any ork I get have some purple on them anyways!
 

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